AZ - Isabel Mercedes Celis, 6, Tucson, 20 April 2012 - #19

[winterrose]

:waitasec:
The video in question was aired weeks ago....the ABC video linked was from weeks ago...NG came up with this idea of Isa usually sleeping with her brothers the first week Isa went missing.

I know, I meant ABC has been in the town digging for info, doubt they're getting it from NG. They probably got it straight from someone there.

 

[Lark2]

Lol, maybe NG got it from ABC...

Or, maybe they saw it and called their own sources for confirmation. Reporters at these stations all have inside contacts.

 

[winterrose]

You really can't tell from the video shown on the news, I have not been able to find any tripoded RAW FULL footage anywhere of the in and out activity of LE. The media only ever showed a few segments where officers were going in and out at the onset of the investigation. They very well may have taken a computer, it's really hard to tell and it wouldn't be out of the norm to take the computer just to grab an image of the harddrive and return it.

I see, I was wondering if maybe something from a computer in the home could have been the cause of CPS being called in by LE.

 

[RavenTrue]

Sorry, have little time here. Did you say that Isa slept with her brothers...in that huge freakin house? Wow.

Is this against terms of TOS? if so, mods delete.

 

[RavenTrue]

Except it is a murder charge

Zactly clu, as always. I revere you (though you may not know). Am always involved in several cases. Then you come in with the truth of it. Love ya!
:rocker:

 

[RavenTrue]

so where did sleeping arrangement commentary come from if I may ask?

 

[Prof]

The only reason some of us seemed to post about this old rumor is the post that made it sound like there was a source finally identified.
That's why I noticed it.

Sheesh, these big national networks could have said LE or relatives or friends or neighbors...just to maintain some inch of credibility.
Really who would know their sleeping habits?
The family has not been giving out any details.
LE has not been giving out any details.

 

[ingra1327]

so where did sleeping arrangement commentary come from if I may ask?

As far as I can tell, the sleeping arrangement info comes from sources that have yet to be named per ABC and NG.

 

[RavenTrue]

As far as I can tell, the sleeping arrangement info comes from sources that have yet to be named per ABC and NG.

Not that there's anything funny about this, but if ABC (and certainly NG) then IMO it has NO basis. However, it is thoughtful..

I thank you for the update, and not skirting the issue.

 

[ingra1327]

BBM
I thought this quote from an investigator in the Sierra Lamar case (spoken after the suspect had been arrested) was interesting in it's stark contrast to TPD's lack of search efforts. It makes me think they either believe Isa is alive, or they have reason to think they'll be able to find her if she isn't alive.

"We have probable cause to believe that he committed the kidnapping and murder of Sierra LaMar," Smith said. "We have not found Sierra yet. We're asking the public to continue - please look for her, please find Sierra for us."

 

[Prof]

So anyway, trying to get to the bottom of another one of MSM's unnamed sources here lol ....here's the local ABC affiliate reporting in an article posted on 4/23

Littlehorn, who joined other family friends at a police command post, said authorities separated the two parents for hours Saturday as they questioned them. She said it was difficult for them knowing their little girl was out there somewhere.

"She hasn't been allowed to help look for her daughter," Littlehorn said of Becky Celis.

Littlehorn has worked with Becky Celis as a registered nurse at Tucson Medical Center for five years. She said Isabel, whose nickname is Isa, loved to play baseball and dance; the girl was supposed to play in a baseball game Saturday.

"She's just the sweetest, she is feisty, she's full of life and spirit," Littlehorn said.

She said Becky Celis is a registered nurse in the pediatrics unit and Sergio Celis is a dental hygienist. There's no way anyone in the family is involved in the disappearance, she said.

"We all feel this is somebody who's been watching `Isa' for some amount of time to know where her bedroom is," Littlehorn said.

Read more: http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/regio...arch-for-6-year-old-tucson-girl#ixzz1va1CDlND

BBM



IMO This sort of contradicts the idea that Isa normally slept with her brothers. She seems to be saying their group of friends think this...that would mean Isa slept in her own room IMO

Of course, this friend is also calling Sergio a dental hygenist, and we know that's not true, but she seems to be speaking for the group of friends closest to family.

