Found Deceased AZ - Isabella Grogan-Cannella, 8, Bullhead City, 2 September 2014 - #2

[FlamingoLady]

http://archive.azcentral.com/video/3770315435001

Don't know if this has been posted yet. Forgive me if it has. I find it interesting that she says something to the effect of "got her back..." indicating her girls had been taken from her before by CPS. I could be wrong..jmo

 

[Krystine]

Could a mod or someone that knows let me know if this is allowed? Is Tania's Facebook allowed to be talked on about on here?

Many of us following along have seen it... I know my life was enriched ...
Can you boil a computer?

 

[newone]

http://archive.azcentral.com/video/3770315435001

Don't know if this has been posted yet. Forgive me if it has. I find it interesting that she says something to the effect of "got her back..." indicating her girls had been taken from her before by CPS. I could be wrong..jmo

kids were with gramma for like 9 months ((correct me if I am incorrect on exact number of months)) and they had only been back with TG for a couple of months.....IIRC

 

[Amster]

And, still, excuses are being made for this parents negligence :facepalm:
As long as poor, horrible, criminal parenting is excused or explained away, more little ones will be lost. So sad and angry!

 

[revampz]

I haven't commented on this case yet, but I spend a couple of hours going through all the facebook pages of friends, family and of course the Justice for Bella, find Bella etc etc etc.............everyone that knows the mother says she is a meth addict............all I will say is what the heck were the kids living with a meth freak and all her meth freak friends and boyfriend.......sorry but they cant even look after themselves and keep themselves decent, let alone be responsible for kids.

 

[SCHMAE]

I'm sure everybody has been just dying to know what I think about this case, but I'm going to tell you anyway!:fence::laughing: I don't necessarily think there have been as many lies and story changes as most people seem to. My thoughts are:

JR told people he was leaving, and walked outside.

He then sneaked back inside and hid in the girl's bedroom.

When the girls saw him there, he told them not to tell anyone because they were playing hide and seek.

The parents came down, told the girls to get ready and go to bed, and then left for WM.

The sister may have gone to the grandmother's room and woke her up to say she couldn't find them, and she may have just said to call her mother and gone back to sleep. Many older people have trouble sleeping and take medication that can help them sleep through a lot.

When the sister told TG she couldn't find Bella or JR, they assumed she just didn't know he had already left before they did.

If they had been partying that night, TG may have been a bit high and/or drunk. When she said "they" took her, she may have thought CPS had taken her because of what they'd done earlier or for leaving her there with only a sleeping grandmother for supervision.

It's possible that all of these statements are true, and it's possible that none of them are. Because I don't know which is the case, I'm once more hung up on this stupid fence. MOO

Interesting, Confusion. Good to see you

 

[news.talk]

Many of us following along have seen it... I know my life was enriched ...
Can you boil a computer?

Or my eyeballs? I am sickened by the level of degenerate behaviour and totally inability to take *any* responsibility. Sadly, I don't know how this didn't happen sooner to one of these kids.

 

[news.talk]

I haven't commented on this case yet, but I spend a couple of hours going through all the facebook pages of friends, family and of course the Justice for Bella, find Bella etc etc etc.............everyone that knows the mother says she is a meth addict............all I will say is what the heck were the kids living with a meth freak and all her meth freak friends and boyfriend.......sorry but they cant even look after themselves and keep themselves decent, let alone be responsible for kids.

...and my point is, how is that none of the public agencies surrounding the family based on previous convictions, allowed children to be in the care and control of these people? Why did the GM return these kids to their care? Why did NO ONE step in and save these kids?

Who killed Bella? IMO, JJR did but everyone that claimed to love her allowed to happen.

 

[news.talk]

I'm sure everybody has been just dying to know what I think about this case, but I'm going to tell you anyway!:fence::laughing: I don't necessarily think there have been as many lies and story changes as most people seem to. My thoughts are:

JR told people he was leaving, and walked outside.

He then sneaked back inside and hid in the girl's bedroom.

When the girls saw him there, he told them not to tell anyone because they were playing hide and seek.

The parents came down, told the girls to get ready and go to bed, and then left for WM.

The sister may have gone to the grandmother's room and woke her up to say she couldn't find them, and she may have just said to call her mother and gone back to sleep. Many older people have trouble sleeping and take medication that can help them sleep through a lot.

When the sister told TG she couldn't find Bella or JR, they assumed she just didn't know he had already left before they did.

If they had been partying that night, TG may have been a bit high and/or drunk. When she said "they" took her, she may have thought CPS had taken her because of what they'd done earlier or for leaving her there with only a sleeping grandmother for supervision.

It's possible that all of these statements are true, and it's possible that none of them are. Because I don't know which is the case, I'm once more hung up on this stupid fence. MOO

According to the police report, as linked multiple times, JJR never left - UNTIL he was last seen by the sister WITH the victim. He then disappeared at the EXACT same time as the victim.

I tend to believe the 10 year-old sister before I take the parent's word.

Personally, I don't need a fence because the view from where I sit is crystal clear.

 

[Kaydence]

Did the 10 year old not live with the family most of the time, but Bella did? Or is she perhaps not Tania's bio child? I find it so strange that Bella appears to be the favored child, as evident by SM.

I also find it odd that TG is out there trying to tell the world she's a good mother. Another case that I (and many of us) am following also had parents that have been raked through the coals for parenting choices. Yet they are quietly grieving their daughter.

