Identified! AZ - Maricopa Co, WhtFem UP72782, 20-30yo, found by bystander in park, Phoenix, Jul'20 - n/a

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It's possible. The area above my right eyelid droops down like this also. So, my eyes do look like they have slightly different shapes.

mine are totally different, i have to compensate with my make up.
 
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I noticed that this lady seemed to be barefoot or to put it differently no footwear was mentioned in the Namus file. Because her other clothes were described so neatly I think there was no footwear found. Makes me think about situations were you wouldn't wear something on your feet. She was found in a park, is there water (to bathe her feet), grass? it was summer..... Maybe her footwear was left somewhere else in the park. BTW I can't imagine you would go without something on your feet in a city park, far to dangerous considering what people leave behind. And then there is the question why she died....and more questions (sorry, forgive me).....is there any indication she was homeless, maybe the park was her "home", did she had mental problems and was wondering around in the park acting strangely and somebody noticed that, did she have a disease (Covid19 f.i.?), was drugs found in her system?
 
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I noticed that this lady seemed to be barefoot or to put it differently no footwear was mentioned in the Namus file. Because her other clothes were described so neatly I think there was no footwear found. [...] it was summer..... Maybe her footwear was left somewhere else in the park. BTW I can't imagine you would go without something on your feet in a city park, far to dangerous considering what people leave behind.

This is a good point, especially considering this is Phoenix, where the summer heat can make the pavement so hot that it can cause serious burns to bare feet. This article is from 2017, but it starkly describes how dangerous the situation can be for people who are homeless.

I checked and the National Weather Service did not show excessive heat warnings in the days before this young woman was found, but Phoenix is still *hot* - average temp in the low 100's the day she was found and the day before, with the maximum temperatures even higher. I don't want to speculate too much on cause of death, but heat stroke seems like it would be well within the potential options here.
 
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I hope this link to a Google Earth view of Green Valley park works. The park is within walking distance of I-17 and seems to be in an industrial area with quite a bit of heavy truck traffic. I wonder whether she was a passenger in a big rig? Imo, her clothing fits with someone riding around in a cold, small, air conditioned space. It might explain the long-sleeved sweater dress layered atop shorts and shirt while (possibly) not wearing shoes. I highly doubt a sweater dress was necessary to sit at the park. After all, it was July in Tucson, Arizona.o_O

Like you @Bit of hope, I wish we knew more about her cause of death and time of discovery. I hate letting my mind wander, but there are a few scenarios that could explain how she got there and why. :( I noticed a couple of places along the street around the park where, with the help of a 18-wheeler's size, a body dump could possibly go undetected depending on the time of day or night she arrived at the park.

I looked again for possible matches but had no luck finding any.
 
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I wonder if the stars tattoo on her leg could be the Southern Cross? A very popular tattoo design for Australians and New Zealanders, which is on both their national flags.
 
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I hope this link to a Google Earth view of Green Valley park works. The park is within walking distance of I-17 and seems to be in an industrial area with quite a bit of heavy truck traffic. I wonder whether she was a passenger in a big rig? Imo, her clothing fits with someone riding around in a cold, small, air conditioned space. It might explain the long-sleeved sweater dress layered atop shorts and shirt while (possibly) not wearing shoes. I highly doubt a sweater dress was necessary to sit at the park. After all, it was July in Tucson, Arizona.o_O

Like you @Bit of hope, I wish we knew more about her cause of death and time of discovery. I hate letting my mind wander, but there are a few scenarios that could explain how she got there and why. :( I noticed a couple of places along the street around the park where, with the help of a 18-wheeler's size, a body dump could possibly go undetected depending on the time of day or night she arrived at the park.

I looked again for possible matches but had no luck finding any.

Your link didn't work...another try...:) خرائط ‪Google‬‏‏

Funny.....thinking about a park I have a totally different picture in my mind. For me this isn't a park, but OK. There aren't exactly a lot of secluded spaces, so was it during the day, busy, was it very early in the morning, late at night? At what time was she found by a bystander?
 
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And off course what is really annoying...there aren't pictures of the tattoos in the file....stars can come with so many "faces".....
 
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Good morning, @Bit of hope! :D It seems we walked into this thread at the same time this morning.
 
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Has anyone tried looking at pictures on Facebook? If you search for 'With pain comes strength' a lot of pics of tattoos come up... I started yesterday but I was working so didn't have a lot of time. I'm new and a noob at this kind of stuff, but it could be a start? :-)
 
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Has anyone tried looking at pictures on Facebook? If you search for 'With pain comes strength' a lot of pics of tattoos come up... I started yesterday but I was working so didn't have a lot of time. I'm new and a noob at this kind of stuff, but it could be a start? :)

Hi @Misantro welcome. So far I couldn't find a missing woman with this particular tattoo. She might have taken it later in life, after she went missing, or maybe she isn't even listed as a missing person (yet) I think it's a very common tattoo and you are right there are many pictures of this tattoo in general. Now we need to find a (reported missing) woman with that particular tattoo on the spot our Jane Doe has.
 
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I think the tattoo on her calf is shown upside down in the file, though. I turned it around in the attachment. Looks like a kind of a flower with stars?
 

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  • #36
Is it unusual that the COD is not identified? There must be PM results. You'd think LE would provide the results for a UID even if the cause was undermined just like in the Mostly Harmless thread. I don't understand the reason behind not providing PM pics or even those in situ. You'd have a better chance at identification if you did.

One of the images shows a portion of her face. Her lips seem quite full and she has very smooth skin so I think the age range is fairly accurate. She doesn't have the trademark look of someone who is a long time drug user.

What was the Covid situation in July/20 in AZ? Were people losing their jobs due to shutdowns? Were hospital emergency wards overrun with cases causing PTSD for staff and the resultant tragic suicides thrown in? I thought she may have been wearing hospital scrubs because she actually works in a hospital but anyone can wear them including long term care facilities, hair salons, vets, domestic help, etc.

Both her tattoos would be visible to others when wearing shorts or skirts or a normal top that shows the clavicle so somebody should be familiar with them. It is odd that she has no shoes. Is it possible she was an early morning runner wearing really expensive running shoes? It's a sketchy place to go for a run though, IMO.

The area is just a vast industrial area comprised of small and large businesses. Could she be a worker in one of those businesses? It just seems like a really strange place for a pedestrian to be so I wonder if she was dropped off there. Sky Harbor is just across the highway.

It's hard to tell from the few pictures provided how long she was deceased. There seems to be some lividity on her neck. The call was logged as unresponsive. Was she sitting on a bench, lying on the ground as if sleeping, looking like she was dumped there? More information would help.
 
  • #37
There are pictures of the tattoos in her file now!

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

Thanks for notifying us. Good to see them now. I don't think they are very special, especially the calf tattoo is kind of standard IMO. But visible and so potentially useful to help with an identification. Sadly there are so many unidentified persons with all kinds and/or many tattoos who stay unidentified for years. I hope this lady gets her name back soon.
 
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I haven't seen anyone post this UP yet, and it's getting close to the first anniversary of her discovery so I thought I'd post her. I came across her by accident while browsing NamUs and she really stuck out to me. She was found unresponsive in a park and foul play is not suspected. It sounds like she had some sort of medical problem that caused her death but the exact cause hasn't been released as far as I can tell. A post mortem photo of her tattoos were recently uploaded. She has no rule outs.
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NamUs (postmortem warning): The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

Investigators ask for help identifying woman found dead in Phoenix park | 12news.com

I'm new here so I apologize if I posted this incorrectly in any way!
 
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Sincere condolences to her family and friends.
 

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