AZ - Isabel Mercedes Celis, 6, Tucson, 20 April 2012 - # 4

[Aura]

Hi all. Long time reader, first time poster...

Im here in Tucson. Everyone here is trying to find that girl. The one thing about Tucson, we try and take care of eachother and be there for support and help.

I do not know the family at all, I know someone who works with the dad, and everything that I have heard is that the family are wonderful, caring people. Their children were always with them for gatherings, and that Isabel is a loving happy child. Of course the parents are going to be looked at first, and remain POI, but I really thing the parents have nothing to do with this. I agree with a poster above, that if it is the parents, I will eat my keyboard. But everything I have heard have been good about the parents.

It is a very suspicious case, and I think it might have been someone close to the family who knew their ins and outs... butI dont think it was the parents at all .

 

[oceanblueeyes]

IA. Steven Harper, Canada’s Prime Minister, recently announced that beginning January 1, 2013, parents with children who have died or disappeared as a result of a crime will be eligible to receive income support if they take time off work to cope with their loss.

The new income support benefit will provide $350 per week for up to 35 weeks for parents of murdered or missing children who are younger than 18 years old, and whose death or disappearance is the result of a Criminal Code offence.

The government says the benefit will help more than 1,000 parents annually, basing those numbers on a 2008 Statistics Canada crime survery. The total number of youth who were victims of homicide, other offences causing death, kidnapping and abduction was 1,229 in 2008, according to Statistics Canada.

http://news.ca.msn.com/top-stories/parents-of-killed-or-missing-kids-to-get-income-help

This is wonderful. I wish our country would do the same. A lot of people cant do without their income and often have other children and family to support.

It seems Canada doesnt skew their statisitics. I have always felt our country does to make it appear things like this rarely happen.

Plus so many children are missing and never found. Until the victim and the perp is found and convicted they arent added to any statistical base.

IMO

 

[KaylynnCouture]

HLN is covering the family presser live in 20 min.

 

[tlcya]

Hi all. Long time reader, first time poster...

Im here in Tucson. Everyone here is trying to find that girl. The one thing about Tucson, we try and take care of eachother and be there for support and help.

I do not know the family at all, I know someone who works with the dad, and everything that I have heard is that the family are wonderful, caring people. Their children were always with them for gatherings, and that Isabel is a loving happy child. Of course the parents are going to be looked at first, and remain POI, but I really thing the parents have nothing to do with this. I agree with a poster above, that if it is the parents, I will eat my keyboard. But everything I have heard have been good about the parents.

It is a very suspicious case, and I think it might have been someone close to the family who knew their ins and outs... butI dont think it was the parents at all .

:welcome5: Aura, glad you finally decided to post. thank you for giving us your perspective as a local. It helps so much when our local members are able to add info that gives us an idea about the community and the environment where this is all taking place.

I hope you will continue to share your thoughts with us.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Hi all. Long time reader, first time poster...

Im here in Tucson. Everyone here is trying to find that girl. The one thing about Tucson, we try and take care of eachother and be there for support and help.

I do not know the family at all, I know someone who works with the dad, and everything that I have heard is that the family are wonderful, caring people. Their children were always with them for gatherings, and that Isabel is a loving happy child. Of course the parents are going to be looked at first, and remain POI, but I really thing the parents have nothing to do with this. I agree with a poster above, that if it is the parents, I will eat my keyboard. But everything I have heard have been good about the parents.

It is a very suspicious case, and I think it might have been someone close to the family who knew their ins and outs... butI dont think it was the parents at all .

Thanks for your thoughtful first post and welcome to Websleuths

 

[oceanblueeyes]

:seeya: You are probably right !

:moo: JMO, but I am interested in seeing their "body language" ... "reactions" ... ... ...

:innocent:

I really hate to see them come forward actually. I have seen how unmercifal some can be when parents do speak out.

Just like the news reporter on HLN just said .......when they come forth they will be critized and scrutinized one way or another.......

imo

 

[gitana1]

Hi all. Long time reader, first time poster...

Im here in Tucson. Everyone here is trying to find that girl. The one thing about Tucson, we try and take care of eachother and be there for support and help.

I do not know the family at all, I know someone who works with the dad, and everything that I have heard is that the family are wonderful, caring people. Their children were always with them for gatherings, and that Isabel is a loving happy child. Of course the parents are going to be looked at first, and remain POI, but I really thing the parents have nothing to do with this. I agree with a poster above, that if it is the parents, I will eat my keyboard. But everything I have heard have been good about the parents.

It is a very suspicious case, and I think it might have been someone close to the family who knew their ins and outs... butI dont think it was the parents at all .

