AZ - Gabriel Johnson, 8 months, 26 Dec 2009 - last seen in Texas - #7

[Kenziema]

Just an FYI, I was emailing the posts from TS Facebook page to my friends, and it got blocked saying it contained Antigens (not sure what they are). I don't know if her page has some sort of virus or something, but FYI.

 

[pghbrandi]

Just an FYI, I was emailing the posts from TS Facebook page to my friends, and it got blocked saying it contained Antigens (not sure what they are). I don't know if her page has some sort of virus or something, but FYI.

I know last night my FB was going CRAZY! I wonder if that is why???

 

[not_my_kids]

ok, wait. So EJ is saying LM is not the pappa? OK, so now its TS Cousin??

I have questions:

!. Why didnt Tammi mention this before and all of her interviews?
2. Where is this info coming from?
3. I thought TS met EJ at an airport 3-4 months ago, but didnt know her from Adam.
4. Isnt LM on the birth certificate????
5. Does anyone still think the Smiths are innocent??

1. TPS says LE didn't ask, so she didn't tell. (Hum to the tune of "We're in the Army now.)
2. From court documents EJ filed asking for paternity tests on Logan and CC.
3. At first it was 7-8 months ago, then it was a few weeks...oh he!!, who knows anymore. They met, we know that.
4. Not sure. Likely not, he has her last name and she was asking for paternity tests through the courts.
5. Half of FB, from the look of it. ETA: And Nancy Grace.

 

[Mels3kidz]

I am very picky about who comes on my FB (real one). I was accepted on TPS's early on and she already had over a thousand people. Who does that anyways, but for attention.

I've seen some FB with friends in the 4000's. I currently have 500 friend requests (one of them is an actress on One Life to Live ;-). But I only have family and a few high school friends approved. I don't understand it either. Twitter and all that 'tweeting' preplexes me as well.

Melissa

 

[Kamille]

ok, wait. So EJ is saying LM is not the pappa? OK, so now its TS Cousin??

I have questions:

!. Why didnt Tammi mention this before and all of her interviews?
2. Where is this info coming from?
3. I thought TS met EJ at an airport 3-4 months ago, but didnt know her from Adam.
4. Isnt LM on the birth certificate????
5. Does anyone still think the Smiths are innocent??

Okay I'll take a stab at them...

1. Because no one asked her about it.
2. The media. New media thread on sticky at top of page.
3. Not really been established, at least not here.
4. Also not sure but somehow I don't think so. Well at least not until the 28th?
5. I think they are not telling LE everything they know. They may be witholding information. I don't think they know where Gabriel is but I think they might have an idea of how he got there. IMO of course.

 

[momtective]

I know last night my FB was going CRAZY! I wonder if that is why???

Trust me when I tell you her facebook is being monitored by LE.:wink:

 

[Kamille]

1. TPS says LE didn't ask, so she didn't tell. (Hum to the tune of "We're in the Army now.)
2. From court documents EJ filed asking for paternity tests on Logan and CC.
3. At first it was 7-8 months ago, then it was a few weeks...oh he!!, who knows anymore. They met, we know that.
4. Not sure. Likely not, he has her last name and she was asking for paternity tests through the courts.
5. Half of FB, from the look of it.

LOL...you beat me to it!! Good answers. :dance:

 

[time]

I've said it before and I will say it again: I don't believe in coincidences, for the most part. It makes absolutely no sense that EJ would say someone she doesn't even know, let alone slept with, is a potential father of Gabriel.

I'm not buying this "Oh we were having a good ole time laughing it up about DUI's". Who does stuff like that? Why are her explainations so downright weird. They aren't even close to being what a normal person would try to explain.

I think she definitely knew Craig Cherry's name was on those court docs. But why would they put them on there? Obviously, they wouldn't be able to switch DNA samples to make CC the father. So what were they planning on doing with his name? Were they going to forge a copy of the birth certificate and pass Gabriel off as CC's child? And then forge his signature on the adoption papers?

None of this stuff makes sense. It does give me more hope that Gabe is still alive though.

You know, any of this could have helped the Smiths as it either buys time to interrupt the court process and make sure Logan didn't have Gabriel or makes Elizabeth look unfit - if they could make Logan look unfit also, then guess what! I don't think Elizabeth could think straight about it all, esp with their influence and Tammi acting like she cared about her, feeding her hatred for Logan at the same time. I think this all made Elizabeth more desperate as each thing failed and she was looking worse and worse. Again, I am not excusing anything that EJ has done.

 

[DairyGirl]

I've said it before and I will say it again: I don't believe in coincidences, for the most part. It makes absolutely no sense that EJ would say someone she doesn't even know, let alone slept with, is a potential father of Gabriel.

I'm not buying this "Oh we were having a good ole time laughing it up about DUI's". Who does stuff like that? Why are her explainations so downright weird. They aren't even close to being what a normal person would try to explain.

I think she definitely knew Craig Cherry's name was on those court docs. But why would they put them on there? Obviously, they wouldn't be able to switch DNA samples to make CC the father. So what were they planning on doing with his name? Were they going to forge a copy of the birth certificate and pass Gabriel off as CC's child? And then forge his signature on the adoption papers?


