AZ - Gabriel Johnson, 8 months, 26 Dec 2009 - last seen in Texas - #17

[~PrinceSSa~]

I'm here. Got lost just a few times between here and the subforum, fb and my kitchen!
Long day trying to keep track of all the garbage on fb. But I have to say Tammi is a master in deleting promptly and switfly all the posts she dislikes. (or are those posts just too close to the truth and too much to handle??)

When the posting stops, maybe we can fb her in jail.
(insert sarcastic eyerolling smiley)

 

[BeanE]

I just posted a new message from Gabriel's family here:

[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4741166"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Tips or Suggestions for Logan's trip[/ame]

Just want to be sure everyone sees it.

Thank you!

 

[BeanE]

Still here, and I keep checking in to see if there's any new news. I wish there was more that I could do besides pray

Mel

Praying is great

:blowkiss:

 

[BeanE]

Also, I forgot to add the photographers are a bit on the racy side. I will not post their links, but I will submit them as tips.

More tips for Gabe!

Thank you, Litlred.

WSers rock!!!

:blowkiss:

 

[NDRaised]

Thanks everyone for the warm welcome!!!
So, thought I would give this sleuthing stuff a try. I am going back in time to the photos of Gabriel that were taken in San Antonio....the ones where he appears to be drinking medicine. I know this has caused alot of alarm about his safety but when I was looking at the pics tonight I think I noticed something.
The picture of Gabriel on the bed wearing the reindeer sleeper and the white pacifier in his mouth (I"ll call it picture 1): He appears to have a fresh scratch on the side of his right nostril, but none others on his face.
The picture of him on the bed in the puppy sleeper drinking "medicine" (picture 2): He has the same scratch on his right nostril but looks like it is fading (healing).
Picture of him on floor with cap on and tylenol bottle in hand (picture 3): You can still see the scratch on his right nostril but it is very faint, and he also now has a scratch between his eyes.
Picture of him in blue striped sleeper (pjs) on the bed (pic 4): he has the scratch between his eyes but can't see the one on his nostril anymore.

This tells me that the pictures are on order of when they were taken by how I numbered them 1 through 4...the scratches telling me that. If that is the case then he did not overdose or anything after drinking the medicine in picture 2 since it more than likely will take a day or two for scratches to fade or disappear.
I looked for a magnifying glass to get a better look at the pics but can't find one, and I don't know how to make the pics larger to get a better look, so my theory is based on how I see the pics.
Don't know if this makes sense to you, but if it is correct it would show that there may be nothing too significant about Gabes well-being by looking at the pics, and gives us more hope for his safe return!

 

[CathyinTexas]

With all this info on Tammis family ALL around the area where EJ just happend to go????? It just seals the deal for me that they are behind this. What other reason would EJ flee to SA? Why not California,Utah,Arkansas etc... She could have gone anywhere but she chose SA and to stay a week?
:waitasec:

It is very credible and may explain why Tammi is trying to deflect any of this from herself, because her family may be involved. But if they are/were, did they get scared and give the baby to strangers, or get him out of the country?

 

[A_Closer_Look]

Thanks everyone for the warm welcome!!!
So, thought I would give this sleuthing stuff a try. I am going back in time to the photos of Gabriel that were taken in San Antonio....the ones where he appears to be drinking medicine. I know this has caused alot of alarm about his safety but when I was looking at the pics tonight I think I noticed something.
The picture of Gabriel on the bed wearing the reindeer sleeper and the white pacifier in his mouth (I"ll call it picture 1): He appears to have a fresh scratch on the side of his right nostril, but none others on his face.
The picture of him on the bed in the puppy sleeper drinking "medicine" (picture 2): He has the same scratch on his right nostril but looks like it is fading (healing).
Picture of him on floor with cap on and tylenol bottle in hand (picture 3): You can still see the scratch on his right nostril but it is very faint, and he also now has a scratch between his eyes.
Picture of him in blue striped sleeper (pjs) on the bed (pic 4): he has the scratch between his eyes but can't see the one on his nostril anymore.

