Found Deceased AZ - Isabella Grogan-Cannella, 8, Bullhead City, 2 September 2014 - #3

[SCHMAE]

My dad was married in Vegas .. I looked him up and his shows the same way as theirs .. License and affidavit. My dad is definitely married, so I'm assuming TG and RF are as well.

Oh snap!!!!!!!!!!!! I think I've got it !!!!!! Could TG and/ or RF still be married to a previous spouse? They did get married and then thought ' oh crap, forgot to divorce x '' and then the word games began bf, fiance, spouse, etc. ** WILD speculation **
( i have an x brother in law who forgot to divorce some wives prior to marrying others and it always made for a little adventure and a lot of hush hush )

 

[Hippiemomof5]

Sorry if I offended . But If this acronym fits anyone it's TG.

I'm not saying it's not fitting, and I'm not offended. I've honestly never heard the term before and was just shocked. lol

 

[margarita25]

JJR is a pedophile if he raped Isabella.

JJR is a pedophile because Bella had no bottoms on, no matter what type of physical contact occurred afterwise (unless her pants magically flew off, or got dragged off during transport, etc). JMO The point is, IMO ONE IS A PEDOPHILE IF THEY TAKE OFF A CHILD'S PANTS. In other words, that's a type of rape/pedophelia just in itself.

 

[margarita25]

Just throw away the key already

 

[RottyMama]

One of the latest pics I saw was an officer with a bloodhound. They are certainly still looking for something? Apologies to the mods too if this can't be posted. It's just so frustrating, we need a reporter out there to tweet *hint hint* anyone reporters reading lol

LE is gone as of 45 minutes ago.

 

[3blue1pink]

Just throw away the key already

Seriously !

I wonder who has the privilege of representing this piece of waste .

 

[Magdalyn]

Wow isn't this like the 4th time? I didn't see a mattress being taken as evidence yet. Curious, since mom said something about Bella being in or going to "bed", was it an actual bed?

From the various statements from TG, RF and msm reporting from the the police report, I had the impression where they were 'getting ready for bed', watching a movies, playing hide and go seek, and hanging out with JRR all by themselves, seem to all be the 'downstairs'. Where the sliders are. And the TV (for movies). Earlier, five adults were hanging 'upstairs'. G'ma was sleeping 'upstairs'.

I personally was left with the impression the girls slept in the living room, or at least were going to that night.

 

[Magdalyn]

Interwebs probs, duplicate post, argh!

 

[margarita25]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia

"Pedophilia or paedophilia is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children, generally age 11 years or younger. As a medical diagnosis, specific criteria for the disorder extends the cut-off point for prepubescence to age 13.[1][2][3][4] A person who is diagnosed with pedophilia must be at least 16 years of age, but adolescents who are 16 years of age or older must be at least five years older than the prepubescent child before the attraction can be diagnosed as pedophilia.[1][2]
Pedophilia has a range of definitions, as found in psychiatry, psychology, the vernacular, and law enforcement. The International Classification of Diseases (ICD) defines it as a "disorder of adult personality and behaviour" in which there is a sexual preference for children of prepubertal or early pubertal age.[5] It is termed pedophilic disorder in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5), and the manual defines it as a paraphilia in which adults or adolescents 16 years of age or older have intense and recurrent sexual urges towards and fantasies about prepubescent children that they have either acted on or which cause them distress or interpersonal difficulty.[1]
In popular usage, the word pedophilia is often used to mean any sexual interest in children or the act of child sexual abuse.[3][6][7][8] For example, The American Heritage Stedman's Medical Dictionary states, "Pedophilia is the act or fantasy on the part of an adult of engaging in sexual activity with a child or children."[9] This common use sometimes conflates the sexual interest in and sexual contact with pubescent or post-pubescent minors.[10][11] Researchers recommend that these imprecise uses be avoided because although people who commit child sexual abuse sometimes exhibit the disorder,[6][12][13] many child sexual abuse offenders do not meet the clinical diagnosis standards for pedophilia and these standards pertain to prepubescents.[10][14][15]"

 

[lillybell]

LE is gone as of 45 minutes ago.