None of this stuff makes sense. It does give me more hope that Gabe is still alive though.

I agree. There are way too many coincidences in this situation to be credible. TPS just happens to run into a young mother looking to adopt out her child at the airport, when TPS has been running around scouting for a baby for at least a year? EJ files paternity papers that happens to have TPS's cousin's name on them? LE swoops down on a contract in TN that happens to be a friend of TPS, whom she conveniently forgot she put in touch with EJ? EJ has a GPS in her car when she is jobless and has to sell her dogs for money? EJ heads to San Antonio when she has no known contacts there? Too many coincidences for my liking.

 

[burbqueen]

1. TPS says LE didn't ask, so she didn't tell. (Hum to the tune of "We're in the Army now.)
2. From court documents EJ filed asking for paternity tests on Logan and CC.
3. At first it was 7-8 months ago, then it was a few weeks...oh he!!, who knows anymore. They met, we know that.
4. Not sure. Likely not, he has her last name and she was asking for paternity tests through the courts.
5. Half of FB, from the look of it.

OMG thank you so much. I dont check for half a day and wow! So EJ filed the court documents when? just recently? I wonder how does she know about this guy anyway when he says he never met her?? Another Ploy by TS?

How could the fact that LM could not be the father something you dont bring up to anyone??

Half of Facebook believes the Smiths are innocent especially after the cousin thing??? What!???! oh the humanity...

 

[time]

I know last night my FB was going CRAZY! I wonder if that is why???

Maybe the FBI has put something on there to record everythig Probably wishful thinking

 

[pghbrandi]

Trust me when I tell you her facebook is being monitored by LE.:wink:

I'm sure they are. I honestly didn't think of that until you mentioned it!
My curiosity got the best of me and I had to send the friend request. Maybe I should de-friend myself!

 

[what about this?]

Does EJ have a FB page or just MS?

If she has FB, anyone know how to find it? There are over 500 EJ's listed -

 

[not_my_kids]

When questioned about the layover and how she met EJ when it seemed that EJ was looking a nanny prior to meeting her at the airport, TPS says that they had a baby about to be born, they were set up to adopt through Agape Adoption Agency and the other family asked for cash, but that's against the law, so they wouldn't go through with that adoption.
From FB: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1585061919
Is screen shotted and will be on it's way to LE, in case she changes that.

 

[Ives]

TS on FB says something to the affect, they had a baby that was going to be born 4 days after they got gabe, and they said no, because the family asked them for $$. Now they are Dealing with "this" because of what they were TOLD...

someone better at paraphraseing should get on this, LOL
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1585061919

 

[not_my_kids]

OMG thank you so much. I dont check for half a day and wow! So EJ filed the court documents when? just recently? I wonder how does she know about this guy anyway when he says he never met her?? Another Ploy by TS?

How could the fact that LM could not be the father something you dont bring up to anyone??

Half of Facebook believes the Smiths are innocent especially after the cousin thing??? What!???! oh the humanity...

Recently, yes, not sure of the exact date. But TPS says that she and EJ were talking and she mentioned that her cousin, CC, has the same record as Logan. And although she was the one that made copies of the paternity request paperwork, she says she didn't know that EJ had named her cousin.

 

[pghbrandi]

Recently, yes, not sure of the exact date. But TPS says that she and EJ were talking and she mentioned that her cousin, CC, has the same record as Logan. And although she was the one that made copies of the paternity request paperwork, she says she didn't know that EJ had named her cousin.

She just continues to dig that hole deeper and deeper. I for one am LOVING it!:dance:

 

[Prof]

I don't think that's him, if you are talking about the guy who works security and lives in Albuquerque.

According to the public records searches the real CC also goes by an alias of D. Butler. It looks like that's his girlfriend or wife's last name:
http://www.publicrecordsnow.com/Search/SearchResults.aspx?vw=people&input=name&fn=craig&mn=b&ln=cherry&city=&state=AZ

Thanks for that new alias! I do think the MS page is him,though --the guy in the MS profile pic is the same guy here
http://www.azcorrections.gov/inmate...&LastName=CHERRY&FNMI=C&SearchType=SearchInet

He has lived in the same towns -- he has the same little brother named on your link as on his ms friend's list-- oh and the same mother

 

[not_my_kids]

I wonder if this would be the Agape in Nashville that was the agency they were using? And why not just report that family and stay within that agency?

http://www.agapenashville.org/
(This is not the only Agape adoption agency. I just liked the Nashville connection.)

 

[DairyGirl]

When questioned about the layover and how she met EJ when it seemed that EJ was looking a nanny prior to meeting her at the airport, TPS says that they had a baby about to be born, they were set up to adopt through Agape Adoption Agency and the other family asked for cash, but that's against the law, so they wouldn't go through with that adoption.
From FB: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1585061919
Is screen shotted and will be on it's way to LE, in case she changes that.

You notice how she never answers a question directly but deflects? She did not come out and say how she met EJ, only that they could have adopted another baby if they were willing to be unethical. And still claiming to have done the right thing in this situation, despite evidence to the contrary.