AZ - Gabriel Johnson, 8 months, 26 Dec 2009 - last seen in Texas - #16

[lp34]

I will do it anywhere people are willing to post them. Just send me the kinko's location and 300 will be waiting.

Wonderful!!!
Are you looking to do this only in San Antonio, or for anywhere people want to put up flyer's? Just want to make sure because right now, we only have two locals that have offered to help that I know of. We are doing what we can to round up more.
I will be putting up flyers in my local (Dallas area) but I don't get around much and my area will be very small, so I will get my own fliers printed for that.

 

[Gin]

Am I allowed? I adore the integrity of Websleuths and would never do anything to "taint" it.

Surely law enforcement has been monitoring it as well, so what I say here should be verifiable?

One love, if it were me, and I wasn't sure, I'd ask a moderator...or the wise BeanE. I don't want to get you in trouble..or me. I'm just really curious to know what's going on in TS's head. It seems to me that is such an indicator of where this case is going. But, what do I know?

 

[Chemeria]

where is the 'three pictures' I saw two of the two different car seats but where is the one of the High chair? and why would she be taking so many pictures?

...also I saw something on facebook on one of the many pages TS has up and it said something about EJ being on a surragacy fourm does anyone have any further information about that?

 

[Kimster]

Am I allowed? I adore the integrity of Websleuths and would never do anything to "taint" it.

Surely law enforcement has been monitoring it as well, so what I say here should be verifiable?

Yes, it must be verifiable. A good gauge is whether or not your link works without seeing ******** and don't quote blogs. :blowkiss:

 

[Prof]

what carseat find?

Let me see if I can give a run down of this discussion on this thread, but you can go to "search this thread" and type "carseat" to pull up all posts in this particular thread that mention car seat

This my impression of what I saw happen

Someone [ame="http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4721868#post4721868"]AZ-Gabriel Johnson, 8 months, MSG 26 Dec 09 thread #16 - Page 7 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]
posted a link to a slide show/video made on youtube, very nice video, but a video with some obvious errors
One of the errors was "Jack and Terri"
Anyway the video included a caption (at about 2:28 in the video) that a pic of Gabriel in a carseat looking sad was "the last known picture taken of Gabriel"

That would contradict many reports about the six pictures found on EJ's digital camera in FL, none of which included a car seat

A poster here may have thought it might be information that was leaked somehow, and it could be a pic of Gabriel taken in San Antonio and thought the car seat looked different from other pics, thought it might be a clue to his whereabouts

IMO if one believes the video correct, this is an interesting thing to sleuth

So there was some interesting discussion with picture comparisons of carseats and high chairs and such, (I think some of the posts have been deleted by the original posters)

But in the end some posters noted that similar pics can be found on TS FB, and that there were only 6 pictures on the camera in San Antonio


I don't know if there was a "find," but if there was I am not sure what it means

I hope this summary makes sense :crazy:

 

[OneLove]

I'm looking at TPS's "Fan" page right now, and everything appears to still be there....

Ahh...I see. Must have been a glitch of some sort? Lol, I think maybe an earthquake epicentered at the Smith household?

 

[momtective]

(Got permission from Hoppyfrog to post this. Thank you so much, 2cwazeedawgs for finding it!)

http://twitter.com/ChrisCuomo

Chris is an anchor at ABC news. To paraphrase, he said that LE can place Gabe with TPS and JS after EJ's text message that she had killed him!

:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

What wonderful news to come home to!
I spent the late morning and this afternoon putting up fliers around my area. It's a small town, about 12,000 people but I must now say, "If Gabriel is in this area with a prospective adoptive family, he is housebound." He will not be able to enter any establishment here without seeing his own picture.
I have a renewed hope in so many things today. One that Gabriel is going to be found and returned to Logan, two Tammi Smith is going to jail and three, the heart of small town America is alive and well. I went through 50 fliers in no time and as I was just getting started I noticed a 7UP distributor (young kid about Logan's age) filling up his cute little 7UP pick-up. I handed him a flyer and asked if he'd help me out by showing it on his route. He said; "I'll do better than that, I'll take it back to the office and make copies and post them or hand them out along my route, I cover 7 Counties." I'm was just blown away...I wanted to cry. I also came up on some long-haul truckers and gave them some fliers, they too told me they were going to make copies and distribute them along their route.
If Gabriel is not found by tomorrow I will head to neighboring towns and cover them with Gabriel's beautiful face as well and on Thursday I will start in Shreveport.