Are you local Rottymama? Where were LE, the family home or the site Bella was found? X

 

[3blue1pink]

From the various statements from TG, RF and msm reporting from the the police report, I had the impression where they were 'getting ready for bed', watching a movies, playing hide and go seek, and hanging out with JRR all by themselves, seem to all be the 'downstairs'. Where the sliders are. And the TV (for movies). Earlier, five adults were hanging 'upstairs'. G'ma was sleeping 'upstairs'.

I personally was left with the impression the girls slept in the living room, or at least were going to that night.

It was only a two bedroom my guess is grandma had one room and TG/RF had the other and the girls slept downstairs .

Hmm I wonder what 5 adults were doing in the upstairs bedroom of the parents . And was JJR one if them ?

 

[lillybell]

It was only a two bedroom my guess is grandma had one room and TG/RF had the other and the girls slept downstairs .

Hmm I wonder what 5 adults were doing in the upstairs bedroom of the parents . And was JJR one if them ?

And I wonder where JJR slept?

 

[3blue1pink]

Cuz when I entertain ... I always do it in my bedroom and not the living-room or kitchen ... End sarcasm

 

[mikeysmommom]

I saw pictures , new ones posted on a fb acct. I was not sure if it was okay to post but that is why I put the Mods delete if not allowed. I wish media would report on this!

 

[Magdalyn]

It was only a two bedroom my guess is grandma had one room and TG/RF had the other and the girls slept downstairs .

Hmm I wonder what 5 adults were doing in the upstairs bedroom of the parents . And was JJR one if them ?

JRR, the sometimes babysitter who might strangle pets according to TG, was downstairs with them alone.

The report says Bella and her 10-year-old sister were at home with their mother Tania Grogan, her husband Ralph Foster and his mother, and three of Grogan's friends on Sept. 1.



The adults were upstairs and the two girls were downstairs. Justin James Rector was also downstairs with the girls.

http://www.jrn.com/ktnv/news/Police...arrest-in-Bullhead-City-murder-274120571.html

Six adults upstairs (if you include g'ma), two girls alone with JJR downstairs.

 

[tier]

One of the latest pics I saw was an officer with a bloodhound. They are certainly still looking for something? Apologies to the mods too if this can't be posted. It's just so frustrating, we need a reporter out there to tweet *hint hint* any reporters reading lol

I'm thinking they may be trying to locate her shorts. If they weren't found with her or the side of the road like he threw his shirt or at walmart since he left his shoes there... where are they? If she left home without them then a vehicle was probably involved. And it seems he didn't use one from what we know so far with him walking from walmart when first picked up.

 

[MsMarple]

From the various statements from TG, RF and msm reporting from the the police report, I had the impression where they were 'getting ready for bed', watching a movies, playing hide and go seek, and hanging out with JRR all by themselves, seem to all be the 'downstairs'. Where the sliders are. And the TV (for movies). Earlier, five adults were hanging 'upstairs'. G'ma was sleeping 'upstairs'.

I personally was left with the impression the girls slept in the living room, or at least were going to that night.

Ugh. How big is this house? Where did Bella and her sister sleep? Where did all those <cough> guests sleep?

OTOH, I'm not sure I want to know...

 

[3blue1pink]

I'm thinking they may be trying to locate her shorts. If they weren't found with her or the side of the road like he threw his shirt or at walmart since he left his shoes there... where are they? If she left home without them then a vehicle was probably involved. And it seems he didn't use one from what we know so far with him walking from walmart when first picked up.

I thought a neighbor reported seeing a suspicious person JJR , drive away in car

 

[3blue1pink]

Ugh. How big is this house? Where did Bella and her sister sleep? Where did all those <cough> guests sleep?

OTOH, I'm not sure I want to know...

Only 1050 sq ft 2 bed 1.5 bath . Townhouse style . Beds up with full bath . Living area down with half bath .

Wondering if the neighbors have been interviewed by LE . There's always a Gladys kravitz in every neighborhood . My DH thinks it's me in mine... Lol

 

[Ontario Mom]

Only 1050 sq ft 2 bed 1.5 bath . Townhouse style . Beds up with full bath . Living area down with half bath .

Wondering if the neighbors have been interviewed by LE . There's always a Gladys kravitz in every neighborhood . My DH thinks it's me in mine... Lol

In ours, it's my hubby and the guy across the street. Ole Gladys has some competition