AZ - Gabriel Johnson, 8 months, 26 Dec 2009 - last seen in Texas - #16

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  • #541
If this is in fact true, then I bet the carseat (the newer/nicer seat) picture was the last picture taken of Gabriel.

Of course, this is purely my speculation/opinion.

We found those pictures yesterday with "H" in one of them, so I think they were from when Gabriel stayed with the Smith's last month. I must have seen the story where they said they were the last pictures of him, but it was probably the last pictures of him in AZ.
 
  • #542
I just wanted to say thanks to all of you for the links to the vigil. I feel so bad for Logan.
I also wanted to say from the post from last night about someone feeling bad for TS, not one part of me has any sympathy for that person. Even at the end of that long post of hers on FB, she managed to make it all about her and how hard she worked for her business.
I only feel bad for three people in all of this, Gabriel, Logan and H.
 
  • #543
I don't recall seeing a highchair with shoulder straps either but I'm no expert.
The top picture there are no straps. they could just not have Gabe strapped in. But I was thinking this might very well be a matching set.

It might be one of those detachable car seats and they just fed him in it. I have done that before.
 
  • #544
We found those pictures yesterday with "H" in one of them, so I think they were from when Gabriel stayed with the Smith's last month. I must have seen the story where they said they were the last pictures of him, but it was probably the last pictures of him in AZ.

Thanks for the update on the carseat. Darn it all anyways, here goes another day that my feelings about Gabriel are flip flopping
 
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Oh my. On the video on the 2nd link, near the end you can see how bad Logan's hand is shaking, holding that little teddy bear. My heart just broke all over again. (I have no sound and some video's won't play at work, so I have no idea what was said).
 
  • #546
Oh my. On the video on the 2nd link, near the end you can see how bad Logan's hand is shaking, holding that little teddy bear. My heart just broke all over again. (I have no sound and some video's won't play at work, so I have no idea what was said).

That part just killed me. I wonder if staying away from EJ and not commenting much is what LE is hoping will help EJ cool off, and with a little time she may even feel bad for him and say more. Just hoping. We need hope! LE has processed the GPS, and now the FBI are too, so I hope they are finding something there. And they sure had better pulled the hardrives from the hotel and library!
 
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The pictures are a high chair, I promise! The straps are removable, and my kids were always uncomfortable in them, so they usually just laid right behind their backs. The straps in the first picture are NOT carseat safe straps! Carseats have seatbelt quality belts. It is a highchair...if only I could find the exact one online.
 
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I'm about to vent a little bit, so forgive me.

This morning, I'm angry. I'm angry that Elizabeth took Gabriel away from his father. I'm angry that the Smith's say they love Gabriel and yet they tried to manipulate Logan into signing "adoption" papers. How is trying to take him away from his father doing what is best for Gabriel? How is that loving him? And what would they have said one day when Gabriel was older and wanted to know about his birth parents? Yes, your father wanted you, but we tricked him into giving you up because we felt we wanted you more? I mean, seriously. I'm angry that the Smith's refuse to take down the "daddy" caption on that picture of JS, HS, and Gabriel from Facebook. They have NO empathy or sympathy for what Gabriel's family is feeling right now.

I'm angry that if someone has Gabriel right now, they are telling themselves that they are doing the right thing by not coming forward. Telling themselves that Gabriel is better off with them, that it will all blow over and people will stop looking for him. That they love him more than anyone. But it's all lies. They aren't even thinking about Gabriel's best interest, or that he deserves and NEEDS to be with his blood family. Those people that sat in the dark with candle's lit last night, gathered in the name of love and hope, to pray that Gabriel is safe and healthy, and happy first and foremost, but only SECONDLY that he would come home where he belongs. These people deserve to see this baby take his first step, speak his first sentence, pop his first tooth, go to his first day at school.

