AZ - Gabriel Johnson, 8 months, 26 Dec 2009 - last seen in Texas - #7

[aim]

YES, YES, YES!! Why not? (I wish we could push the "thank you" button and it would show up!)

I really think that NG was planning on doing that tonight, though, and TPS circumvented everything by the jailhouse interview! REALLY - IMO - THAT IS WHAT TPS DID.

You could very well be right because it seems odd that she went to visit EJ right after that information about Craig Cherry came out. I guarantee you that if the tape of that interview comes out it will be similar to the taped conversations of Lee and Casey Anthony(code words).

I still can't understand how Nancy's producers aren't telling her that she is going to look foolish when it comes out that TS is "duping" Nancy GracE .

Nancy crucifies the wrong people. Remember how Nancy reacted when poor Crystal Sheffield said she didn't know what time her daughter got out of school?Talk about blaming the victim!!!

 

[what about this?]

Maybe while she's on her little "tour" some WSers should go for the Q&A session!

Or, maybe we could sign up for a three-day, all inclusive seminar in San Antonio --

we could hear about how she almost died from the blockage, and then during the question-and-answer period ----

 

[panthera]

How convenient. A missing laptop. I would think that any person who may have bought this would come forward. My guess is that no one will.

Really, what is the market right now for a USED laptop and how did she completely erase the hard drive before selling it? Most buyers would rather have a "new" computer, unless it's being sold dirt cheap. MOO

 

[time]

That was when they gave Gabe back, but thanks for adding this

So according to these statements -- EJ had never been over to the Smith's home? Is that right?

Wow ... that just gave me a different perspective. EJ never at the Smith's house? Is that so she couldn't tell Logan where Gabriel was? Would she have had to have known their address? It just makes me feel creepy anyone would take someone's baby and NOT insist they see their home.

BTW... isn't there a step sister who is short and has long blonde hair?

 

[W8nC]

YES, YES, YES!! Why not? (I wish we could push the "thank you" button and it would show up!)

I really think that NG was planning on doing that tonight, though, and TPS circumvented everything by the jailhouse interview! REALLY - IMO - THAT IS WHAT TPS DID.

I wonder if TPS called in tonight instead of appearing live because she was afraid NG would arrange to have her arrested live on the show, like aa couple posters mentioned today.

TPS keeps up with her FB all dang day, she probably reads a lot of what we post, too, or maybe delegates that part to JS...."just give me a summary, dear".

 

[allaster]

I think that was when they brought the baby back to her, before she left for San Antonio.
Also, when TPS was talking she mentioned the GPS and said that EJ had that when they dropped Gabriel at the church and that she must have had it programmed and knew where she was heading.
I do believe that it is possible that EJ found the San Antonio couple on her own. Not saying I believe everything TPS says but they may not be in this as deep as I originally thought. Why would EJ apologize to her about the problems this has brought if she knew TPS was in on the planning?

I can tell TS really wanted that baby. She hasn't dealt with that anger yet. I have a feeling EJ saw some of that anger and left TS promising to go through with everything as soon as she cleared things up with Logan, that was her out, she went with a back up plan and another set of parents, EJ seems like she was setting herself up for the first half of her plan by getting quick money selling her stuff she wasn't going to need to fund her trip to get rid of EJ to another family,taking the money she makes from the adoption and falling off the face of the Earth, leaving people to believe she and Gabriel are missing, but her plan fell through, if there is another couple involved I wonder if they didn't pull through and only gave her 500$ and took the baby from her in a threatening way leaving her helpless and scared. Now she is in jail the only place she is safe and there because of a series of stupid mistakes

 

[what about this?]

I think that was when they brought the baby back to her, before she left for San Antonio.
Also, when TPS was talking she mentioned the GPS and said that EJ had that when they dropped Gabriel at the church and that she must have had it programmed and knew where she was heading.
I do believe that it is possible that EJ found the San Antonio couple on her own. Not saying I believe everything TPS says but they may not be in this as deep as I originally thought. Why would EJ apologize to her about the problems this has brought if she knew TPS was in on the planning?

Because she trusted TPS and still does - I feel she is trying to protect TPS - just like TPS instructed her from the beginning. I really feel Elizabeth is afraid of the Smiths.

 

[momtective]

I believe they have the video - it's everywhere today. I also believe they have Gabriel or know where he is -- I mean, really -- TammiJack could not do or say more to incriminate themselves.

I've been told that they have video. This is part of an email from Yami.

