AZ - Gabriel Johnson, 8 months, 26 Dec 2009 - last seen in Texas - #17

[danisisa]

SHe contradicts herself in the text. Take note to you will always wonder what happend to him....But then says what she said.....

Gabriel got handed off to someone. That is the only way LM could wonder.

I am praying praying praying whoever has G will bring him home....

 

[Ives]

That is just horrendous :-( Can't even imagine poor Logan's horror when he first saw that :-(

You know what? It really doesn't even look like it was written by EJ... in comparison to her craigslist postings at least.....this is punctuated and capitalized. Weird.

well, if it was just seen by news, then they would right it down. and the habits of a journalist, would be correct spelling, punctuation, capitalization. MOO

 

[Blue Ridge]

well, if it was just seen by news, then they would right it down. and the habits of a journalist, would be correct spelling, punctuation, capitalization. MOO

Good point... that must be what happened.

 

[kissdegirl]

I think she snapped because she desperately did not want to be a mother. She was trapped, she had to find Gabriel a family, and she was off her meds with possible PPD/bipolar/anger issues. It could have been cabin fever and teething that drove her to be so desperate. I think I am relatively sane, and there are days (usually solved by at least an hour to myself though, because I am sane) I want to be free again.

I want to personally make an effort not to speculate on anything LM has done, as I feel, personally, that he has been slandered enough by TS, and seriously that poor man is going through enough right now.

I wonder now, did she accuse Logan of cheating maby? Just thinking outloud. Whatever she is considering "lies" has to be big. true or not, they only have to be real in her mind, KWIM?? Cheating, is a big one, a child with someone else, makes it worse(these are just thoughts on what could be going through EJ's mind) what are some other big "lies?"

Never mind. I'm sure it does not matter. And it sure wont bring Gabe home. just trying to figure out why she "snapped"

 

[Prof]

This should go in "inconsistencies" thread....

There are at least 2 airport stories floating around. This is one of them....just Tammi, no Jack, at Logan in Boston. The other one is Indianapolis, and iirc, it;s Jack and Tammi meeting Elizabeth and Gabriel. Then there may be a 3rd version that is a hybrid of the 2.

Lots of us think they didn't meet until December and the reason they can't get this airport story straight is because they made it up to begin with.

Yeah, it did not help this story or their credibility when TS first "interviewed" EJ on the phone in Florida and EJ stated she gave Gabriel to a couple a at the park said TS something like -- and that's how we met you EJ at the whatchacallit -- airport, yeah that's right

Everytime JS and TS stall in their words, or start to say another word completely different before they correct themselves, you can be fairly sure that it will end up a key part of the story and most likely a lie aboutit

IMO

 

[vjlaw]

We do not know that she had her own cell, right?
Yes, they had the car information



Yes, as far as I can tell





Apparently not



I can see your tree --- it makes sense to bark there -there are big unidentified vermin up that tree

As far as I can tell from all of the convoluted stories flying around, TS was the only one to be in touch with EJ between the time she left AZ and the 26th
From what I can make out through all of the changing stories, TS tipped Logan on EJ's location and contact information
I do not know at what point EJ ditched her own phone and obtained another phone in San Antonio
I do not know if and why EJ would contact TS on the run when according to TS, EJ was worried enough to not even want to email her for fear of being traced
It is possible that EJ obtained a cell in SA that she thought was untraceable
None of TS' story about this makes sense to me
and where there is an omission ---

I cannot make it add up and there is something hinky about the whole phone contact story in SA

arrff, aarrff, aarrff. That's about all there is to say to most of these curiosities. If the cell was untraceable, it goes back to LE trying to find out who gave her the cell. That's LE bark, not mine. Just too many questions, no answers. <sigh>

 

[Ives]

I think she snapped because she desperately did not want to be a mother. She was trapped, she had to find Gabriel a family, and she was off her meds with possible PPD/bipolar/anger issues. It could have been cabin fever and teething that drove her to be so desperate. I think I am relatively sane, and there are days (usually solved by at least an hour to myself though, because I am sane) I want to be free again.

I want to personally make an effort not to speculate on anything LM has done, as I feel, personally, that he has been slandered enough by TS, and seriously that poor man is going through enough right now.

I'm not trying to say LM did anything, but by EJ being off meds and such, what was she thinking. she can accuse him all day long, if it's not true, the accusations are just that. but, that does not make it not real in EJ's mind.

If that was her text, then she was po'ed about something. and a week away did not calm her down.