I'm angry because I know that my own son, who is only 2 days older than Gabe, would be scared, confused, sad, and missing his parents were he with strangers. I'm angry because there is NO JUSTIFICATION for these people to think that they have any right to keep this baby boy. At this point, I don't even care if it's a couple who badly wants children, and can't have them. I honestly feel that they don't deserve children, if they can't put a child's needs before their own, if they can't put Gabriel's needs before their own. At this point, I feel that there is no difference between these people and a person who snatches a child right off the street. It's wrong, period.

IF SOMEONE OUT THERE HAS BABY GABRIEL, LOVE HIM ENOUGH TO LET HIM GO HOME TO HIS DADDY. STOP HURTING THE PEOPLE THAT LOVE GABRIEL, THE PEOPLE THAT GABRIEL LOVES.

I'm angry because Elizabeth might really have done something horrible to her own child. I'm angry that she's sitting in a jail cell with her mouth shut, and police are having to investigate 2 completely different stories that she gave about what happened to him. And all the while, he is either with people who obviously don't care enough about him to send him home to his daddy, where he belongs, where he would be happy and loved and safe, OR he is god knows where, waiting to be found so that he can finally rest in peace.

OPEN YOUR MOUTH AND TELL THE TRUTH ELIZABETH, you selfish, heartless person.
:furious::furious::furious:

OK, sorry for that, I think I'm okay now.

ETA: I don't talk about this much, but I am the victim of a parental abduction when I was 5 years old. My father took my brother and I for 7 months. He had no job, no money and no way to care for us, he joined a singles group and lived off of 4 different women in that 7 months. They would realize he was a 🤬🤬🤬 and kick him out, he would move in with another one. He spent almost zero time with us. He didn't take us because he loved us, or thought it was best for us. He took us to hurt my mom, to make HIMSELF feel better. My mom missed seeing me start school, she missed my 6th birthday, she missed a lot in 7 months. My dad chose not to be in my life for years after he brought us home. I've recently been trying to work on a relationship with him for my son's sake. I'm only posting this to give insight as to how Gabriel might feel when he gets older if he is with some couple somewhere.
 
  • #551
I'm not looking at the photo's right now, but IIRC, I've seen a picture of Gabe in a car seat with the monkey harness buddies (I have the same one's for my son so these always stood out to me), Gabe looks a little younger to me. But I'll have to check that out again later. Right now I gotta get my own little man ready to go the babysitter.

ETA: I meant to say I think that EJ and Logan had that carseat with the harness buddies. I agree she wouldn't care much about his comfort, but Logan did. And the carseat and/or harness buddies could have been a shower gift.

If you look it appears that the photo was taken while Gabe was in Tammi's "care" it is one of the photos on her "fan page".

I would also just like to add that the LACK of harness buddies on a car seat does not necessarily mean EJ didn't care about his comfort. My THIRD child is almost 8 months old and I have NEVER used harness covers, nor did I ever use a "head support" (I did use two rolled up rec. blankets to keep their heads from flopping to the sides) it is a safety issue NOT a lack of care issue!
 
  • #552
Hey! I have been MIA for awhile, killer bladder infection, sore throat, and abscessed tooth, and too top that off, I am thinking today will be the day I quite smoking! enough about me.

I have no idea how much I have missed, is there a way for me too get a quick rundown on any new stuff that has come out? I am going to look backwards now for the highchair I see mentioned. Obviously he has not been found. and that makes me so angry!! I am still praying for you Gabriel!!
 
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If you look it appears that the photo was taken while Gabe was in Tammi's "care" it is one of the photos on her "fan page".

I would also just like to add that the LACK of harness buddies on a car seat does not necessarily mean EJ didn't care about his comfort. My THIRD child is almost 8 months old and I have NEVER used harness covers, nor did I ever use a "head support" (I did use two rolled up rec. blankets to keep their heads from flopping to the sides) it is a safety issue NOT a lack of care issue!

