AZ - Gabriel Johnson, 8 months, 26 Dec 2009 - last seen in Texas - #6

[PercyVeer]

omg... I knew there would be more weird stuff and more players!


thank you eitak

I am beginning to wonder how much more weird stuff ! :waitasec:
IMO There are too many babies, too many advertisements, too many nannies, too many clinics full of quasi-medical stuff, too many stories ! Maybe worrying about this baby's safety has me bonkers, but sometimes I think there is a glacier-type deal here, we are seeing only the top ?

 

[Salem]

I am very suspcious about the whole meeting at the airport thing. For one thing, I went back over her FB postings for around that time period, June 2009 and no where does she mention going on any trips. Other times she talks about going to Mexico, etc. Why they would lie about it I don't know but it makes me question all the other things they say. I am fairly positive that they met online in one of TPS's baby hunting quests.

Good sleuthing! Also, it should be noted that neither TS or JS can remember "airport" and there has been much inconsistency about whether TS met EJ at Boston airport or Inndianapolis airport.

I don't think they met at any airport - just my opinion of course.

Salem

 

[W8nC]

http://www.kpho.com/news/22222086/detail.html

He could only speculate? Is he a moron? How else would EJ get his name unless cousin TPS gave it to her? Why is he playing dumb? It is becoming clearer and clearer the lengths she would go to get baby Gabriel. Lying seems to have come easy to her. Lying about meeting her at the airport. I don't believe she did unless it was a prearranged meeting that was arranged over the internet. She must have been the person to plant a bug in EJ's ear aboubt the 30 day abandonment thing. She is up to this to her eyeballs and I don't know how she can explain it all away. She needs to do some serious soul searching and come clean about everything, especially how EJ got to San Antonio and who sent her there.

and I bet tomorrow night, NG will have JS on, alone.....saying he doesnt understand how Tammi could have lied to him about this! He feels DUPED!!!

heheheh



jmo

 

[panthera]

I have but 5 words for Tammi Smith "God will not be mocked!"

Amen! She will have to explain herself, sooner or later. :furious:

 

[SuziQ]

I really don't believe EJ drove ALL the way from AZ to TX to kill the child. She could have done that in AZ, or in any rural area around her home city. Why drive THAT far to kill him? Makes no sense. If she is smart enough to not talk, and resist all the questioning she is getting, she is smart enough to have NOT driven that far just to kill a baby.

Sadly, I fear that after getting in touch with Janet, that Janet may have explained to everyone for all their efforts the gig was up. EJ probably was telling the truth that Logan ruined her life...ruined the plan....what did she do at that point? No adoption, no home to go back to, 1200 dollars won't last that long and LE has an APB out for her. And she's pizzed off at the baby's father big time.

I wish the current revelation made me more positive about Gabe's plight.

ETA: all it did was confirm to me what a lying snake the Smith's are.

 

[momtective]

Pssst. That's 5 words.

I have three. "Bolt of lightning."

yeah, I suck at math...but I'm a fair sleuth. My spellin's pretty bad too.:crazy:

 

[mum]

Wow, TPS helped her name CC as the possible father and this link explains that if you are a family member you can basically bypass some of the adoption laws put in place for none family placements.


http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q...&gl=us&sig=AHIEtbTbKhrAlvm5zKMjDBiKE-qhU0pHmw


She was definetly trying to circumvent the laws. My money says they do not have a homestudy and cannot get one.

 

[panthera]

http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/news/local/tempe/johnson_case_011210

i may have missed this being posted, so sorry if its a repeat....but this article says that police in SA have been searching landfills and dumpsters. it also says that EJ used internet at the hotel so they are looking at the sites that she visited.

That is good news. :woohoo:

 

[Ives]

http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/news/local/tempe/johnson_case_011210

i may have missed this being posted, so sorry if its a repeat....but this article says that police in SA have been searching landfills and dumpsters. it also says that EJ used internet at the hotel so they are looking at the sites that she visited.