 

[danisisa]

The question is still why San Antonio??? TS, JS, maybe South Padre Island.....TS plans in her comfort zone. EJ was doing what TS told her to do and even gave her a GPS...I still think jurisdiction change and it didn't work. So, another plan was put into place.

 

[mommavi1181]

SHe contradicts herself in the text. Take note to you will always wonder what happend to him....But then says what she said.....

Gabriel got handed off to someone. That is the only way LM could wonder.

I am praying praying praying whoever has G will bring him home....

ITA I really do think she handed him off. Why on earth would she say he will always wonder and then go on to say exactly what she did. Makes no sense. I really feel there is a lot going on behind the scenes that we do not know. I just hope Gabriel will be found soon and justice will be served to all involved.

 

[danisisa]

I also cannot see TS giving up on getting G. THe phone call sticks out my mind....EJ says what I am supposed to do go back there? THat is when plan B was in the works.

Another thing...EJ would of kept the $1500-$2500 with her if she sold G on the black market.....SHe only had a couple hundred left. It does not add up.

WHere was she going to in FL? She did not have that much money left. So, I doubt there is a flight she could of taken out of the country..Why not go to Mexico and then fly out from there...MAkes no sense.

 

[danisisa]

EJ had to of had a contact in FL.

 

[SallyManda]

I also cannot see TS giving up on getting G. THe phone call sticks out my mind....EJ says what I am supposed to do go back there? THat is when plan B was in the works.

Another thing...EJ would of kept the $1500-$2500 with her if she sold G on the black market.....SHe only had a couple hundred left. It does not add up.

WHere was she going to in FL? She did not have that much money left. So, I doubt there is a flight she could of taken out of the country..Why not go to Mexico and then fly out from there...MAkes no sense.

Does anyone know if they counted the value of the clothes she bought in FL? I dont know what she bought, but designer clothes are very pricey.....

 

[danisisa]

ONe more thing, and then I will Stop. If it was me and I was trying to adopt, and the mother took off with the child, and knowing the mother did not want the child...I would be on the 1st plane to find her and get that child.. After that phone call, I would of done this or turned her in to LE. TS and JS know where he is.

 

[~PrinceSSa~]

ONe more thing, and then I will Stop. If it was me and I was trying to adopt, and the mother took off with the child, and knowing the mother did not want the child...I would be on the 1st plane to find her and get that child.. After that phone call, I would of done this or turned her in to LE. TS and JS know where he is.

And I think thats exactly what the Smith's did.

:croc:

 

[DaneBramage]

That is beyond HORRID & CRUEL!

It was indeed the most chilling thing I have read. Talk about cold and creepy.

 

[DaneBramage]

Well, it's 2:25 am CST, NG is babbling histrionically on the tube. Still no Gabriel. Maybe the psychics misspoke, maybe they really meant February 30...

 

[2goldfish]

That is just horrendous :-( Can't even imagine poor Logan's horror when he first saw that :-(

You know what? It really doesn't even look like it was written by EJ... in comparison to her craigslist postings at least.....this is punctuated and capitalized. Weird.

what phone was she using to text? my smartphone autocorrects beautifully, punctuation and all. you would never know it came from me based on how I type on a keyboard :biglaugh:

 

[momtective]

I'm wondering if LE has retrieved the myspace message Tammi sent to EJ...left on Dec 31 2009 10:36 AM the one where she said "Read my message titled Gabriel" Anyone know if LE can get that info from myspace?" That message alone might be key evidence of Tammi's involvement.

 

[momtective]

That is just horrendous :-( Can't even imagine poor Logan's horror when he first saw that :-(

You know what? It really doesn't even look like it was written by EJ... in comparison to her craigslist postings at least.....this is punctuated and capitalized. Weird.

I'm wondering if it was even EJ that sent that text. It sounds so Tammi-ish. You don't need a cell phone to send a text message...yahoo messenger works just fine...maybe Tammi had access to EJ's messenger account. You can also send a text from a computer by accessing your account through your service carrier. Texts sent from messenger or online from your carrier account will still show as being sent from your phone.

 

[dini1976]

I'm wondering if it was even EJ that sent that text. It sounds so Tammi-ish. You don't need a cell phone to send a text message...yahoo messenger works just fine...maybe Tammi had access to EJ's messenger account. You can also send a text from a computer by accessing your account through your service carrier. Texts sent from messenger or online from your carrier account will still show as being sent from your phone.

If it was Tammi, wouldn't EJ have been confused by Logan asking her what happened? Did Logan text her back or call? OR.. Both EJ and TS knew what the other was up too!