No, I wasn't saying that the lack of harness buddies would mean EJ didn't care about his comfort. My statement was in response to someone else saying they didn't think she cared enough to go to the trouble of putting them on. I actually took my son's off after about 4 or 5 months because they can be a hassle. LOL.
 
  • #554
Do we have any San Antonio locals this morning?
We need locals to put up fliers. Any volunteers would be greatly appreciated.
ETA: If we can get some San Antonio volunteers, I am willing to try calling Kinko's and other print shops in SA to ask for donated fliers for people to pick up.

Also, if you aren't local, we need fliers up EVERYWHERE that we can get them. If you can, please print fliers up and get them to local businesses, baby stores, malls, post offices, Walmarts, hospitals, parks, etc. Anywhere you can get them up. We need this baby boy's face and story plastered far and wide.
 
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http://ktar.com/?nid=6&sid=1256291

Vigil for Baby Gabriel as leads dwindleby Colton Shone/KTAR and ABC News (January 25th, 2010 @ 7:03am)

SCOTTSDALE, Ariz. -- One month after 8-month-old Gabriel Johnson vanished, dozens of people gathered at a candlelight vigil in Scottsdale to pray that the child will be found.

Logan McQueary, the boy's father, said Sunday night's vigil did not mean the family is giving up on searching for Gabriel.

"We're not giving up at all," McQueary said, while Gabriel's great-grandmother, Dot Woodard, chimed in, "Not for a minute are we giving up."

Police say Gabriel's mother, Elizabeth Johnson, took the boy and left Arizona in December to avoid a custody hearing. They say the child was last seen with Johnson at a motel near San Antonio, Texas, on Dec. 26. Johnson was arrested in Florida several days later and has been returned to Phoenix, where she faces charges of child abuse, kidnapping and custodial interference.

Police say Johnson -- who initially gave conflicting accounts of what happened to Gabriel -- no longer is talking with them.

McQueary said he has not spoken with Johnson, but he wants her to tell the truth. He said no new information has come for days and tips about the baby's whereabouts have declined as time passes.

"I hope he comes back soon... I love him. I want him back more than anything else," McQueary said.

McQueary said Johnson told him at one time that she had killed Gabriel and put his body in a dumpster.

"I think she might be capable of it, but I don't want to believe that she did," he said.

Johnson later said she gave the baby to a Texas couple who were strangers to her.

Meanwhile, former FBI special agent and ABC News consultant Brad Garrett said police need to keep trying to talk with Johnson "because that's going to be the key. It's going to give you more information even if she doesn't tell the truth... You have to basically convince her it's in maybe her best interests and the child's best interests to talk to you."

Garrett said police should retrace their steps.

"You may have to go back to the hotel again, pull the records of people that were staying at the hotel. Supposedly other people saw her in San Antonio with Gabriel. All of those people need to be found and interviewed."

Garrett said police also need to look at cellphones and other communications by Johnson, as well as track her car.
 
  • #556
Do we have any San Antonio locals this morning?
We need locals to put up fliers. Any volunteers would be greatly appreciated.
ETA: If we can get some San Antonio volunteers, I am willing to try calling Kinko's and other print shops in SA to ask for donated fliers for people to pick up.

Also, if you aren't local, we need fliers up EVERYWHERE that we can get them. If you can, please print fliers up and get them to local businesses, baby stores, malls, post offices, Walmarts, hospitals, parks, etc. Anywhere you can get them up. We need this baby boy's face and story plastered far and wide.

I am a Local, does anyone know if Logan has contacted the Heidi search center here in SA?? They put out posters for missing children.
 
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I am a Local, does anyone know if Logan has contacted the Heidi search center here in SA?? They put out posters for missing children.

Perfect!

Thank you so much, Ives.
 
  • #560
Can you tell it's been a wile since I've ad one in a high chair? lol
I concede, it's a high chair.:crazy:

Shoot! Thought we had something going there.:banghead:
See, it's not such a bad thing having us younguns around. :dance:
 
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