"She was seen here with the baby at the hotel. there is video. there is video at a restaurant. i do believe the baby is alive and that an adoption agency here helped her out."

 

[capricorn]

Nancy G. is hindered by the Melinda Duckett lawsuit. Therefore, she's unable to do her job like she would have in past years. And therefore, she's not able to conduct interviews like she did back when we all loved watching her show.

At least, that's my opinion.

 

[allaster]

I think the Smith's thought they would be able to manipulate the entire situation and it blew up in there face.

 

[panthera]

I've been told that they have video. This is part of an email from Yami.

"She was seen here with the baby at the hotel. there is video. there is video at a restaurant. i do believe the baby is alive and that an adoption agency here helped her out."

Thanks! I also believe there would be videocameras in the hotel, it's just that I'd also think the video would be released so the public could help find this couple who supposedly have Gabriel. MOO

 

[aim]

Nancy G. is hindered by the Melinda Duckett lawsuit. Therefore, she's unable to do her job like she would have in past years. And therefore, she's not able to conduct interviews like she did back when we all loved watching her show.

At least, that's my opinion.

Good call, I never thought about it that way.

 

[what about this?]

I got that EJ told TS that her attorney told here the FBI had the video. Attorney tells EJ, EJ tells TS, TS tells NG.....so we still don't have anything reliable to go on.

However, maybe the new lawyer TOLD EJ to say that (and allowed this meeting at all), and maybe that is why this whole ridiculous scenario took place.

 

[pghbrandi]

Nancy G. is hindered by the Melinda Duckett lawsuit. Therefore, she's unable to do her job like she would have in past years. And therefore, she's not able to conduct interviews like she did back when we all loved watching her show.

At least, that's my opinion.

I hope that is true. I'd like to think NG is going crazy wanting to grill those two idiots and she just can't right now.
I would also love to believe that Logan is at home with Gabriel, happy and safe and we will all find out at the end it was just to get those three even more.

 

[Baznme]

Wierd. TPS says she was calling LE the DAY she took the first polygraph wanting to take another one. WHAT? Hmmmmm......she knew in advance that she screwed the first one up. She's guilty of something.

Good one!! .............LOL

 

[DairyGirl]

I've been told that they have video. This is part of an email from Yami.

"She was seen here with the baby at the hotel. there is video. there is video at a restaurant. i do believe the baby is alive and that an adoption agency here helped her out."

How could an adoption agency help her and it be an illegal adoption like she told TPS? I don't even see the point of signing papers. Who is going to see the papers? If this were done legal we wouldn't be in the place we are now, not knowing where Gabriel is.

 

[what about this?]

Good call, I never thought about it that way.

Well, then could she at least act a little less biased?

 

[W8nC]

However, maybe the new lawyer TOLD EJ to say that (and allowed this meeting at all), and maybe that is why this whole ridiculous scenario took place.

Ahhh, true. Maybe EJ is playing along in the game to trap TPS. Maybe NG is playing along as well.

 

[Baznme]

Nancy G. is hindered by the Melinda Duckett lawsuit. Therefore, she's unable to do her job like she would have in past years. And therefore, she's not able to conduct interviews like she did back when we all loved watching her show.

At least, that's my opinion.

I was very surprised when NG asked Tammi to be more specific about the things EJ said and she took the lonnnnnnng way around telling the story about how she forgot the conversation they had with her for 4 hours in the trailer..........(phew), that Nancy didn't come back with "that's not what I asked you". She never did answer Nancy's question. She danced all over NG's show tonight because she was trying like mad to keep the questions about her cousin's name being on those documents at bay.

 

[Prof]

Because she trusted TPS and still does - I feel she is trying to protect TPS - just like TPS instructed her from the beginning. I really feel Elizabeth is afraid of the Smiths.

I agree wholeheartedly -- EJ feels she owes the Smiths because she could not go through with the adoption for them as planned-- she feels she let them down --then they tried to help her anyway with her quest, and she let them down again -- got caught

There are just too many coincidences to not think that TS had a hand in some way if it was a connection that was two or three degrees of separation even in the illegal adoption in SA

Maybe we should start making a list of these coincidences in this case?



EJ says the couple promised to do the exact thing that Jack suggested someone might do -- keep Gabe under the radar and then enter him into the system later when he's older

Tammi was certified in 2007 in San Antonio one block from EJ's hotel

Tammi's cousin listed on paternity paperwork as possible father

and so on :crazy: the tammijack stamp on everything in this case