AZ - Isabel Mercedes Celis, 6, Tucson, 20 April 2012 - #18

[winterrose]

Here's the NBC interview and it has a living room with the tv and a living room with Isa.

Celis NBC interview - YouTube

 

[Lark2]

Something else that's HUGELY different about this case and Sierra laMarr's case: Sierra's parents have worked tirelessly - TIRELESSLY - to find their daughter. They are at the search center all the time and have appeared on media countless times making the case for finding their daughter, even in the face of WITHERING crticicism that the boyfrend might be involved. They've held their heads high and stayed focused on what mattered.

Where are RC and SC?? Where are they? RC appears at one candelight event and along with her sister-in-law, end up defending SC.

When was the last time these two appeared at the search center set up to find their daughter??? I'll tell you when - TWO WEEKS AGO! They appeared one time during the first week and then two weeks later, and that was the last time anyone has seen them there.

 

[mamamia54]

Ok here's that photo of Isa on the sofa, and the two doorways behind her brightened up and enlarged.

 

[callyn]

I brightened it up, looks like both go into other rooms? Either that or a closet with a mirror on the front, or a bathroom door with a mirror on the front, hold on let me try to blow this pic up a big.

I bet it's a glass door leading outside. There's a window there that makes me think it goes to the outside.

 

[cluciano63]

I truly do not understand the parents not speaking out to media every chance they get, when LE is practically begging them to do so, so we know it is not being prevented by them. So what if they are annoyed that they are being scrutinized, etc...this is their little girl and she is GONE. Who is speaking out about Isabel at all???

 

[oceanblueeyes]

wow, still not caught up on this very long tread, but wanted to add my :twocents: for what it is worth, lol....

It's possible that whoever took Isa was already in the house when the Cellis's came home from the baseball game. If he/she entered through the window, I too have a hard time imagining he/she leaving through the window with Isa (seems like it would be very difficult to me). As a mom, I hear my 7 year old little one all night long (bathroom, gettting a drink, etc.) so I can't imagine not hearing someone enter our house. Hubby, on the other hand, sleeps through everything, so it's possible Mr. Cellis slept through this. Dogs mean nothing to me as I have read about many abductions where dogs have been in the house. However, i have two very hyper beagles and I am certain if anybody got close to our house, they would bark like mad!!! On the other hand, if somebody entered my daughters bedroom, in and out the window, they may not have a clue since they are gated on the main floor. The Cellis's live in a one story home though, you would think the dogs would have barked! Oh geez, this is all so ???? to me, what happened to this beautiful little girl and why can't anybody find her? My heart is still broken!

COME HOME SAFE AND SOON BEAUTIFUL ISA!

The point about being away from the home that night has been made previously but not lately so thank you for bringing it to my attention again.

I find that uncanny. That the very night Isa was taken the entire family was away at the ball field for hours. More than ample time to enter the home, case the floor plan out, and hide and plenty of time to make friends with the dogs. I have never seen a dog that doesnt love treats.

Also I cant shake that all three dogs got out of the yard just one week before Isa went missing. I also agree with you about the dogs being in the home and that means nothing to me because dogs are unpredictable and we have seen dogs in the home (even supposedly aggressive ones) where other children were kidnapped right under the nose of the adults inside.

We know that someone could see inside Isa's bedroom because the neighbor said she looked in the window from where she stood on the outside of the Celis property wall. So had someone been coming in that breezeway to watch Isa's bedroom before they went in? They would even be able to see the set up of her room to be able to get around without bumping into something.

When my friend and her husband was robbed and pistol whipped LE told them they found evidence that the perps (3) had been casing the house out from the alley that sat right behind their home.

I am a very light sleeper but my hubby is like your hubby and when he goes to sleep nothing wakes him up but the blaring alarm clock in the morning! lol

Many criminals invade homes and the people inside dont even know they are there. That is why some of them are called cat burglars because they can creep around inside as quiet as a cat.

I remember in the trial of the main murderer of the Petit family they said he would enter homes at night and sit there and watch people as they lay there sleeping.:what:

 

[Jayarre]

Here's the NBC interview and it has a living room with the tv and a living room with Isa.

Celis NBC interview - YouTube

This interview was at the hotel that NBC paid for.

 

[MBK]

I brightened it up, looks like both go into other rooms? Either that or a closet with a mirror on the front, or a bathroom door with a mirror on the front, hold on let me try to blow this pic up a big.

Interesting. Now, is this the couch where Sergio was supposedly sleeping? There would seem to be 3 doorways leading off this room. I think that the door behind her has a mirror on it. The door seems to be closed. There may be a small end table with a lamp on top of it (???) between the end of the sofa and the wall between two of the doors. In other words, sort of a crowded space, the flow to the rooms on the far side is not "easy".

 

[elmomom]

That sure seems to be a lot of wasted living space.

