AZ - Isabel Mercedes Celis, 6, Tucson, 20 April 2012 - #17

[SmoothOperator]

So how do we know this is the top Isa was wearing when she was abducted.:waitasec:

Our granddaughers have a gazillion pink tops.

Of course its not the pink top that Sergio stated in the 911*call due to the fact Sergio was misteken in the first place and it was quickly corrected by mom.. but even if ya wanna stick withSergios statement he clearly stated that it as a pink tank top..

Moo but the entire statements being attached to this photo that has a totally innocent and unrelated female face now pasted across pages of a crimesleuthing website. The statements are extremely misleading and IMO will do so much more bad than good in leading down and absolutely irrelevant dead end path..this event and therefore any photos of this event took place prior to Isa's abduction.. anyone not believe these photos are NOT WHAT/WHEN THEY ARE NOW BEING STATED TO BE ?

Google around in the isa celis media andnews related articles and images. You'll quickly see there are numerous photos from this same night this one with the female was made...AND THEY ARE ALL PRIOR TO ISA'S ABDUCTION..:banghead:

 

[pinkfly]

It looks to me like it was taken in January, or at least that is when the color profile was assigned to that file.

 

[white rabbit]

Trying to catch up now. In the PDF of the 911 tapes there are times 0848 hrs (ending at 1016 hrs) was what was logged for SC call and for the son's call it was 0857 hrs (ending at 0920 hrs). Does anyone have a link where I can find the full 911 calls? I've looked and the only ones I can find right now are the ones that are in bits and pieces.

those are the times of the tpd's postings, not the times of the calls.

http://cms3.tucsonaz.gov/files/poli..._911_audio_ref_isabel_celis_investigation.pdf

go to one of the local sites for the audio...

 

[mamamia54]

It looks to me like it was taken in January, or at least that is when the color profile was assigned to that file.

My gosh, I had no clue you could get info that way.

 

[callyn]

Ok so it was not taken in April at all?

NO!:banghead:

 

[callyn]

My gosh, I had no clue you could get info that way.

and, if the GPS is enabled on the phone, the LOCATION of the photo is also available!

 

[prima.facie]

Trying to catch up now. In the PDF of the 911 tapes there are times 0848 hrs (ending at 1016 hrs) was what was logged for SC call and for the son's call it was 0857 hrs (ending at 0920 hrs). Does anyone have a link where I can find the full 911 calls? I've looked and the only ones I can find right now are the ones that are in bits and pieces.

Where did you find those times?
Because to me it looked like those were the times that the 911 script was typed out because before the 0920 it had the date of May 14th....

just wondering where I overlooked the times of the call....

 

[pinkfly]

My gosh, I had no clue you could get info that way.

I right clicked to copy the image to my desktop and then went to exifdata.com and uploaded the image and it gave me that info.

Best place for quick info.

 

[mamamia54]

and, if the GPS is enabled on the phone, the LOCATION of the photo is also available!

Holy ....!! That's way cool.

 

[Prof]

Ok so it was not taken in April at all?

I doubt it since one cannot back date a posting of a pic on FB.

 

[mck16]

NO!:banghead:

Not being a smart a, but is there a full moon tonight?:maddening: This is not directed at you callyn, just agreeing with you, if you get what I mean. jmo

 

[Shelby2]

NO!:banghead:

Take it easy, I was asking Prof that question 20 minutes ago. Very sorry I was confused about where the picture came from at first.

 

[prima.facie]

My gosh, I had no clue you could get info that way.

I analyze photos.....often....for another website....

Anyways, EXIF data used to be 100% reliable; However, now people have learned how to manipulate it.....resulting in obvious issues....

Im a foresnic major and im pretty anal about getting stuff 100% accurate (thus my screen name).....and I can tell you that analyzing photos is no longer a 100% accurate "science".....well anything in forensics has its flaws...

It is still very important though to check when needed because not everyone knows how to maniuplate the data....and you can obtain absolute results many times

 

[jennapuppy]

I asked this earlier, but it may have been overlooked in all the FB drama:
Who is Uncle Louis and how does he enter into the family dynamics at the time of Isabel's disappearance?
TIA

 

[Gardenlady]

Fwiw, I looked at the comments u der that photo, and none of them say "thank god she is home" or whatever. The closest one was something like "my god, let her return home soon".

:crazy:

 

[SmoothOperator]

Not being a smart a, but is there a full moon tonight?:maddening: This is not directed at you callyn, just agreeing with you, if you get what I mean. jmo

:banghead::banghead::..and on and on and on....:banghead:

 

[bessie]

:seeya: No posting photos without links unless you own them. And no posting non-MSM photos of subjects whose identities cannot be verified. Photos of minors are never allowed unless the minor is a victim in a case, or on the rare occasion when a suspect is a minor, and the photo is from MSM.

MSM photos are almost always okay to post with a link. Photos from public websites are usually okay, with a link. Photos from a business's FB page or a public website are usually okay, as well, with a link. Photos on an individual's social media page are not okay.

Any of the mods will be happy to answer questions sent via pm. :tyou:

ETA: If you reply to a post that you know violates TOS, please do not quote it in your post.

 

[Patty G]

I asked this earlier, but it may have been overlooked in all the FB drama:
Who is Uncle Louis and how does he enter into the family dynamics at the time of Isabel's disappearance?
TIA

Uncle Louis is the brother to RC. He was at work when he learned Isa was missing. He did an interview on Jane's show a week or so ago.

 

[Prof]

Trying to catch up now. In the PDF of the 911 tapes there are times 0848 hrs (ending at 1016 hrs) was what was logged for SC call and for the son's call it was 0857 hrs (ending at 0920 hrs). Does anyone have a link where I can find the full 911 calls? I've looked and the only ones I can find right now are the ones that are in bits and pieces.

Those times? they have dates next to them...May 14 I think it was...
those date and times are when the audio was trancribed /redacted by LE.
Those are not the time stamps for the call.

 

[mck16]

Fwiw, I looked at the comments u der that photo, and none of them say "thank god she is home" or whatever. The closest one was something like "my god, let her return home soon".:crazy:

I figured that was what it said. Nothing else would make sense. jmo