This tells me that the pictures are on order of when they were taken by how I numbered them 1 through 4...the scratches telling me that. If that is the case then he did not overdose or anything after drinking the medicine in picture 2 since it more than likely will take a day or two for scratches to fade or disappear.
I looked for a magnifying glass to get a better look at the pics but can't find one, and I don't know how to make the pics larger to get a better look, so my theory is based on how I see the pics.
Don't know if this makes sense to you, but if it is correct it would show that there may be nothing too significant about Gabes well-being by looking at the pics, and gives us more hope for his safe return!

This is absolutely awesome! Great eye!
Bravo!
:clap:

ETA: I just blew them up and lightened them a bit, and you are 100% correct on the timeline of the photos in my opinion!

 

[CathyinTexas]

Welcome to WS NDRaised,
I'm so sorry for what Logan is going through...he seems like such a soft spoken sweet kid and my heart just breaks for him. Thank you so much for being here and for finding that Gabriel is a priority for so many of us. I for one will simply not be able to contain myself the day he is found and finally returned to Logan. I firmly believe he will be found alive and well.
(((hugs)))

When I read your post I pictured another baby that was found in shoe box or something. I don't remember his name, but I think it was a babysitter who hid him? Anybody remember that? So it does happen!

 

[cyberborg]

When I read your post I pictured another baby that was found in shoe box or something. I don't remember his name, but I think it was a babysitter who hid him? Anybody remember that? So it does happen!

Yes, correct! A wooden box under the bed. Found safe.

 

[DairyGirl]

When I read your post I pictured another baby that was found in shoe box or something. I don't remember his name, but I think it was a babysitter who hid him? Anybody remember that? So it does happen!

That was baby Shannon Dedrick. She was found in a box under the bed. The really scary thing is that person that had her had a step son that has been missing for something like 23 years who was under her care when he disappeared.

 

[Litlred]

Did the baby sitter watch Gabriel on Dec 23rd?

 

[Litlred]

Okay I found BeanE's timeline...

Wednesday, December 23, 2009

Elizabeth has a babysitter watch Gabriel at the hotel from 11:45am until 1:30pm.

Elizabeth is angry that the babysitter is late arriving.

Elizabeth is dressed in very tight low-cut jeans, a tight midriff blouse, and stilettos. Her clothing is inappropriate to the cool weather that day.

Elizabeth does not tell the babysitter where she was going.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/blog.php?b=617

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I'm still trying to figure out where Ms. EJ the fashion plate went that day. There is an ad in craigslist for models (open call every wednesday) but the time looks to be off. I will keep looking.

san antonio talent gigs classifieds - craigslistModel Open Call Every Wednesday 3 to 4 pm - (85 NE Loop 410 ste. # 318 SA, TX 78216). Semi-Pro Cheer/Dance Auditions - Lady Heat Rays - (San Antonio) img ...
sanantonio.craigslist.org › gigs - Cached - Similar

 

[A_Closer_Look]

Thanks everyone for the warm welcome!!!
So, thought I would give this sleuthing stuff a try. I am going back in time to the photos of Gabriel that were taken in San Antonio....the ones where he appears to be drinking medicine. I know this has caused alot of alarm about his safety but when I was looking at the pics tonight I think I noticed something.
The picture of Gabriel on the bed wearing the reindeer sleeper and the white pacifier in his mouth (I"ll call it picture 1): He appears to have a fresh scratch on the side of his right nostril, but none others on his face.
The picture of him on the bed in the puppy sleeper drinking "medicine" (picture 2): He has the same scratch on his right nostril but looks like it is fading (healing).
Picture of him on floor with cap on and tylenol bottle in hand (picture 3): You can still see the scratch on his right nostril but it is very faint, and he also now has a scratch between his eyes.
Picture of him in blue striped sleeper (pjs) on the bed (pic 4): he has the scratch between his eyes but can't see the one on his nostril anymore.

This tells me that the pictures are on order of when they were taken by how I numbered them 1 through 4...the scratches telling me that. If that is the case then he did not overdose or anything after drinking the medicine in picture 2 since it more than likely will take a day or two for scratches to fade or disappear.
I looked for a magnifying glass to get a better look at the pics but can't find one, and I don't know how to make the pics larger to get a better look, so my theory is based on how I see the pics.
Don't know if this makes sense to you, but if it is correct it would show that there may be nothing too significant about Gabes well-being by looking at the pics, and gives us more hope for his safe return!