I dont think I have ever seen a home that has:

1. Living Room
2. Family Room
3. Den

Well, the kitchen is not eat-in and the breakfast nook looks fairly small, and I see the floor plan indicates a large living room. I bet it actually includes a dining room. My guess is that a family of five would use it as such. This would be the half of the living room on the right side of the entry way.
Also, the den may in fact be used or planned to be used as a spare bedroom or guest room. Because of code restrictions such as windows, closets etc, it can't be labelled as that, but code officers don't check what you actually do end up using it for. So the way I see it they have a 3 bedroom house with a guest room/office, a family room and a small formal living room and small formal dining room. I would say that is a pretty standard house built in the 2000's.

 

[Patty G]

Ok here's that photo of Isa on the sofa, and the two doorways behind her brightened up and enlarged.

It seems odd to have a window in that room.

 

[jennapuppy]

Yep. I asked about that several threads ago. Still wondering, lol.


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This fund was established at RC's place of employment. It states that the donated funds will be used to assist in the search efforts, and to "support the family". I have not been able to find out what falls under the umbrella of "supporting" the family.

 

[mamamia54]

It seems odd to have a window in that room.

I know, and even looking at it enlarged, it's still odd that window. Unless it's a screen door with the one section of the screen pushed open?

 

[Madeleine74]

LE has given a rough idea of how they are allotting resources.

Going strictly from memory, they have 4 investigators looking at the family and 12-14 investigators looking outside of the family.

That seems to me to indicate LE has not yet been able to zero in conclusively one way or the other. Others have argued differently.

And go ahead, throw some more disdain my way.

Disdain?

Why is it when a scenario is discussed and debated it's seen as a personal attack?

The topic was looking for an uncommon 'zebra' versus looking at the more typical 'horse' when the sound of hooves is heard. i.e. Occam's Razor. I mentioned finite LE resources because there isn't an endless number of police and detectives and they have to prioritize.

The allocation of LE resources doesn't tell us how much LE is looking at uncommon or rare scenarios. Looking at the family versus outside the family seems pretty common. With 500 RSOs to wade through, that would take a good number of cops. They have to rule out RSOs (maybe they're done by now, I don't know). 4 or so detectives investigating inside (i.e. the family) seems significant. How many family members are there to be investigated? 10? 12? 15?

If I were in LE I'd go where the evidence, facts, and information led me. If there's a more logical way to proceed I'm not aware of it.

 

[Cardinal47]

LE has given a rough idea of how they are allotting resources.

Going strictly from memory, they have 4 investigators looking at the family and 12-14 investigators looking outside of the family.

That seems to me to indicate LE has not yet been able to zero in conclusively one way or the other. Others have argued differently.

And go ahead, throw some more disdain my way.

Oh gee and I thought we were waiting for an arrest...any day. Now it looks like they don't know anymore than we do. Sad, very sad.

 

[paris_paris]

Ok here's that photo of Isa on the sofa, and the two doorways behind her brightened up and enlarged.

Right behind her is the doorway to the patio. To the right you see a corner where the room extends to the breakfast nook. The window is the breakfast nook. On the left looks like a mirror. When you watch the video you can see the reflection of her arm waving. Behind the couch is the kitchen.

 

[MBK]

I know, and even looking at it enlarged, it's still odd that window. Unless it's a screen door with the one section of the screen pushed open?

No, I'd say it is a normal window, white aluminum framed, I'd guess, opened from the bottom. I like the detailing around the doors, the wood trim, but the windows lack that, so it looks a bit incongruous, but it's not a screen door, it's a window. Also, it just seems to be the modern style with lots of people not to have drapes, so maybe that might throw you off. But I'd say it's a window.

Do we believe that NONE of the doors in this room lead off to Isabel's bedroom?

 

[mamamia54]

No, I'd say it is a normal window, white aluminum framed, I'd guess, opened from the bottom. I like the detailing around the doors, the wood trim, but the windows lack that, so it looks a bit incongruous, but it's not a screen door, it's a window. Also, it just seems to be the modern style with lots of people not to have drapes, so maybe that might throw you off. But I'd say it's a window.

Do we believe that NONE of the doors in this room lead off to Isabel's bedroom?

I honestly couldn't say because no matter how I manipulate the picture, I'm not able to see whats inside the other room except for a window which looks like it has curtains on it.

 

[Patty G]

I know, and even looking at it enlarged, it's still odd that window. Unless it's a screen door with the one section of the screen pushed open?

It appears to be a window as it has a window ledge.

 

[Deleted member 718]

That on the left is a mirror. When you watch the video you can see the reflection of her arm waving.

Looks like the window is open a few inches.

 

[mamamia54]

Ok I'm just looking at the real video now, yes, whatever is there on the left isn't another room, because you can see Isa's arm keep being reflected in it, so could that actually be a sliding glass door on the left? Door closed of course and window reflecting Isa's arm?