And in light of this most recent revelation, I just have to ask...has anyone really looked under TammiFays bed?

 

[kissdegirl]

where is the 'three pictures' I saw two of the two different car seats but where is the one of the High chair? and why would she be taking so many pictures?

...also I saw something on facebook on one of the many pages TS has up and it said something about EJ being on a surragacy fourm does anyone have any further information about that?

Post 519
[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4729684&postcount=691"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - AZ-Gabriel Johnson, 8 months, MSG 26 Dec 09 thread #16[/ame]

 

[BeanE]

From MissingGabe:

Logan has always been on Gabe's birth certificate. At the hearing, the judge told Eliz she would have to pay for the paternity tests. Elizabeth said no. The judge asked her if that meant she was sure Logan is Gabe's father, and Elizabeth said yes.

 

[debloree]

I apologize for some of my posts being short and not able to type long explanations due to disabilities of my arms, shoulders and hands. Thanks for understanding and thanks to those who can type and explain things more clearly than I can.

 

[b4e]

I noticed a 7UP distributor (young kid about Logan's age) filling up his cute little 7UP pick-up. I handed him a flyer and asked if he's help me out by showing it on his route. He said; "I'll do better than that, I'll take it back to the office and make copies and post them or hand them out along my route, I cover 7 Counties." I'm was just blown away...I wanted to cry. I also came up on some long-haul truckers and gave them some fliers, they too told me they were going to make copies and distribute them along their route.

(respectfully snipped by me)

Brings a happy tear of hope to my eye. Thank you, Momtective.

 

[kissdegirl]

Yeah, I was the first poster. Out of my own curiosity, I asked for help with the photos. I had the one of Gabe looking sad in the carseat, and wanted the other one where he looked happy, because I remember thinking they were different carseats. Also, I thought (because of misinformation) that they were the last ones taken of him (they may have been, but that was before the EJ pictures in SA). Anyway, we compared them, they are different carseats, but taken near the same time because Gabriel is wearing the same outfit, has red blotches on his face, his hair is the same, and has the same milk on his chin. So we were wondering why the 2 carseats. "H" is also in the original, uncropped sad looking pic. It was exciting, thinking they "may" have been taken in SA, but we think they were taken in the Smith's home back before EJ ran with Gabriel. WE think anyway.

ETA: FWIW, I didn't delete any of my embarassing posts...I was excited and hopeful.

Let me see if I can give a run down of this discussion on this thread, but you can go to "search this thread" and type "carseat" to pull up all posts in this particular thread that mention car seat

This my impression of what I saw happen

Someone AZ-Gabriel Johnson, 8 months, MSG 26 Dec 09 thread #16 - Page 7 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community
posted a link to a slide show/video made on youtube, very nice video, but a video with some obvious errors
One of the errors was "Jack and Terri"
Anyway the video included a caption (at about 2:28 in the video) that a pic of Gabriel in a carseat looking sad was "the last known picture taken of Gabriel"

That would contradict many reports about the six pictures found on EJ's digital camera in FL, none of which included a car seat

A poster here may have thought it might be information that was leaked somehow, and it could be a pic of Gabriel taken in San Antonio and thought the car seat looked different from other pics, thought it might be a clue to his whereabouts

IMO if one believes the video correct, this is an interesting thing to sleuth

So there was some interesting discussion with picture comparisons of carseats and high chairs and such, (I think some of the posts have been deleted by the original posters)

But in the end some posters noted that similar pics can be found on TS FB, and that there were only 6 pictures on the camera in San Antonio


I don't know if there was a "find," but if there was I am not sure what it means

I hope this summary makes sense :crazy:

 

[not_my_kids]

Seeing as how Gabe could be anywhere, I'll order some on my own and get them posted in general locations around here. The downside to that is that I don't get paid for 2 weeks and hopefully, he will be home by then, making it a moot point.