:fireworks::welcome::fireworks:

 

[Anita Richman]

Hi all. Long time reader, first time poster...

Im here in Tucson. Everyone here is trying to find that girl. The one thing about Tucson, we try and take care of eachother and be there for support and help.

I do not know the family at all, I know someone who works with the dad, and everything that I have heard is that the family are wonderful, caring people. Their children were always with them for gatherings, and that Isabel is a loving happy child. Of course the parents are going to be looked at first, and remain POI, but I really thing the parents have nothing to do with this. I agree with a poster above, that if it is the parents, I will eat my keyboard. But everything I have heard have been good about the parents.

It is a very suspicious case, and I think it might have been someone close to the family who knew their ins and outs... butI dont think it was the parents at all .

Welcome, Aura! I'm also a local. Thanks for posting, I don't know anyone who knows the dad, so it's good to hear some positive from that side, too.

Yesterday, as I was driving away from the command center/volunteer tent I was overcome with the thought that our town is just recovering from losing "our daughter" Christina-Taylor Green and now we're searching in a landfill for another daughter.

 

[nursebeeme]

welcome Aura! :cheer:

 

[nursebeeme]

I really hate to see them come forward actually. I have seen how unmercifal some can be when parents do speak out.

Just like the news reporter on HLN just said .......when they come forth they will be critized and scrutinized one way or another.......

imo

I personally am going to be paying attention to the style of their address... something that the chief said yesterday made me think they had wanted to talk to the BSU before the parents made a statement (re: possible perp profile)

 

[dog.gone.cute]

Same here! I remember thinking Terri Horman was VERY hinky in the first presser. We had no idea what was to follow at that time!!!

:rocker: Yes she was ... OMG ... I can still visualize the hinky-dinky manner in which she was looking at Desiree, and the hinky "body language" ...

15 minutes ... til showtime !

:moo:

 

[Anita Richman]

I personally am going to be paying attention to the style of their address... something that the chief said yesterday made me think they had wanted to talk to the BSU before the parents made a statement (re: possible perp profile)

Me too!! The fact that they've changed their mind about speaking to the press only hours after BAU has come leads me to think it's related.

 

[Jezbel]

I personally am going to be paying attention to the style of their address... something that the chief said yesterday made me think they had wanted to talk to the BSU before the parents made a statement (re: possible perp profile)

I had a similar thought Nurse, I think overall they wanted to wait also and let the BSU Team advise them on how/what to say to the media. If they do have a profile I expect there would be certain things they would want/not want the parents to say.

JMO

ETA: maybe I watch too much Criminal Minds :waitasec:

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Me too!! The fact that they've changed their mind about speaking to the press only hours after BAU has come leads me to think it's related.

BAU will usually help the family with their statement when they are going to speak out. They will tell them what they can say and what they cant.

imo

 

[tlcya]

I personally am going to be paying attention to the style of their address... something that the chief said yesterday made me think they had wanted to talk to the BSU before the parents made a statement (re: possible perp profile)

I sure hope you are right. It gives me comfort to hope that the parents are being coached by the FBI's BAU. If so, it suggests that LE really is not tying itself to any one theory but is still actively following many, including the unlikely but entirely possible scenario of an abduction (ie no family involvement).

tlcox whines and fidgets. "Nursie are we there yet? I am ready for the family statement now"

 

[RainyGirl]

Can I say this....without being too "controversial???

PLEASE I pray this tragedy does NOT attract people who choose to insert themselves into the case unnecessarily, unofficially, AND inappropriately!!!

JMHO............

 

[Anita Richman]

BAU will usually help the family with their statement when they are going to speak out. They will tell them what they can say and what they cant.

imo

Do you think BAU encouraged them to speak?

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I had a similar thought Nurse, I think overall they wanted to wait also and let the BSU Team advise them on how/what to say to the media. If they do have a profile I expect there would be certain things they would want/not want the parents to say.

JMO

ETA: maybe I watch too much Criminal Minds :waitasec:

I love Criminal Minds!

Yes, I think they waited so that BAU could get a profile on the type of person that will no doubt be listening. (the one who took Isa) I think the one that did this is keeping up with all the media stories about this case.

imo

 

[Taminator]

I really hate to see them come forward actually. I have seen how unmercifal some can be when parents do speak out.

Just like the news reporter on HLN just said .......when they come forth they will be critized and scrutinized one way or another.......

imo

True. I remember how relentless some people were with Diena Thompson, among other parents, but Diena and what she went through in the "court of public opinion" sticks out most in my mind.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Do you think BAU encouraged them to speak?

Im not sure. They may have just been too distraught to do so before now but BAU may have convinced them they could get through it.

IMO