AZ - Gabriel Johnson, 8 months, 26 Dec 2009 - last seen in Texas - #18

[kappy50]

I've been saying from awhile back...I think this all has something to do with her bus ride.I just wished we knew the route, the stops...more of it....if TS was so anxious to help a stranger...hold him comfort him, why could she not board the bus, by herself while someone else is carrying Gabriel.....who would know what child belonged to whom...would be interesting to know if the bus company could tell anyone how many infants were on the bus...I've been told, if the infant/child can sit in someones lap, no ticket needs to be purchased....just crazy me! Maybe the bus line has done this, who knows....

 

[YellowSubmarine]

Just heard from Logan, he's leaving Wed am. We have a few more days, let's get as much info for him as possible!

 

[~Lisa~]

I don't understand why NG isn't all over this story.
I don't care what lies the Smiths told her... she could at least get Gabriel's pictures out there!




JMO

 

[captdj]

I've been saying from awhile back...I think this all has something to do with her bus ride.I just wished we knew the route, the stops...more of it....if TS was so anxious to help a stranger...hold him comfort him, why could she not board the bus, by herself while someone else is carrying Gabriel.....who would know what child belonged to whom...would be interesting to know if the bus company could tell anyone how many infants were on the bus...I've been told, if the infant/child can sit in someones lap, no ticket needs to be purchased....just crazy me! Maybe the bus line has done this, who knows....

I called the bus line to ask a question and the person said that buses left every day to Florida... trying to think of why she booked only 5 days.....not sure if this was covered....

Also I remember that the representative at Tornado said she waited inside and the video showed a white chair like that was the seat she used....

 

[kissdegirl]

http://www.kpho.com/news/22370484/detail.html

Gabriel Johnson Trust Account
facebookdel.icio.usbuzzdiggreddit›› Email›› PrintA Gabriel Johnson trust account has been set up.

People can stop in to any Bank of America branch and donate to:

The Gabriel Johnson Trust
Bank of America
Account #457015122018

Or donations can be mailed to:

The Gabriel Johnson Trust Bank of America
1030 Willow Creek Rd.
Prescott, AZ 86301

All of the money will go toward raising the reward and to help fund Logan McQueary's trip across the country.

 

[kissdegirl]

I hadn't heard this raw intervew with EJ before, so I'm sorry if it's been posted. It's a 10 minute phone interview.

http://www.kpho.com/video/22155911/index.html

 

[not_my_kids]

I hadn't heard this raw intervew with EJ before, so I'm sorry if it's been posted. It's a 10 minute phone interview.

http://www.kpho.com/video/22155911/index.html

Yup, the very first one. I transcribed that when it came out...there was a lot of weirdness in that interview and a lot of it still hasn't been explained.

 

[captdj]

OK my eyes are old but does this person look the same Is that Lenny?
His shirt even looks the same or similar

http://makorecovery.com/rob dick kara keene leonard padilla rex venator spyder.jpg

and this video at 2:34

http://www.kpho.com/video/22146968/index.html

 

[kissdegirl]

Yup, the very first one. I transcribed that when it came out...there was a lot of weirdness in that interview and a lot of it still hasn't been explained.

Thanks. I've read parts of it over and over again, but hearing it seems so much different. Makes me really really wish we could hear the phone call with TS last Friday.

 

[sleuth2001]

I can't understand why LE would have Logan hold off on going especially for over a week! he has provided all the info they could possibly get from him. even if they think the trip is pointless it would at least let him feel as though he is doing something. something else is up! but then again if they know something then why does it seem they aren't acting and what is taking so long? they haven't even charged TS with falsifying records which she has admitted publicly. It may not put her in jail but she would at least have a charge...then the conspiracy thing could come out later as more evidence is available. actually the conspiracy thing was proven when she falsified the records and admitted it so I am not sure why the are "trying" to build a conspiracy case when that is right there in their face. I just don't get any of this! the lack of news coverage, the hush hush, nancy grace not covering it, the hold off on the landfill search, tellling Logan to wait around and then nothing happens. I see they set up the trust fund so even though I am all for the idea and plan to donate, it kind of dashes my hope because the family wouldn't bother if they have any news. Of course I would still give to the fund when Gabriel is found because I want this baby to have everything he could ever imagine and don't want Logan to have a hard time worrying about money but I feel as though they don't have any real info from the LE either and they should be the first to know. the whole story is just so strange from beginning until now.
:banghead:

 

[SusanB]

Checking in for any news. Nothing tonight on any of the shows. Kind of scary.

 

[OneLove]

Yup, the very first one. I transcribed that when it came out...there was a lot of weirdness in that interview and a lot of it still hasn't been explained.

After listening to this yet again:

Do we know if it was EJ that had asked to speak to TS, or vice versa?

If EJ had asked to talk to TS, and had said specifically that there was something she wanted to ask TS, as was implied at the very end of the interview, then

I believe TS intentionally took media with her to be sure that EJ did NOT ask that specific question or questions, such as maybe "is Gabriel ok?". She wanted EJ to know they were not alone.

TS controlled the interview the whole time, using it to blame Logan, and then Jack took over to give EJ the reminder of Gabriel just needing a little time to "change his looks".

The part I don't get is their telling her she could be in jail for life. I can't come up with an explanation that fits this angle on things. Anyone?

