Found Deceased AZ - Isabella Grogan-Cannella, 8, Bullhead City, 2 September 2014 - #3

[news.talk]

While I agree She has to eat . Out , is not a requirement . She could order in or have someone bring her take out . If she wants the public/media to "leave her alone " then she needs to stay our of their view. Not hard even in motel . Sickening sitting their smiling with friends . Gaaaaaa

I agree. I wouldn't be able to get out of bed, never mind get dressed and go out to socialize.

She seems emotionally disjointed. The dry tears, the smiling, the interviews... Either she has not begun to grieve or something is VERY wrong with her. Reminds me of the Casey Anthony case - mother out having fun, devoid of normal grief.

 

[news.talk]

They had had some serious monsoons just prior to her death . So the ground was prob very muddy .

How easy would it have been to dig a grave though?

 

[3blue1pink]

I agree. I wouldn't be able to get out of bed, never mind get dressed and go out to socialize.

She seems emotionally disjointed. The dry tears, the smiling, the interviews... Either she has not begun to grieve or something is VERY wrong with her. Reminds me of the Casey Anthony case - mother out having fun, devoid of normal grief.

To me this is thumbing her nose at the public on purpose .

 

[Seajay]

Some people should not be parents. Period. If they can't put their children first, if they can't protect them from harm, if they can't accept responsibility for their actions, they should not have children. Some women do not have a maternal bone in their bodies. And since they do not, they should have children.

Under the influence of drugs or alcohol, common sense and inhibitions go out the window. People under the influence do not make good choices. That's why they drive under the influence, shoplift for drug money, rob homes, any number of crimes. I can't wrap my mind around having to explain this, that someone in that culture is not an upstanding citizen that is going to make the right choices for those they are responsible for. TG didn't. And Bella paid the price for it. Bella was an 8 year old child, who needed guidance and love and protection. She needed a curfew and a bed time and a set of rules. She need not need to be raised in a party/flop house where strangers came and went all times during the day or night. She needed structure and a good home foundation. Every child deserves that. Bella was no different. It's not ok the way Bella had to live. And it's not ok te way Bella had to die. IMO, MOO, JMO.

 

[Seajay]

I agree. I wouldn't be able to get out of bed, never mind get dressed and go out to socialize.

She seems emotionally disjointed. The dry tears, the smiling, the interviews... Either she has not begun to grieve or something is VERY wrong with her. Reminds me of the Casey Anthony case - mother out having fun, devoid of normal grief.

A few years ago, I had something devastating happen in my life. I lost 35 lbs. in 3 months. I could not eat. I wasn't physically ill, but I did not deal with the issue very well. And this issue was nowhere near as traumatic as having one of my so called friends murder my child. I don't get it, I just don't get it. I don't think I ever will.

 

[annie1978]

How easy would it have been to dig a grave though?

In my opinion, not very easy, even though there had been rain because when the sun bakes the soil hard for months before rain, then any rain does not "soak in" and just runs through the washes. There might be an inch or two, or maybe even 3 of muck for a couple of days, but the dirt under it is rock-hard. Unless they had rains like I had not seen in the past 18 years which is, of course possible. Then again I never had occasion to dig in the washes, but just from my observations.

 

[3blue1pink]

How easy would it have been to dig a grave though?

Are you thinking that perhaps it was pre dug ?

 

[Irisha]

I remember reading that. IDK if I am allowed to elaborate but if you look through the other postings in that group you will see there was controversy surrounding that poster.

Stop that:blushing:, you weren't supposed to read beyond posted post.

 

[3blue1pink]

Thank you.

This comment was posted to FB on 9/8/2014, by D.G.C.: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154560531940103&set=gm.735006069894543&type=1&theater

It makes perfect sense to me.

If I'm reading this correctly it states she was allowed to return home. Anyone know if that's the case ? Didn't they do an interview in Their kitchen too? So that would mean she has access to cooking facilities. Just sayin .

