Found Deceased AZ - Isabella Grogan-Cannella, 8, Bullhead City, 2 September 2014 - #3

[hambirg]

Wasn't the baby found without pants? I gave not followed this case closely but I think theories of a sacrificial lamb for drug payment retribution is quite far fetched. It just looks like a fox was left guarding the hen house. Purposefully.


But why did these folks fail to let 911 know that the guy had been there and went missing as well? That's baffling and unforgivable to me. And the slight pause when he states they were left with his mother in the call indicates, IMO, he was hiding this fact. Why? Is it due to conditions of parole or something? Known felons not being allowed to hang with known felons?

What if JJR took more than just Bella? :waitasec:

It hadn't occured to me before. But if he took Bella and something illegal that TG and RF weren't suppose to have (drugs, guns, stolen goods) maybe JJR thought they wouldn't call LE or it would buy him enough time to do what he did to Bella. The text, if true, makes sense in that scenario. It also explains the delay in calling 911. . .and leaving JJR out of the scenario.

 

[winterrose]

Did anyone actually see a charge on JJR for strangling animals?

 

[tier]

Did anyone actually see a charge on JJR for strangling animals? https://www.facebook.com/groups/bhcbellastrong/ A friend of the mother's comment about the ex gf and dogs.

Will you give the initials of who wrote the main post and the initials of the mothers friend who wrote that comment, plz?

 

[winterrose]

It was under the mother's post this morning, AF is an ex gf, posted three hours ago, and SAS is a friend who posted about 13 minutes ago.

 

[Tams]

BINGO!!!!

I'm sitting at work and all of a sudden it hit me! You beat me to the punch! LOL

I think they are waiting for the funeral to be done because it certainly would look terrible if they arrested a "grieving mother" before she was able to lay her child to rest.

ALSO.....LE is going to be watching this funeral like no other. I can only imagine the characters that will be in attendance and what may transpire. Oh...to be a fly on the wall.

Indeed! My thoughts too - and dear 'hubby' arrested as well.

WRT LE being there tomorrow: I would imagine that they will be there en mass to keep the peace, based on the volatile emotions running high in the community over this (the posts on SM are filled with SO much anger and hatred!).

 

[Magdalyn]

Did anyone actually see a charge on JJR for strangling animals? https://www.facebook.com/groups/bhcbellastrong/ A friend of the mother's comment about the ex gf and dogs, that would be about 13 minutes ago. The reason I ask is because under the same thread of TG talking this morning, an ex gf was on 3 hours ago defending the mother.

AFAIK, we've not seen charges. We've seen this: http://www.fox5vegas.com/story/26463107/mother-on-childs-accused-killer-i-trusted-him

 

[winterrose]

I was just looking back at this video, because she said charges had been filed, and I hadn't seen them.

 

[HarvestMoon]

What would the parents be charged with?

 

[margarita25]

In an earlier post, I stated that I think this might not be JJR's first sexual crime, and even possible murder:

However, the disorganization of this perp, as well as his other decisions (walmart, etc) makes me wonder...Therefore, I'm modifying my earlier post/thoughts to say that I think this is possibly not JJR's first sexual crime, but possibly his first murder. jmo

 

[Tealgrove]

What would the parents be charged with?

Endangering a Child?, Obstruction of Justice? and depending on exactly what REALLY went on that night a multitude of things. Who knows what they can be charged with if it is proven that they lied and misled police. So many illegal things are going on in that house that there could be a multitude of charges.

 

[pinamia]

What would the parents be charged with?

Being vilified by the media and bullies. IMO, no one but JJR is responsible. There are some who have stated that the mom is 100% responsible and when I stated they must think JJR is innocent, they then said that both are 100% responsible. The degree of bullying that is occurring is big and it's done from so many people. There is a big hate for this mom who in my opinion made a stupid mistake. In stead of learning and having sympathy, there are so many pointing the finger. I personally can't judge a grieving mom and there are plenty that are killing their kids intentionally. This is not one of them.

 

[pinamia]

They have the suspect in custody. He's the killer, end of story.

 

[3blue1pink]

They have the suspect in custody. He's the killer, end of story.

We shall see and very soon I suspect .

 

[lillybell]

They have the suspect in custody. He's the killer, end of story.

I haven't heard anyone say that the killer is not in custody?
I don't think anyone thinks that Tania murdered Bella, but she certainly failed to protect her, neglected her and appears to have put drugs and crime before her daughters!

I don't think it's anywhere near "end of story"! Just my opinion.

 

[hambirg]

Being vilified by the media and bullies. IMO, no one but JJR is responsible. There are some who have stated that the mom is 100% responsible and when I stated they must think JJR is innocent, they then said that both are 100% responsible. The degree of bullying that is occurring is big and it's done from so many people. There is a big hate for this mom who in my opinion made a stupid mistake. In stead of learning and having sympathy, there are so many pointing the finger. I personally can't judge a grieving mom and there are plenty that are killing their kids intentionally. This is not one of them.

She does not have to read on FB or wherever people are posting their negative opinions about her. I can't imagine, if I just lost my child, I would be reading on social media. . .at all! I'm pretty sure I wouldn't give a rats a** what anyone was saying on the internet because I would still be curled up in the fetal position or in a psych ward.

 

[skibaboo]

They have the suspect in custody. He's the killer, end of story.

But it's not the end of the story. The investigation is still ongoing and the police have not ruled out further arrests, or further charges against JJR. I feel it is far from the end of the story. JMO

 

[Ontario Mom]

Did anyone actually see a charge on JJR for strangling animals? https://www.facebook.com/groups/bhcbellastrong/ <modsnip>

Unless he was charged in another state, there isn't a charge. I've gone through each of his case numbers with the AZ court system and read each charge carefully. Not a single one mentions animals.

 

[MsMarple]

Did anyone actually see a charge on JJR for strangling animals? https://www.facebook.com/groups/bhcbellastrong/ <modsnip>

The news reported TG saying that a police report was filed recently but nothing about any charges. Ugh.

Grogan said Rector never showed signs of aggression until recently. She said his ex-girlfriend recently filed police reports accusing him of strangling her pets.

http://www.fox5vegas.com/story/26463107/mother-on-childs-accused-killer-i-trusted-him

 

[Magdalyn]

The news reported TG saying that a police report was filed recently but nothing about any charges. Ugh.

Grogan said Rector never showed signs of aggression until recently. She said his ex-girlfriend recently filed police reports accusing him of strangling her pets.

http://www.fox5vegas.com/story/26463107/mother-on-childs-accused-killer-i-trusted-him

It may still be under investigation.

 

[cluciano63]

Look it is pretty clear to me that if Mom had been more careful about the people she allowed around and in the home with her children, Bella would be alive, and as well as she ever was. And Imo, that would have been a very easy thing to do. Many/most people manage to keep known felons out of their homes as guests. Jmo