AZ - Gabriel Johnson, 8 months, 26 Dec 2009 - last seen in Texas - #3

[Melanie]

I assume the child is their daughter?






Mel

 

[Searchfortruth]

Hmmmm... can I get that online as well? Without attending? :woohoo:

Good thought, but I think this is one of those services you have to show up for.

 

[Salem]

But what is the link to San Antonio or are we thinking that maybe baby Gabriel was never in San Antonio and that San Antonio was just a diversion.
Evidently EJ did get up with a church or underground safe group because the hotel room had a highchair, baby cloths and baby things that were left behind. No I ask you, who travels with a highchair? I believe these items were provided by the Church or Underground group and were in place in the room before EJ arrived. I'm not so sure I believe Gabriel was even with her in San Antonio, we've seen no proof that he was, no video, nothing. So it could be that Gabriel was hidden by Tammi there in AZ. JMO

I think she took baby Gabe to San Antonio but I think it was a diversion. A way to better escape detection.... Either Tammi also went to San Antonio or Tammi had a connection in San Antonio that picked up the baby. If Tammi was smart enough to figure out it would not look good if she went to SA - she could have sent someone in her place - maybe the Cheryl woman EJ talks about? Who would check to see if Cheryl went to SA? No one, unless there was some connection between her, TPS and/or EJ.

I don't think EJ had any connections. I think all connections were made by TPS and EJ just followed orders. EJ was on a mission to hurt LM and keep baby Gabe from his daddy. I don't think EJ cared how it was done, as long as it was done.

This to me is a Susan Baker story - with TPS being Susan Baker. TPS orchestrated everything - in my opinion.

Salem

 

[SusanB]

And yet again, I am totally amazed and delighted about this websleuthing community! You are all awesome - links, videos, photocopies, etc. Everyone here is insightful and informative!
OK, that said, and I really meant it, my head is spinning with this case. So many twists and turns.
I was hoping to clear my mind by seeing that Gabriel has been found - but I guess I must trudge on w/ you folks and keep on digging.
After reading all the latest posts, it is becoming clear to me that Tammi Smith is deeply into the baby procuring business. I would not be surprised if she is a leader in the underground black market. The fact that she would chance exposure on national TV baffles me - she must be a psychopath who thrives on attention, or wants to be seen as the Goddess Mama of caring about the needs of poor uncared for infants of the world.
What she does not seem to understand is that human trafficking is ILLEGAL, and jail time will be the punishment.
She's already cooked her goose, so now trying to delete stuff and all is worthless activity.
TS and JS are FOS, and may likely be prosecuted for their role in this situation as well as others.
All I want is for beautiful Gabriel to be found, and returned to his parent.
Shame on you Tammi, for manipulating people for your own selfish needs.:shakehead:

 

[LadyL]

I assume the child is their daughter?

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Mel

yes, that's H. there's tons of pics of her all over their FB & MS pages

 

[Taminator]

No matter what TPS says, the fact of the matter is Logan is Gabriel's father and he now has FULL custody of him. So, if this woman knows ANYTHING, she better cough it up or spew it out her colon or whatever. She thinks that they can't be charged with anything because they haven't "done" anything, but IF she knows where Gabriel is and she is withholding that information (for whatever saintly reason she believes in her pea sized brain), she CAN be charged with custodial interference. So if she knows where he is, she better hope that it can't be connected to her. Whether she actually placed Gabriel with these people that are possibly holding him or not, it doesn't matter. If she has knowledge, she better come forward with it.

 

[time]

I have this horrible feeling Tammi is going to claim her religion compelled her to save these children or to do what she's done.

 

[Salem]

But what is the link to San Antonio or are we thinking that maybe baby Gabriel was never in San Antonio and that San Antonio was just a diversion.
Evidently EJ did get up with a church or underground safe group because the hotel room had a highchair, baby cloths and baby things that were left behind. Now I ask you, who travels with a highchair? I believe these items were provided by the Church or Underground group and were in place in the room before EJ arrived. I'm not so sure I believe Gabriel was even with her in San Antonio, we've seen no proof that he was, no video, nothing. So it could be that Gabriel was hidden by Tammi there in AZ. JMO

Really good thoughts here. LE did say they had evidence that Gabe was in SA. Don't know if that is witnesses or video because LE hasn't said, but I'm going with the assumption that LE does have something that shows Gabe was in SA.