 

[Amster]

Why would the reporter twitter such a thing if it's not true?? That's crazy! If it is true, why would LE leak that info? I want so badly to believe what he says.....that would mean that Gabriel is still alive.

 

[OneLove]

From MissingGabe:

Logan has always been on Gabe's birth certificate. At the hearing, the judge told Eliz she would have to pay for the paternity tests. Elizabeth said no. The judge asked her if that meant she was sure Logan is Gabe's father, and Elizabeth said yes.

Soooo.... :furious: when is it that TammiFay was still saying in the media that the father might be Logan's good friend? What kind of person stirs up that kind of false drama knowing it is not true? And what kind of person would do that to LOGAN and his friends? :furious::furious::furious:

 

[not_my_kids]

There were no cameras allowed in her hearing this morning, so did he twitter that during court? It looks like he was making court updates. MOO.

It would be great if that was one of the things that came out in court, and if that is one of the indications they have had all along that he is alive.

 

[BeanE]

Why would the reporter twitter such a thing if it's not true?? That's crazy! If it is true, why would LE leak that info? I want so badly to believe what he says.....that would mean that Gabriel is still alive.

It doesn't make sense to me that a reporter would simply tweet that, if he meant it as written, instead of the station having a BIG HUGE exclusive breaking news bombshell and get the ratings for it. It does not compute.

 

[NewMommy09]

:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

What wonderful news to come home to!
I spent the late morning and this afternoon putting up fliers around my area. It's a small town, about 12,000 people but I must now say, "If Gabriel is in this area with a prospective adoptive family, he is housebound." He will not be able to enter any establishment here without seeing his own picture.
I have a renewed hope in so many things today. One that Gabriel is going to be found and returned to Logan, two Tammi Smith is going to jail and three, the heart of small town America is alive and well. I went through 50 fliers in no time and as I was just getting started I noticed a 7UP distributor (young kid about Logan's age) filling up his cute little 7UP pick-up. I handed him a flyer and asked if he'd help me out by showing it on his route. He said; "I'll do better than that, I'll take it back to the office and make copies and post them or hand them out along my route, I cover 7 Counties." I'm was just blown away...I wanted to cry. I also came up on some long-haul truckers and gave them some fliers, they too told me they were going to make copies and distribute them along their route.
If Gabriel is not found by tomorrow I will head to neighboring towns and cover them with Gabriel's beautiful face as well and on Thursday I will start in Shreveport.

And in light of this most recent revelation, I just have to ask...has anyone really looked under TammiFays bed?

:woohoo:
momtective you are my hero!!!

Your post got me thinking, what can we do to get these fliers to trucking companies?

 

[OneLove]

Seeing as how Gabe could be anywhere, I'll order some on my own and get them posted in general locations around here. The downside to that is that I don't get paid for 2 weeks and hopefully, he will be home by then, making it a moot point.

Personally, I would save the money for another week and if Gabe isn't home by then, I would put it toward a "bounty" fund.

If the ppl who have Gabe now are connected with the Smiths, their twisted self-righteousness about how they're doing this for Gabe's best interests will keep them or ppl close to them from turning him in.

But I bet the combination of significant money for second, third, and fourth tier accomplices, along with the threat of SERIOUS criminal charges would pull Gabe out of his rabbit hole.

 

[Gin]

It doesn't make sense to me that a reporter would simply tweet that, if he meant it as written, instead of the station having a BIG HUGE exclusive breaking news bombshell and get the ratings for it. It does not compute.

I agree. Might it have been the desire of LE to let this out in order to rapidly panic TS? I just can't see her wanting to wear the latest in prison fashion for years to come. Given the options, I think she'd talk a blue streak to avoid as many consequences as possible.
Is this to put pressure on her, today?