Interesting...My Husband works for WM, he visits the landfill 6 days a week, more than once a day. I am pretty sure he would tell me the police were there. I mean he told me about a lady who dumps deceased horses there! He comes home telling me all kinds of stuff I do not want to hear, But listen to "his day" out of respect I suppose.:waitasec:

I will have to tell him to keep an eye out. Would dead animals throw off a cadaver dog??

 

[not_my_kids]

Wow, nmk....interesting bit of...knowledge.....dare I ask....???
:waitasec:

Lot of work on the UID forums, so lots of talking to Medical Examiners.
And a lot of research on the processes of death.

 

[Salem]

http://www.kpho.com/news/22222086/detail.html

He could only speculate? Is he a moron? How else would EJ get his name unless cousin TPS gave it to her? Why is he playing dumb? It is becoming clearer and clearer the lengths she would go to get baby Gabriel. Lying seems to have come easy to her. Lying about meeting her at the airport. I don't believe she did unless it was a prearranged meeting that was arranged over the internet. She must have been the person to plant a bug in EJ's ear aboubt the 30 day abandonment thing. She is up to this to her eyeballs and I don't know how she can explain it all away. She needs to do some serious soul searching and come clean about everything, especially how EJ got to San Antonio and who sent her there.

All I can say is OMG!!! :banghead::banghead:

Salem

 

[mum]

How ironic TPS posted this on her fb.

Tammi Peters SmithAn evil man is trapped by his sinful talk, but a righteous man escapes trouble.

 

[eeyorelrn]

I don't know if Tornado is required to keep the same records as airlines are, but IIRC, EJ used an alias when she went to Florida so it seems they don't even ask for ID. :waitasec:

Actually, they do. I sent a friend of mine back to Ohio several months ago, and he could not get on the bus without showing his ID. At least for Greyhound, you do have to have one.

 

[SuziQ]

Interesting...My Husband works for WM, he visits the landfill 6 days a week, more than once a day. I am pretty sure he would tell me the police were there. I mean he told me about a lady who dumps deceased horses there! He comes home telling me all kinds of stuff I do not want to hear, But listen to "his day" out of respect I suppose.:waitasec:

I will have to tell him to keep an eye out. Would dead animals throw off a cadaver dog??

No. Cadaver dogs are trained with synthetic or real human cadaverine. Usually from a small piece a bed sheet a deceased person passed away on in a nursing home or hospital.

 

[Ives]

Wow, TPS helped her name CC as the possible father and this link explains that if you are a family member you can basically bypass some of the adoption laws put in place for none family placements.


http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q...&gl=us&sig=AHIEtbTbKhrAlvm5zKMjDBiKE-qhU0pHmw


She was definetly trying to circumvent the laws. My money says they do not have a homestudy and cannot get one.

She may not be able to pass one. Do we know her real reason for not having custody of her older children? That could be it right there. she may not have been able to even pass the background check. Isn't there some kind of "abuse registry" of sorts? if you get called on, it automaticcally (sp?) goes on that site, for all states? to prevent crossing state lines, and getting away with it again?

 

[A_Closer_Look]

Someone please inform Nancy that we have a real bombshell here with this CC thing!

 

[mum]

I read this from the link that was just posted but didn't they just sit on NG again tonight repeating that they were both at an airport and witnessed EJ crying???


:
Jack Smith, 56, told The Associated Press on Monday that he and his wife adopted their 4-year-old daughter from a family member and had been wanting to give her a sibling.

"When Tammi got home she said, 'I met a girl in the airport and she has this beautiful little baby and she has troubles, and I held him and loved him,' " Smith said. "Tammi was very excited about it."

 

[Baznme]

Someone please inform Nancy that we have a real bombshell here with this CC thing!

Somebody send her that video!

 

[panthera]

Actually, they do. I sent a friend of mine back to Ohio several months ago, and he could not get on the bus without showing his ID. At least for Greyhound, you do have to have one.

Maybe I'm mistaken but I understood EJ travelled as "Elizabeth Jones". Or at least that's what I heard on NG's show. Or maybe she had a fake ID?

 

[Baznme]

How ironic TPS posted this on her fb.

Tammi Peters SmithAn evil man is trapped by his sinful talk, but a righteous man escapes trouble.

She's cooked at this point and she knows it.