AZ - Gabriel Johnson, 8 months, 26 Dec 2009 - last seen in Texas - #2

[not_my_kids]

http://www.criminalsearches.com/det...AK3BIiNeJdLYU1PFhDCE66nTquYezv/s4=&input=name

Posted last thread too. Logan's full criminal record, at least as full as I can get.

 

[STEADFAST]

Wow ! So I just got caught up, thanks to everyone for the NG show lol. I missed it tonight of all nights. POI the Smiths well I know I was not suprised, there is something very wrong with that woman.
When I listened to the interview with EJ from the jail , it was apparent to me that Mrs. Smith was leading her along. Another interesting point in that interview for me was when Mr.Smith told EJ that if they don't fing the baby they can charge her with murder you could have heard a pin drop at that moment in time. EJ has or had no clue at that time the extent of her problems. I still wonder if Mr. Smith knows the whole story, Mrs. Smith yes.
Her negativity from the start about Logan was a red flag to me she did not even know him.
It is possible EJ will bring this woman down and rat her out if EJ knows enough ... This girl truly believed imo , in her voice that this was a closed adoption and she felt she did nothing wrong. Mrs. Smith I feel has been feeding this little gal so BS topped with shrooms ...lol.
I certainly hope that Gabe is alive and no harm has come to him, I really don't hear that in EJ's voice but I have been wrong before,,
Mom didnt you send Tammi's MS and other links over to LE in AZ ?

I've been wondering if Mr. Smith knows quite a bit less about what's going on than Mrs. Smith does. You notice she doesn't claim to have volunteered for a lie detector test like he claims to have done, either.

 

[momtective]

More comments (same cbs link) - I assume since this is public it is ok to post:

I HOPE THIS IS NOT ANOTHER SUSAN SMITH... I HOPE THEY FIND THE BOY SOON, ALIVE. THE FUNNY TWIST TO THIS STORY IS TAMMI AND JACK SMITH. I WILL TELLYOU ABOUT THE SO CALLED GOOD MOTHER, TAMMI. SHE IS MY X WIFE AND THE MOTHER OF OUR 3 WES I SAID 3 KIDS. SHE DID NOT RAISE HER OWN KIDS,WORK OR EVEN CLEAN OR COOK FOR THEM...I DID. SHE GAVE THEM UP AND TOLD MY WIFE AT THE TIME TO ADOPT THEM. SHE WAS MARRYING JACK AND HE DID NOT TO DEAL WITH THE CHILDREN,SO SHE CHOSE HIM OVER HER OWN CHILDREN. LIKE I SAID I HOPE THE BOY IS OK AND I HOPE TAMMI DOES NOT GET COSTUDY. THE OTHER CHILD THEY HAVE IS JACKS GRANDAUGHTER,THAT IS WHY THE HAVE HER. THEY CANT ADOPT THE NORMAL WAY...OH OH OH DID I MENTION THAT SHE HAS LITTLE OR NO CONTACT WITH HER 3 KIDS,TAMMI IS NOT FIT TO BE A MOTHER OF ANY KIDS

To coin a phrase posted earlier by BeanE...Holy Healing Waters!

 

[Prof]

I agree that Logan's criminal past was 4-5 years ago. It does not bother me either. He was REALLY young and it was a non violent crime. Who knows what it was...I read the court minutes and couldn't tell what it was it was he stole. I give Logan FAR more credit than mom. I'm pretty sue Logan used to work at the Native New Yorker in Mesa..i believe he waited on me once. He is so handsome honestly he is hard to forget. Him and Elizabeth made a really beautiful baby... I sure hope Gabe is alive.

I am appauled at the Smiths and what I have read. They should be POI and I think they know exactly what happened to the baby. TS post regarding EJ going "underground" is VERY disturbing.

In the pics of Gabe's birth LM is wearing a uniform for a different industry --looks like a reputable company who might service homes and offices, so it would seem to me that his past is not an issue for employment --

 

[pghbrandi]

Wow ! So I just got caught up, thanks to everyone for the NG show lol. I missed it tonight of all nights. POI the Smiths well I know I was not suprised, there is something very wrong with that woman.
When I listened to the interview with EJ from the jail , it was apparent to me that Mrs. Smith was leading her along. Another interesting point in that interview for me was when Mr.Smith told EJ that if they don't fing the baby they can charge her with murder you could have heard a pin drop at that moment in time. EJ has or had no clue at that time the extent of her problems. I still wonder if Mr. Smith knows the whole story, Mrs. Smith yes.
Her negativity from the start about Logan was a red flag to me she did not even know him.