Maybe CCV is the church/underground connection - just MY SPECULATION only here. I agree about the high chair. I have NEVER been to a motel/hotel where a high chair was provided? I think that is odd.

Salem

 

[Taminator]

I think she took baby Gabe to San Antonio but I think it was a diversion. A way to better escape detection.... Either Tammi also went to San Antonio or Tammi had a connection in San Antonio that picked up the baby. If Tammi was smart enough to figure out it would not look good if she went to SA - she could have sent someone in her place - maybe the Cheryl woman EJ talks about? Who would check to see if Cheryl went to SA? No one, unless there was some connection between her, TPS and/or EJ.

I don't think EJ had any connections. I think all connections were made by TPS and EJ just followed orders. EJ was on a mission to hurt LM and keep baby Gabe from his daddy. I don't think EJ cared how it was done, as long as it was done.

This to me is a Susan Baker story - with TPS being Susan Baker. TPS orchestrated everything - in my opinion.

Salem

I agree. I believe she orchestrated everything. She better start singing. If she doesn't think she can be charged, she's wrong.

 

[Taminator]

I have this horrible feeling Tammi is going to claim her religion compelled her to save these children or to do what she's done.

Yeah, I think she thinks she is some type of saint and it's her saintly (read "nuttily") duty to save all the little children of the world.

 

[Searchfortruth]

I think they may have sent Gabriel to Mexico. It's true there are lots of Cheryl's out there and this Cheryl could be just another one. I don't know. It is strange that this is the name EJ gives LE and there is one on TPS's FB page, both share a connect to the same church. Still it's a leap without something more.

 

[time]

The high chair could have been one of those travel ones - I bought one when my grandson came to visit. Elizabeth could have already had one and she just had to throw it in the car. Nonetheless, I'm betting things could have been provided for her.

 

[Melanie]

I have this horrible feeling Tammi is going to claim her religion compelled her to save these children or to do what she's done.

I agree - after reading some of the links, my first impression is religious fanaticism.

Who needs a colonic in the name of God?

Praise God, that if we have Faith, he can move mountains for us!
Pray about it, and give us a call. We are here to help you!

I said from the get-go "nut jobs".

Also, if you go to the web site: http://www.healingwatersaz.com/

You will also see a blurb about Crisis Nursery and breaking the cycle of child abuse and neglect.

Quite odd to see that on a colonic web site don't ya think?

Mel

 

[smart blonde]

I've actually heard of this Sherrif & that jail system before - think I saw a documentary or something.

One thing: are the taxpayers paying less for the tent accomodation & less-than-nutritious lunch, which I'm sure saves him lots of $$$?

Yes, Sheriff Joe brags that it only costs the taxpayers 19 cents a day (or some other ridiculously low amount) to feed each inmate.

This is the jail system that brought back the old fashioned black and white striped clothing for inmates.

The sheriff is constantly being battled over the inhumane and dangerous treatment of the inmates. Not a problem, unless you take into account that many of these people being held have been charged, but not yet convicted of a crime.

Many inmates have lost their lives there, while awaiting trial. It's a very scary place to be, I understand.

 

[January.]

I really don't think that there is a real "Cheryl". Even though I DO think little Gabriel was handed off to someone, I doubt that EJ would use a real name for her made-up couple in the park.

OT but SusanB, we're practically neighbors! I'm not sure if I mentioned that before. I've seen quite a number of Reading area people on here

 

[danni]

I assume the child is their daughter?



Mel

I removed the pictures because since the little girl is in one i don't know if it is "legal" or not but

YES, that is the daughter that they adopted from JS's daughter, who's father is now coming out and saying that they pretty much got this child without his knowing. WOW doesn't this sound like something we have been talking A LOT about here?

read more about the little girls father and what he has to say here. http://www.kpho.com/news/22180215/detail.html

 

[momtective]

I agree. I believe she orchestrated everything. She better start singing. If she doesn't think she can be charged, she's wrong.

Interference with child custody, aiding and abetting, accessory after the fact to transporting a child across state lines and possibly murder. You better know she can be charged! She is very deceived if she thinks she can't.

 

[A_Closer_Look]

Do we have this one yet?

http://www.myspace.com/healingwaterscolonics

 

[passionflower]

On HLN right now, but nothing new........looking into San Antonio

 

[Salem]

Do we have this one yet?

http://www.myspace.com/healingwaterscolonics

She can't spell worth a darn. Also, her status says she is single, yet her heros are her husband and children?

Salem