 

[kissdegirl]

I can't understand why LE would have Logan hold off on going especially for over a week! he has provided all the info they could possibly get from him. even if they think the trip is pointless it would at least let him feel as though he is doing something. something else is up! but then again if they know something then why does it seem they aren't acting and what is taking so long? they haven't even charged TS with falsifying records which she has admitted publicly. It may not put her in jail but she would at least have a charge...then the conspiracy thing could come out later as more evidence is available. actually the conspiracy thing was proven when she falsified the records and admitted it so I am not sure why the are "trying" to build a conspiracy case when that is right there in their face. I just don't get any of this! the lack of news coverage, the hush hush, nancy grace not covering it, the hold off on the landfill search, tellling Logan to wait around and then nothing happens. I see they set up the trust fund so even though I am all for the idea and plan to donate, it kind of dashes my hope because the family wouldn't bother if they have any news. Of course I would still give to the fund when Gabriel is found because I want this baby to have everything he could ever imagine and don't want Logan to have a hard time worrying about money but I feel as though they don't have any real info from the LE either and they should be the first to know. the whole story is just so strange from beginning until now.
:banghead:

BBM
I feel so antsy inside, because I feel like something's about to boil over. I wonder if it's something the FBI is working, and possibly for either Gabriel's protection, or to catch a certain person, they are waiting. I like to think they are like a rattlesnake, coiled up and waiting for the strike. I know Logan must be going nuts with the lack of info too. I am so sorry about that, but I hope something does come soon. Unlike LE, that might leak something to the family, I don't feel the FBI would. JMO.

On another note, there's so much about all the interviews that stick out as strange to me, and this may be nothing, but the fact that a 23 year old uses the word "hasty" just doesn't seem right. Is that a word she used often? What bugs me about it is, it's a word an older person is likely to use, someone like JS. I don't know, it's just wierd. http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/search-baby-gabriel-arizona-mother-refuses-police-find/story?id=9489263

Another part that has been bugging me is the comment about Victoria, TX, when JS seems to nudge TS. (I swear I can't find a link) I don't feel like it's a "shut up" nudge, but more like a "see, it did work to get them on the wrong trail.


I just need something to go on, this lack of info is painful.

 

[captdj]

I hadn't heard this raw intervew with EJ before, so I'm sorry if it's been posted. It's a 10 minute phone interview.

http://www.kpho.com/video/22155911/index.html

When asked why she told Logan she had killed Gabriel... Elizabeth's answer was " I was emotionally a wreck and completely out of my mind"

That is a scary statement coming from Elizabeth....knowing what shes done in the past when she was upset.....

 

[kissdegirl]

When asked why she told Logan she had killed Gabriel... Elizabeth's answer was " I was emotionally a wreck and completely out of my mind"

That is a scary statement coming from Elizabeth....knowing what shes done in the past when she was upset.....

I agree.

 

[danisisa]

I hadn't heard this raw intervew with EJ before, so I'm sorry if it's been posted. It's a 10 minute phone interview.

http://www.kpho.com/video/22155911/index.html[/QUOTE


After listening to this, I believe EJ does not know where G is. IF TS and JS sent the people to get G, the would have scripted them what to say. I think she knows there names, but would the names even be real.

 

[BeanE]

After listening to this yet again:

Do we know if it was EJ that had asked to speak to TS, or vice versa?

If EJ had asked to talk to TS, and had said specifically that there was something she wanted to ask TS, as was implied at the very end of the interview, then

I believe TS intentionally took media with her to be sure that EJ did NOT ask that specific question or questions, such as maybe "is Gabriel ok?". She wanted EJ to know they were not alone.

TS controlled the interview the whole time, using it to blame Logan, and then Jack took over to give EJ the reminder of Gabriel just needing a little time to "change his looks".

The part I don't get is their telling her she could be in jail for life. I can't come up with an explanation that fits this angle on things. Anyone?

Eliz called her grandfather from jail to get Tammi's phone number.

In an interview before the call between Tammi and Eliz, Tammi said that Eliz wanted Tammi's attorney to help her get custody of Gabe, yet custody wasn't mentioned. There is a segment of phone conversation prior to that made public that has not been published, except in short clips, none of which mention custody.

Looking at the transcript of the phone call, it is obvious that Tammi did not 'control the interview the whole time' (the majority of the interview is between Eliz and the reporter), Jack never reminded Eliz that Gabe just needed time to change his looks, and they pointed out to Eliz that she could spend the rest of her life in jail specifically for murder.

not_my_kids transcribed the interview and it's posted in these threads.

 

[danisisa]

I think this is bigger than just G. Please don't take that wrong. I have lost sleep trying to web search to find anything I can. I think what TS wanted will reveal something else and lil G will be home soon. EJ, unfortunantly, got brainwashed and played. Not that I am defending her actions because she needs some serious counseling.

 

[sleuth2001]

I too wonder if this is not bigger than just G. Of course my main focus at this point is to find Gabriel but I believe this was a well planned out thing. The Texas cell phone, going to a library to use a computer thinking it couldn't be traced specially to E. because it was a public place and many people use the computers, driving specifically to SA and spending approx 6 days having the baby all days but the last. Then ditching the car so LE was looking for her in a car instead of a bus. GPS system bought to get her to a specific area. I mean if you were driving at random just to run why would you need a GPS to guide you? SA is a big place and I am sure there are road signs all over the interstate letting you know you are there and a hotel could be found anywhere! setting up the false father papers prior to the run, selling stuff before the run. The only thing I don't get is they didn't plan E's getaway very well or she screwed it up by texting L and then the hunt was on. Maybe she wasn't suppose to have any communication with L and then when she did she got pissed and sent the text. Seems to me her getaway should have been planned so as she wouldn't get caught because if she got caught the more likely they would get caught...somebody messed up!

 

[cyberborg]

OK my eyes are old but does this person look the same Is that Lenny?
His shirt even looks the same or similar

http://makorecovery.com/rob dick kara keene leonard padilla rex venator spyder.jpg

and this video at 2:34

http://www.kpho.com/video/22146968/index.html

Similar shirts, similar guys -- not the same. Good catch though!! He does look like a Lenny. ;-)