I'll be sure to check the readers' comments on each article too

 

[RavenTrue]

That is possible, and LE would want some sort of back-up, if so.

Such a large prestigious house...surely same for neighborhood. They do have/can afford cameras there, right? :seeya:

 

[GutFeeling!]

BBM

But the link above posted by Dee10 is a report by ABC stating that Isabel usually slept with her brothers - I wouldn't think ABC gets its information from Nancy Grace.

No but Nancy Grace and her plethora of wanna be producers might take it from ABC.

 

[RavenTrue]

So anyway, trying to get to the bottom of another one of MSM's unnamed sources here lol ....here's the local ABC affiliate reporting in an article posted on 4/23

Read more: http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/regio...arch-for-6-year-old-tucson-girl#ixzz1va1CDlND

BBM



IMO This sort of contradicts the idea that Isa 'normally' slept with her brothers. She seems to be saying their group of friends think this...that would mean Isa slept in her own room IMO

Of course, this friend is also calling Sergio a dental hygenist, and we know that's not true, but she seems to be speaking for the group of friends closest to family.

I'll be sure to check the readers' comments on each article too

In NO way am I calling Mom and Dad into blame other than their choice of judgement as to where Isa may sleep as brothers have grown older. STILL, not saying that is the answer. But I will say, if it did happen, BAD choice.
If Mom didn't understand, then surely Dad would. Testosterone is what it is.
God help them if that is the case....

 

[azmary]

As far as I can tell, the sleeping arrangement info comes from sources that have yet to be named per ABC and NG.

The sleeping arrangement comment came from RC in on of her interviews. She is the one that stated IC slept with the brothers. So this may not even be true since it is part of her story.

 

[Prof]

The sleeping arrangement comment came from RC in on of her interviews. She is the one that stated IC slept with the brothers. So this may not even be true since it is part of her story.

She has done two interviews with SC. I don't recall her speaking about where Isa sleeps. Which interview?

 

[GutFeeling!]

The sleeping arrangement comment came from RC in on of her interviews. She is the one that stated IC slept with the brothers. So this may not even be true since it is part of her story.

I don't remember that AzMary, do you have a link for that please? I don't remember her saying anything too personal in nature in regards to Isabel.

 

[Prof]

Here is the link that has Part One and Part Two of the interview the parents did with the local media --
http://www.kgun9.com/news/local/150175035.html

Here is the link that has the Today show interview with the parents
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/47277508#.T6LRtFJeuSp

HTH

It might restore my faith in the media if we could get a source for that particular tidbit

 

[spoiledmom]

I see, I was wondering if maybe something from a computer in the home could have been the cause of CPS being called in by LE.

Well there was a slip by Sergio's friend on Nancy Grace talking about how he needed to get off the phone quickly. NG seemed to think the friend was told by Sergio that his phones were tapped. The friend then told NG that he didn't know why SC wanted off the phone so fast but it kind of seemed like he had put his foot in his mouth and retracted his earlier statement. This was the day after the boys were taken away. It's very possible LE got information from tapping the phones and SC figured it out. Maybe they have been getting information that led them to fear for the boys safety?

 

[crystalgenie]

Why is this one of the most snarky and nasty threads on here currently?

You guys are going to get banned or timed out. I am not a mod but I see irt happen all the time. Please do not get the thread shutdown.

I don't believe that the mother or father had anything to do with it or I would have to believe that both of them did.

Susan Smith was a most excellent actress when the police were on to her the entire time. Noone was on to her but the police.

Noone knows how anyone is going to act on a 911 call. I would be hysterical, my brother (a cop) would be able calm and collected.

Everyone in Isa's house would be out looking for her.

Could Isa's father be covering for someone else in the house? That is always a possibility too.

Could he have done something to Isa? Yes, but so could anyone else in the house. I do not think we have enough evidence to do anything but speculate.

Could drugs be involved, as in owing someone money? Ofcourse.

Could a family friend, associate, or anyone else with access to the family and an idea of their schedule have abducted Isa? Ofcourse.

My only wish is that everyone on here would accept that we are all theorizing until we have some solid proof from the LE.

MHO and JMO!!!