 

[Honey_West]

A few years ago, I had something devastating happen in my life. I lost 35 lbs. in 3 months. I could not eat. I wasn't physically ill, but I did not deal with the issue very well. And this issue was nowhere near as traumatic as having one of my so called friends murder my child. I don't get it, I just don't get it. I don't think I ever will.

:grouphug:

 

[annie1978]

Are you thinking that perhaps it was pre dug ?

Could have been also an area that water ran through and wore a trench, hence, not much digging would be required.

 

[news.talk]

In my opinion, not very easy, even though there had been rain because when the sun bakes the soil hard for months before rain, then any rain does not "soak in" and just runs through the washes. There might be an inch or two, or maybe even 3 of muck for a couple of days, but the dirt under it is rock-hard. Unless they had rains like I had not seen in the past 18 years which is, of course possible. Then again I never had occasion to dig in the washes, but just from my observations.

Are you thinking that perhaps it was pre dug ?

No. Not pre-dug. I can't figure out where JJR would have got a shovel and IMO, he would have needed one. I agree that the ground would have been pretty hard, not something easily dug with hands or even a rock.

Did he go back to the house? Steal it from WM? A neighbours yard? Where is it now?

I am also still curious where the actual murder took place. Did he drag or carry the victim to her grave or was it done there? I wonder if her shorts came off when she was being transported.

 

[kshultz06082]

While I agree She has to eat . Out , is not a requirement . She could order in or have someone bring her take out . If she wants the public/media to "leave her alone " then she needs to stay our of their view. Not hard even in motel . Sickening sitting their smiling with friends . Gaaaaaa

I'm curious how RF feels about this lunch date... the one in orange is TG's ex-girlfriend.

 

[skibaboo]

FBI, LE and bloodhound back at the memorial/crime scene. Posted 5 mins ago by 'A.N' https://www.facebook.com/groups/bhcbellastrong/?fref=nf

 

[hambirg]

I do believe the house is still under LE control and she is likely still at a hotel, therefore has to eat out.

What is disturbing to me is she is SMILING... again. I don't know if I would ever smile again, especially so soon after her child was murdered. She seems to be missing a sensitivity chip.

. . .or she's high.

 

[RottyMama]

FBI and police dog today at 3:45 PM AZ time....

 

[ChuckMaureen]

Exactly, but on post 45 you did refer to JJR as a pedophile.Very few male junkies are pedophiles IMO many would probably break the thing off of a pedophile.IMO How many littles girls deaths/w SA were committed by junkies?

My apologies .. I should have researched more thoroughly. I have been misapplying the "pedophile" label. If JJR raped Isabella that would make him a child molester.

 

[ChuckMaureen]

And the statement that shocks me the most, "I want him to tell me, what did Bella do"?

Seems like she was in disbelief that JJR would simply abduct, possibly rape and murder Isabella, that something must have triggered that action and the most logical point of trigger would be the target of the action, hence: "what did Bella do?" ... but this would not necessarily imply TG assumed Isabella had actually done something so heinous that would trigger such an evil action. I expect TG's tort would be more from the perspective, "What could Bella have done to you that warranted what you did to my baby girl!?!!"

 

[justanother]

Looks like they have been out there searching several times today. Wonder what they are looking for?

 

[Seajay]

Seems like she was in disbelief that JJR would simply abduct, possibly rape and murder Isabella, that something must have triggered that action and the most logical point of trigger would be the target of the action, hence: "what did Bella do?" ... but this would not necessarily imply TG assumed Isabella had actually done something so heinous that would trigger such an evil action. I expect TG's tort would be more from the perspective, "What could Bella have done to you that warranted what you did to my baby girl!?!!"

Surprisingly, I agree with this. The way I took TG's "what did Bella do?" to mean what did Bella ever do to you that you would do something like this so horrible to her? I honestly didn't see anything wrong with her statement as she made it.