It is possible EJ will bring this woman down and rat her out if EJ knows enough ... This girl truly believed imo , in her voice that this was a closed adoption and she felt she did nothing wrong. Mrs. Smith I feel has been feeding this little gal some BS topped with shrooms ...lol.

I certainly hope that Gabe is alive and no harm has come to him, I really don't hear that in EJ's voice but I have been wrong before,,
Mom didnt you send Tammi's MS and other links over to LE in AZ ?

Everything you just said is everything I have been thinking!!!!

 

[SusanB]

More comments (same cbs link) - I assume since this is public it is ok to post:

I HOPE THIS IS NOT ANOTHER SUSAN SMITH... I HOPE THEY FIND THE BOY SOON, ALIVE. THE FUNNY TWIST TO THIS STORY IS TAMMI AND JACK SMITH. I WILL TELLYOU ABOUT THE SO CALLED GOOD MOTHER, TAMMI. SHE IS MY X WIFE AND THE MOTHER OF OUR 3 WES I SAID 3 KIDS. SHE DID NOT RAISE HER OWN KIDS,WORK OR EVEN CLEAN OR COOK FOR THEM...I DID. SHE GAVE THEM UP AND TOLD MY WIFE AT THE TIME TO ADOPT THEM. SHE WAS MARRYING JACK AND HE DID NOT TO DEAL WITH THE CHILDREN,SO SHE CHOSE HIM OVER HER OWN CHILDREN. LIKE I SAID I HOPE THE BOY IS OK AND I HOPE TAMMI DOES NOT GET COSTUDY. THE OTHER CHILD THEY HAVE IS JACKS GRANDAUGHTER,THAT IS WHY THE HAVE HER. THEY CANT ADOPT THE NORMAL WAY...OH OH OH DID I MENTION THAT SHE HAS LITTLE OR NO CONTACT WITH HER 3 KIDS,TAMMI IS NOT FIT TO BE A MOTHER OF ANY KIDS

Wow, OK, thanks for your post!

 

[mysticrose]

More comments (same cbs link) - I assume since this is public it is ok to post:

I HOPE THIS IS NOT ANOTHER SUSAN SMITH... I HOPE THEY FIND THE BOY SOON, ALIVE. THE FUNNY TWIST TO THIS STORY IS TAMMI AND JACK SMITH. I WILL TELLYOU ABOUT THE SO CALLED GOOD MOTHER, TAMMI. SHE IS MY X WIFE AND THE MOTHER OF OUR 3 WES I SAID 3 KIDS. SHE DID NOT RAISE HER OWN KIDS,WORK OR EVEN CLEAN OR COOK FOR THEM...I DID. SHE GAVE THEM UP AND TOLD MY WIFE AT THE TIME TO ADOPT THEM. SHE WAS MARRYING JACK AND HE DID NOT TO DEAL WITH THE CHILDREN,SO SHE CHOSE HIM OVER HER OWN CHILDREN. LIKE I SAID I HOPE THE BOY IS OK AND I HOPE TAMMI DOES NOT GET COSTUDY. THE OTHER CHILD THEY HAVE IS JACKS GRANDAUGHTER,THAT IS WHY THE HAVE HER. THEY CANT ADOPT THE NORMAL WAY...OH OH OH DID I MENTION THAT SHE HAS LITTLE OR NO CONTACT WITH HER 3 KIDS,TAMMI IS NOT FIT TO BE A MOTHER OF ANY KIDS

 

[time]

To coin a phrase posted earlier by BeanE...Holy Healing Waters!

I know! I forgot to copy his nickname - I think it's Keith or something close

 

[Searchfortruth]

I know!! Maybe because she doesn't think she'll need him again ?
Every couple months I swear to WS and CNN that I'm not going to watch her anymore. I last until a case like this comes along (which seems to be pretty frequently these days). I'm glad none of you seem to remember or call me on it. Thanks.

I know what you mean. I was a huge fan of Nancy's for a long time, but the separation process has begun. The latest Tiger craze had shown me that I needed to cut ties, this sets it in stone. :furious:

 

[sleuthinginca]

More comments (same cbs link) - I assume since this is public it is ok to post:

I HOPE THIS IS NOT ANOTHER SUSAN SMITH... I HOPE THEY FIND THE BOY SOON, ALIVE. THE FUNNY TWIST TO THIS STORY IS TAMMI AND JACK SMITH. I WILL TELLYOU ABOUT THE SO CALLED GOOD MOTHER, TAMMI. SHE IS MY X WIFE AND THE MOTHER OF OUR 3 WES I SAID 3 KIDS. SHE DID NOT RAISE HER OWN KIDS,WORK OR EVEN CLEAN OR COOK FOR THEM...I DID. SHE GAVE THEM UP AND TOLD MY WIFE AT THE TIME TO ADOPT THEM. SHE WAS MARRYING JACK AND HE DID NOT TO DEAL WITH THE CHILDREN,SO SHE CHOSE HIM OVER HER OWN CHILDREN. LIKE I SAID I HOPE THE BOY IS OK AND I HOPE TAMMI DOES NOT GET COSTUDY. THE OTHER CHILD THEY HAVE IS JACKS GRANDAUGHTER,THAT IS WHY THE HAVE HER. THEY CANT ADOPT THE NORMAL WAY...OH OH OH DID I MENTION THAT SHE HAS LITTLE OR NO CONTACT WITH HER 3 KIDS,TAMMI IS NOT FIT TO BE A MOTHER OF ANY KIDS

I do believe she has little or no contact with her other kids. If you look at her MS pics... the pictures she has of her other kids are all from one outing. I feel sorry for her other children seeing how obsessed she is with adopting and all the pictures of her new adopted daughter. And then there is her cafemom writings about how abusive her ex was which I am sure was all fabricated in her off-her-rocker mind of hers. That woman is nutso!

 

[mysticrose]

When I saw TS pictures of her home and such I was like I wonder what they do for a living , it is a beautiful home. Maybe Ms. Tammi brings in some extra money on the side dealing or I mean helping out with placing children ? The colon cleansing business although probally does very well, people seem to be hooked on that kind of stuff ..

 

[momtective]

Respectfully snipped & BBM

This girl truly believed imo , in her voice that this was a closed adoption and she felt she did nothing wrong. Mrs. Smith I feel has been feeding this little gal some BS topped with shrooms ...lol.

I certainly hope that Gabe is alive and no harm has come to him, I really don't hear that in EJ's voice but I have been wrong before,,
Mom didnt you send Tammi's MS and other links over to LE in AZ ?

:floorlaugh:
and
yes, I sent it to them along with their ad for a surrogate, Tammi's cafemom bio, and some craigslist postings by TPS & J.

 

[momtective]

I know! I forgot to copy his nickname - I think it's Keith or something close

It's keith.

 

[mysticrose]

I do believe she has little or no contact with her other kids. If you look at her MS pics... the pictures she has of her other kids are all from one outing. I feel sorry for her other children seeing how obsessed she is with adopting and all the pictures of her new adopted daughter. And then there is her cafemom writings about how abusive her ex was which I am sure was all fabricated in her off-her-rocker mind of hers. That woman is nutso!

I did not get the chance to read any of that , but if your Ex is or was so abusive, then why did you leave the kids with him ??? :waitasec: Why did you not use your underground connections TS ? I don't get it ....
This gal is going down she can't keep anything straight.

I would suggest she watch herself in all of her interviews before she goes on TV again so she can get it all straight for once before she opens her mouth....imo lol

 

[DairyGirl]

Respectfully snipped & BBM


:floorlaugh:
and
yes, I sent it to them along with their ad for a surrogate, Tammi's cafemom bio, and some craigslist postings by TPS & J.

I wouldn't mind seeing those myself

 

[mysticrose]

Why is it that the Smiths can't do a regular adoption ? I think this is like the third time I have read that ...

 

[CHICANA]

When I saw TS pictures of her home and such I was like I wonder what they do for a living , it is a beautiful home. Maybe Ms. Tammi brings in some extra money on the side dealing or I mean helping out with placing children ? The colon cleansing business although probally does very well, people seem to be hooked on that kind of stuff ..

I wouldn't go to her for a colon cleansing, it hasn't worked for her, as she's obviously still full of ....

 

[pghbrandi]

She says it's easier for the kids to do it that way. I say BS. If I were in that situation, I would
NEVER give up my children

 

[SusanB]

The first I am hearing from tonight is from the twin brother. He says his sister is a "hothead" but he loves her, and would encourage her to talk. He also is the ne who introduced her to Logan - he has known Logan for 10 years, and believes him to be able to parent Gabriel effectively.
Wow, some serious insights provided by Time about TS. Stuff I already suspected may be true.
The info about TS's history should be forwarded to NG and others who interview this psycho woman.
I think TS is getting really nervous now. Also, EJ may be talking to LE - I doubt she is going to take all the heat for this situation.
I bet dollars to donuts that the Smiths will have a lawyer tomorrow, and will stop talking.
EJ will have one as well, a pro bono hitting it for the publicity.
More will be revealed!:thumb:

 

[Elphaba]

Why is it that the Smiths can't do a regular adoption ? I think this is like the third time I have read that ...

I've read somewhere that Tammi had her other kids taken away from her... if this is true and does show up in her background history, then her ability to adopt through conventional avenues would be nil to none.