I wanted to post the shots that NDRaised is referring to in the above post, enlarged, cropped and with the contrast adjusted slightly to better be able to see the scratches as they are small. I know that pictures look different brightnesses and such, depending on each persons video cards and settings, so let me know if you can't see what is being referenced here and I will try to adjust again. These are in order as described by NDRaised in the above post.

 

[DaneBramage]

Look under Adult gigs from the time frame she was ther. Look at the "Executive" ad My hinky meter went bonkers when I read this one..

Okay I found BeanE's timeline...



http://www.websleuths.com/forums/blog.php?b=617

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I'm still trying to figure out where Ms. EJ the fashion plate went that day. There is an ad in craigslist for models (open call every wednesday) but the time looks to be off. I will keep looking.

san antonio talent gigs classifieds - craigslistModel Open Call Every Wednesday 3 to 4 pm - (85 NE Loop 410 ste. # 318 SA, TX 78216). Semi-Pro Cheer/Dance Auditions - Lady Heat Rays - (San Antonio) img ...
sanantonio.craigslist.org › gigs - Cached - Similar

 

[DaneBramage]

I hate to be a butt, butt couldn't the order of the first two pics and the second two be reversed? As in: 3,4,1,2 ?

I wanted to post the shots that NDRaised is referring to in the above post, enlarged, cropped and with the contrast adjusted slightly to better be able to see the scratches as they are small. I know that pictures look different brightnesses and such, depending on each persons video cards and settings, so let me know if you can't see what is being referenced here and I will try to adjust again. These are in order as described by NDRaised in the above post.

 

[not_my_kids]

I am a little too busy to do it right now, but would someone please make EJ her own thread in the subforum? So we can have a seperate place for photos of her, the articles about her early life and insights into her personality and such? Thank you to from the bottom of my heart...

 

[kissdegirl]

Child Advocate Claims Landfill Search Long Overdue

http://www.kpho.com/news/22360770/detail.html

Mark Palmer, the executive director of Jessica's Law Now, a child advocacy group, said the landfill is one of the first places investigators should have searched. "It should have been done right away, immediately," said Palmer.

Gabriel's mom, Elizabeth Johnson, took him from Arizona to San Antonio and did not return, police said. The boy's father, Logan McQueary said he got a text message saying she had killed him and put him in the trash. Elizabeth was seen leaving San Antonio on a bus to Florida by herself. Gabriel was nowhere in sight. Authorities arrested Elizabeth in Miami and returned her to Arizona to face charges of kidnapping and custodial interference.

"Once they did locate her, they should have gone back and started looking at not only the dumpsters and all of the areas that she was in, but also a radius that she covered and that would include landfills," said Palmer.

~snipped~

 

[DaneBramage]

Look at the Q and A thread. We were thinking the same thing!! You should be alarmed...

I am a little too busy to do it right now, but would someone please make EJ her own thread in the subforum? So we can have a seperate place for photos of her, the articles about her early life and insights into her personality and such? Thank you to from the bottom of my heart...

 

[not_my_kids]

Sheriff Joe Arpaio said Wednesday that Elizabeth Johnson's public persona is very different from her demeanor behind bars.
"She's been quiet, cooperative, not a problem in our jail. Maybe she's got a dual personality," said Arpaio.
http://www.kpho.com/news/22361624/detail.html

 

[A_Closer_Look]

I hate to be a butt, butt couldn't the order of the first two pics and the second two be reversed? As in: 3,4,1,2 ?

I don't think so, because #3 is the only one that shows both the nose and eye marks, so it becomes the defining shot for the rest.
In #1 there is the fresh nose scratch
In #2 there is the nose scratch only slightly healed
In #3 you have both, the nose scratch (almost gone) and the mark between his eyes.
In #4 you have the mark between the eyes, and the nose scratch is gone

so #3 having both marks would determine it's place in the time line