AZ - Isabel Mercedes Celis, 6, Tucson, 20 April 2012 - #16

[Anita Richman]

My daughters both could read and write in kindergarten. (Though they were spelling phonetically.) My younger, more dramatic daughter wrote (and writes) love notes and angry notes when she's mad. I even have a couple (written in first grade) where she wrote angry "fan" mail to Miley Cyrus for dancing inappropriately on t.v.

 

[Knox]

I think one of the reporters asked if they had lived there for at least 5 years, when it was asked if LE had been called out there before. The question wasn't answered.

From what I can see they are the only owners of the home. Bare lot purchased in 2006, home completed in 2007.

 

[Patty G]

I have seen pictures of three dogs at the Celis home. The boxer mix looking one, the old arthritic looking one and the little white one. The boxer mix looking one resembles the uncle/cousin's dog, but the white patch on chest is not there on both dogs.

I have never seen a photo of the third dog at the Celis' house; only the white one and the older dog.

 

[Patty G]

Prof, have you seen pics of the third dog at the Celis' house?

 

[mamamia54]

From what I can see they are the only owners of the home. Lot purchased in 2006, home completed in 2007.

So, if there were prior calls to that home, they would be the only ones the calls would have been about, unless of course someone else was living with them.

 

[callyn]

I have never seen a photo of the third dog at the Celis' house; only the white one and the older dog.

There's video and photos of the dog that looks to be a boxer mix through the front gate/door. It is partially open and this dog is seen through the opening. It looks a lot like the uncle/cousin's dog from his facebook, but it is not his dog, his dog has different markings.

My eyes are very bad today or I would try to find the photos/video. Sorry. It was discussed here about that dog and its resemblance to the uncle/cousin's dog.

 

[Anita Richman]

The LE that I've spoken with are Pima County sheriffs, so they have no inside info on the Celis disappearance. However, they all think "the dad did it". That may be just because of what statistics tell us.

I have heard NOTHING about LDTs, cartel involvement, prior CPS involvement. The only thing I have heard from people who actually KNOW the Celis' is: Becky Celis is a wonderful, kind woman and is much loved.

 

[Prof]

I have seen pictures of three dogs at the Celis home. The boxer mix looking one, the old arthritic looking one and the little white one. The boxer mix looking one resembles the uncle/cousin's dog, but the white patch on chest is not there on both dogs.

Where is the pic of the boxer mix at the Celis home?
TIA

I have kept my eye out this whole case for this. JM's FB, RC's FB, all media and every thread here. I have only seen JM's dog in JM's pics.
The old arthritic dog is the same dog seen in Patty's pic and all the media pics of the dog at the gate/door.
I don't know how I could have missed that, but anything is possible.

 

[LisaB]

---- Looking into JM's FB and MS site's it appears he is no stranger to going adventure hunting at ski resorts, rocky point, washington state and Rock Crawling in the Jeep.. So Kinda sets the motion for being capable of hiding Isa somewhere at a cabin or dumping her off in a remote location in the Northern AZ hills or Somewhere out in the desert. His vanishing off the face of the earth after being interviewed yet not eliminated doe's kinda spark a question... And... Hate to bring it up again but from comparing several of his face pics his face has taken some changes in weight.. could be a tweaker .. IDK also those wondering what it looks like and if you think a kid would eat it.. heres a pic.. and in a baggy would maybe be appealing as sugar candy, it don't take much in hard form to OD.

I see that it LOOKS like some sort of sugar, but would a child taste it and spit it out, or would they like it enough to swallow it?

 

[Whisperer]

Now we have prior CPS AND prior LE calls to the house. My money is on one of the boys having troubles.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Most elementary school students begin journaling very early in their academic careers these days. Depending on when the "note" (if it exists) was written, Isabel might have had basic "writing" skills for telling a story with words and pictures. :moo:

 

[mamamia54]

Now we have prior CPS and prior LE calls to the house. My money is on one of the boys having troubles.

You know what hit me today. Remember the 911 call with Sergio, saying that the older boy was in the backyard looking for his sister, and the younger one was waiting in the garage for his mother to return home? Then the other 911 call where it's the younger one that is somewhere down the street and has to be driven back home, and he's the other 911 caller? Either I heard that wrong, or the younger one that was suppose to be in the garage, ran off down the street.

 

[Prof]

Prof, have you seen pics of the third dog at the Celis' house?

No, and I have specificaly searched and kept my eye out for the three dogs since the start of this case, as I had to explain on an early thread that there were 3 dogs cited....lol I was looking for proof and have not found any pics except for these two dogs.

I wondered if they got rid of one after the charges...

 

[nursebeeme]

Seems like there has been trouble in paradise for a while.

Just my opinion... but it seems to me that LE knows what happened.. also bet they have been meeting with the SA

(moo)


what I cannot figure out though is why there are no more searches and why the search area has not been widened... perhaps it has been.. these guys seem to play it really close to the vest (and the reporting has been bare bones... nothing else 'investigative' in nature)

 

[Knox]

Pressor-

http://www.kvoa.com/videos/raw-police-hold-news-conference-on-isabel-celis-disappearance/

Never mind! It cut out just like it did live, arrgghh!

 

[Patty G]

There's video and photos of the dog that looks to be a boxer mix through the front gate/door. It is partially open and this dog is seen through the opening. It looks a lot like the uncle/cousin's dog from his facebook, but it is not his dog, his dog has different markings.

My eyes are very bad today or I would try to find the photos/video. Sorry. It was discussed here about that dog and its resemblance to the uncle/cousin's dog.

I posted the photo of the dog at the front gate a few posts back. If you can find the photo of the other dog, that would be wonderful. TIA

The picture that I posted is from a video.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Just got back after several hours...hate to ask this, but could someone plz give me any update? Was anything new at all announced at the presser? TIA...I

You didn't really miss anything. Very little new information. One step forward; two steps backward. :moo:

 

[Prof]

There's video and photos of the dog that looks to be a boxer mix through the front gate/door. It is partially open and this dog is seen through the opening. It looks a lot like the uncle/cousin's dog from his facebook, but it is not his dog, his dog has different markings.

My eyes are very bad today or I would try to find the photos/video. Sorry. It was discussed here about that dog and its resemblance to the uncle/cousin's dog.

Yes, but we showed back then that that was the same yellow shep mix in every video. This was back in a few threads...
The shot you are describing is that same dog we see limping in a recent video.

 

[Eileen730]

Most elementary school students begin journaling very early in their academic careers these days. Depending on when the "note" (if it exists) was written, Isabel might have had basic "writing" skills for telling a story with words and pictures. :moo:

Im just saying its not going to be a long detailed note and childrens pictures
can tell an entire story!

JMO

 

[johnQpublic]

I see that it LOOKS like some sort of sugar, but would a child taste it and spit it out, or would they like it enough to swallow it?

If a child were to even get a fingernail size amount in thier mouth very unlikely they could spit it out all be it a yucky substance it would dissolve rather quickly in the saliva.. So no.. it would be a sudden mishap... Not only that but a very tiny tiny amount of this drug could be an overdose as a pinky nail size amount is enough for a user to be spun for a day.