 

[Kaydence]

Oh yes, I think the 10 year old can be trusted in what she saw that night. Her clothing description was spot on, very detailed.

 

[news.talk]

Did the 10 year old not live with the family most of the time, but Bella did? Or is she perhaps not Tania's bio child? I find it so strange that Bella appears to be the favored child, as evident by SM.

I also find it odd that TG is out there trying to tell the world she's a good mother. Another care that I (and many of us) am following also had parents that have been raked through the coals for parenting choices. Yet they are quietly grieving their daughter.

Personally, I don't think TG has begun to grieve. That would require awareness. Until she is aware of her failings and all the circumstances stemming from her lifestyle and choices that led to her daughter's death, she cannot begin to grieve. She may feel the loss but there is no way she will be able to come to terms with this tragedy, unless she takes *some* responsibility.

 

[SCHMAE]

Many of us following along have seen it... I know my life was enriched ...
Can you boil a computer?

:thinking: I wonder.

 

[MsMarple]

http://www.mohavedailynews.com/news...cle_2b908420-3660-11e4-a821-0019bb2963f4.html

"Tania Grogan drove to Kingman on Saturday to ask Justin Rector a question. “I wanted to ask him why he did it, what did Bella do,” she said."

Seriously, is she really blaming Bella for getting herself murdered? SMH

With Tania it's hard to tell but yeah, it sounds like she wants to know what Bella "did" to make JR do what he did.

She's not the most, um, erudite person so let's hope she garbled her sentence and actually meant "what he did to Bella."

Remember her other statement:

"The person that is being charged with the..with my daughter's death is behind bars... and I'm going to be going to go visiting him because he will open up to me.

I want him to know... why he hurt Bella..."

So either she gets confused when she's excited or angry (whack! whack! whack!) or else she's "leaking" some inner thoughts...

 

[annie1978]

I cannot begin to imagine how the little 10-year-old feels. She goes through the most traumatic thing she will (most likely) ever face in her life, is hurting for her sister, scared, feeling guilty no doubt, especially if mom is calling her a liar, and hears her mother saying she has "nothing left to live for" and "the only thing in my life..." One would think the mom would hold onto that little girl and never let her go, tell her how much she loves her and she did just right, and they will live through it together. I hope the grandma who has custody of her now is doing just that.

 

[taysmommy]

With Tania it's hard to tell but yeah, it sounds like she wants to know what Bella "did" to make JR do what he did.

She's not the most, um, erudite person so let's hope she garbled her sentence and actually meant "what he did to Bella."

Remember her other statement:

"The person that is being charged with the..with my daughter's death is behind bars... and I'm going to be going to go visiting him because he will open up to me.

I want him to know... why he hurt Bella..."

So either she gets confused when she's excited or angry (whack! whack! whack!) or else she's "leaking" some inner thoughts...

That statement about what Bella had done just got me a whole new level of angry. I'm already angry that she apparently chose not to put her children first, which to me is inexcusable, but now is trying to blame her daughter for going and getting herself murdered?!? I'm sorry, but she needs to Mom up and take some **** responsibility for the children she chose to not only bring into this world, but chose to keep. JMO

 

[Woe.be.gone]

http://www.mohavedailynews.com/news...cle_2b908420-3660-11e4-a821-0019bb2963f4.html

hang onto your hats as you read this one

JR didn't have a phone

http://www.mohavedailynews.com/news...cle_2b908420-3660-11e4-a821-0019bb2963f4.html

Products of their environment.
Did someone point out this family was receiving food stamps/assistance? The mom is bragging about having hundreds of dollars worth of outdoor toys available in the backyard (that's what makes her a good mother).

The tone of the mother and her supporters is (I can't even describe what I'm feeling) so detached from the depth of the situation. And the defensive posture of an addict is clearly recognizable in most of the remarks. Not to mention the passing the blame game (to LE in this case) by one of the friends. Very telling as to the mentality of the people involved. Sad, very sad. Tragic, beyond tragic.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Yes, like there's something the little girl did that might justify the actions of the "uncle".
They could make an argument that these adults (the mother) are nuts as in crazy, detached from reality - lunatics.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Did the 10 year old not live with the family most of the time, but Bella did? Or is she perhaps not Tania's bio child? I find it so strange that Bella appears to be the favored child, as evident by SM.

I also find it odd that TG is out there trying to tell the world she's a good mother. Another case that I (and many of us) am following also had parents that have been raked through the coals for parenting choices. Yet they are quietly grieving their daughter.

Great, more good news. Let's be sure to totally mess with the mind of the living daughter too. A parent does that by stating their favorite child was murdered. That registers to the other one that it would have been better or okay if she had been the victim.
There's little chance for the ten year old to thrive in this environment. Someone save her.

 

[TravelingBug]

Yep, kinda like in the Haleigh Cummings case when Misty was asked about the missing blanket and she said 'it was in the van that "they" took'.:banghead:

Can't wait to hear who the "they" TG was referring to (as far as what she said to TP - which is what's adding to TP's sentiment about TG and the changing stories)

GRACE: To Toni Paige joining me, grandmother of little Bella. Toni, thank you for being with us. When you first heard from Bella`s mother, didn`t she say, I can`t find Bella or Justin?

TONI PAGE, GRANDMOTHER OF MURDERED GIRL: They took her, they took her. I won`t do anything bad anymore. They got Bella.

And then the next minute their stories all change. Everybody had different stories.

http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1409/04/ng.01.html