AZ - Isabel Mercedes Celis, 6, Tucson, 20 April 2012 - #14

[carole]

Are SC and the boys still living in their home, or are they in protective custody? That couch interview was another disturbing one, he kept repeating some phrases in most of his sentences. Instead of looking at the camera to talk directly to Isabel, he was looking around at the people in front of him, talking to them.

The family has not moved back into their home.

The boys are living with their mother and a relative. Don't know where Sergio is.

 

[Pensfan]

To be honest, any valuation of that home at 500K is outdated. I know. I live and own property here.

I think they purchased it in 2006 before the values crashed everywhere in 2008.

 

[PAXIMUS]

This may just be me, but this is starting to seem a little bit biased, talking about drug cartels, etc...would the same sort of thing be said if this family was not of Mexican descent? Is there any real reason, otherwise, to think this is even a likely scenario?

Please, are you suggesting it is racist to look in to this angle, if it is tell me now an I will just pack my up and go. That is a little much.

 

[pieper4]

So then the next question is, where is uncle/cousin J, and as an unemployed? where are all those pretty cars coming from,travel?boats? goodies in general??

And it's been inferred (maybe not documented) that Uncle Cousin resided in the family home until fairly recently. And how on earth was he on scene before TPD, if what we've seen/read is true? So, SOOOoooo hinky all around.

 

[pieper4]

I think they purchased it in 2006 before the values crashed everywhere in 2008.

Sorry, Pens... that home is not a 1/2 million dollar home. Not in that location. It is what it is I'm afraid. Our valuations are several years behind here. To the point that MANY homeowners are appealing the valuations.

 

[cluciano63]

Please, are you suggesting it is racist to look in to this angle, if it is tell me now an I will just pack my up and go. That is a little much.

No but I am wondering where the drug connection is coming from, is it from the charges Sergio had ten or so years ago? I'm just not sure. JMO

 

[Whisperer]

I don't see anything racist about associating drug cartels with Mexicans. This political correctness is getting ridiculous.

 

[Deleted member 718]

This is why I pointed out earlier it doesnt have to be about drugs, gun running is an extremely profitable business, its how they protect the drugs afterall.

Meh, I don't see gun dealers kidnapping kids in Tucson. It's more than that. A lot more than that, if this is the case.

imho

 

[fancyface]

The dad is George Anthony all over again!! yuck, I knew from the very moment I saw Sergio on tv that he was lying ,and involved. I suspect sexual abuse. I got this same vibe when I saw George Anthony for the first time on tv.

 

[cluciano63]

I don't see anything racist about drug cartels and Mexicans. This political correctness is getting ridiculous.

I don't have a problem with it either, if there is a link to the Celis' and drug selling or abuse...I know there were those charges some years back, but we've seen such things in other cases and I don't remember drug running or cartels coming into them too often. Anyway JMO...and I don't think that is what happened here. But who the H knows...

 

[PAXIMUS]

No but I am wondering where the drug connection is coming from, is it from the charges Sergio had ten or so years ago? I'm just not sure. JMO

Who said anything about drugs, the linked article is about guns and an operation called FAST AND FURIOUS.

 

[Dr. Know?]

Valuations of homes. I've followed one property that I thought was an eye popper of it's value, over priced at about $300K, it's now valued at $99K & on the market for a year almost now. yelp.

 

[katydid23]

No but I am wondering where the drug connection is coming from, is it from the charges Sergio had ten or so years ago? I'm just not sure. JMO

There have been rampant rumors locally from the start that the Celis family had some connections in that business. Pieper posted that article upthread about a major gun runner from Phoenix, with the family name of Celis. We do not have verification that it is the same family though.

 

[spoiledmom]

This is why I pointed out earlier it doesnt have to be about drugs, gun running is an extremely profitable business, its how they protect the drugs afterall.

Right. Drug cartels use those guns. It's all connected in some way. It's a circle of people that no parent should be involved in. Did you notice how he immediately offered a $50,000 reward? LE is definitely aware of some things that SC is involved with. I don't know the extent of it but I do know it's related to the cartel. I'm so glad others are putting it together.

 

[Whisperer]

LE is putting the pressure on Sergio. People can either agree or disagree that they are or that he is the perp. It looks like that is who is the focus.

 

[PAXIMUS]

Meh, I don't see gun dealers kidnapping kids in Tucson. It's more than that. A lot more than that, if this is the case.

imho

Do you know what Fast and Furious is, it is "more than that" my friend, MUCH MUCH MORE.

 

[simlyme]

This may just be me, but this is starting to seem a little bit biased, talking about drug cartels, etc...would the same sort of thing be said if this family was not of Mexican descent? Is there any real reason, otherwise, to think this is even a likely scenario?

Clu, theres a little girl missing STILL, every angle has to be looked at, its been said in many places that drugs or illigal activity could be involved, please lets not start the race thing here, it could very well be a likely scenario and NONE of us will like it if it is. This child needs to be found!

 

[winterrose]

I don't see anything wrong with looking at all angles in a case and it's LE that pulled this guy for the family's protection, so there's a reason for that. Whatever the reason, LE played a big hand with the release of 911 and taking him out of there. I see a possible arrest soon.

 

[pieper4]

This may just be me, but this is starting to seem a little bit biased, talking about drug cartels, etc...would the same sort of thing be said if this family was not of Mexican descent? Is there any real reason, otherwise, to think this is even a likely scenario?

I am personally not even thinking cartel. At all. And gawd no... my thought process has NOTHING to do with the family being of Hispanic/Mexican origin. This family is American in my mind - 100%. They may have relatives in Mexico. But I probably do, too. So do many officials in Arizona. And where is the focus of Fast 'n Furious?

 

[katydid23]

I don't have a problem with it either, if there is a link to the Celis' and drug selling or abuse...I know there were those charges some years back, but we've seen such things in other cases and I don't remember drug running or cartels coming into them too often. Anyway JMO...and I don't think that is what happened here. But who the H knows...

Read this article, and check out the name of the guy.
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/mar/19/nation/la-na-fast-furious-20120319



Remember how weird the first statements were from Sergio:" Tell us your demands" " Tell us what you want."

In the above article, they talk about an INFORMANT who snitched on a whole lot of people.