AZ AZ - Near Gila Bend, Wht/HispMale 14-19, UP12583, Skeletal, In desert, Healed nasal fracture, Apr'14

[BrownBear]

Unidentified Person / NamUs #UP12583

Demographics
Sex Male
Race / Ethnicity Hispanic / Latino
Possible First Name--
Possible Middle Name--
Possible Last Name--
Nickname/Alias--
Estimated Age Group Adult - Pre 20
Estimated Age Range (Years) 14-19
Estimated Year of Death--
Estimated PMI 1 Years
Height 5' 10"(70 inches) , Estimated
Weight Cannot Estimate

Circumstances
Type Unidentified Deceased
Date Body Found April 8, 2014
NamUs Case Created June 12, 2014
ME/C QA Reviewed--

Location Found
Location Gila Bend, Arizona
County Maricopa County
GPS Coordinates (Not Mapped) N 32 52.048 W 112 31.751
Found On Tribal Land--
Circumstances of Recovery This unidentified hispanic/caucasian male (skeletal remains) was found in the desert area near Gila Bend.

Details of Recovery
Inventory of Remains One or more limbs not recovered One or both hands not recovered
Condition of Remains Not recognizable - Near complete or complete skeleton

Physical Description
Hair Color Unknown
Head Hair Description Unk- skeletal remains
Body Hair Description--
Facial Hair Description--
Left Eye Color--
Right Eye Color--
Eye Description--

Distinctive Physical Features
Other distinctive physical characteristic
healed nasal fracture with deviation to the right

Clothing and Accessories
Clothing
"Levi" jeans size 31x (unk). Canvas belt (no further information known)
On the Body

 

[BrownBear]

2 Exclusions
MP40397 Jesus Ledezma Ortiz 05/02/2012 Maricopa AZ
MP24482 Lawrence Zamora 07/31/2013 Maricopa AZ

 

[Hochman]

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
Nestor Manuel Cabrales Valenzuela

Missing From - Sonora, Arizona
Date of Last Contact - July 2, 2012
Missing Age - 17 Years
Height 5' 10" (70 Inches)
No info on clothing

Comparison

 

[HmmMysterious]

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
Nestor Manuel Cabrales Valenzuela

Missing From - Sonora, Arizona
Date of Last Contact - July 2, 2012
Missing Age - 17 Years
Height 5' 10" (70 Inches)
No info on clothing

Comparison
View attachment 341377

The height, circumstances, and timeline match. Nestor's nose also seems to lean to the right, but I can barely tell as the photo is low quality. I think you should submit.

 

[Hochman]

The height, circumstances, and timeline match. Nestor's nose also seems to lean to the right, but I can barely tell as the photo is low quality. I think you should submit.

Submitted to the Maricopa medical examiner.
- UnidentifiedPersonsBureau
Hopefully he'll eventually be excluded or the NAMUS page will be taken down soon, fingers crossed.

 

[Caring1]

The height, circumstances, and timeline match. Nestor's nose also seems to lean to the right, but I can barely tell as the photo is low quality. I think you should submit.[/

Here is the picture enhanced x2 so his features are more clear:

 

[Hochman]

Comparison with HD picture

His nose indeed does lean right. Hoping the submission leads to something.

 

[Friday Fan]

No COD
Identifiers are not listed.
I wonder if there is more clothing?

Do they believe he had crossed the border?

 

[HmmMysterious]

No COD
Identifiers are not listed.
I wonder if there is more clothing?

Do they believe he had crossed the border?

There's no info stating law enforcement believes that. Nestor was last seen with a group only planning to go to the U.S. I think they did, but Nestor died in the desert. There's a frustrating lack of information about Nestor's clothing.

 

[Friday Fan]

There's no info stating law enforcement believes that. Nestor was last seen with a group only planning to go to the U.S. I think they did, but Nestor died in the desert. There's a frustrating lack of information about Nestor's clothing.

I'm talking about the UID in general

 

[Hochman]

In this picture on his MP page, he might be wearing jeans. Although they could be cargo pants.

Could they be Levy's 501 beige denim?

 

[Hochman]

In this picture on his MP page, he might be wearing jeans. Although they could be cargo pants.

Could they be Levy's 501 beige denim?

He is also wearing a canvas belt, however they never mentioned the cross buckle.

Could he have taken this picture right before he went off with the group? He could be wearing the same clothes as our UP when he was found.

 

[HmmMysterious]

He is also wearing a canvas belt, however they never mentioned the cross buckle.

Could he have taken this picture right before he went off with the group? He could be wearing the same clothes as our UP when he was found.

That's what I noticed too. Nestor's belt is a canvas type like the JD's. I also notice that Nestor is wearing a necklace bearing Christ on the cross. Hispanic people (at least in my family) wear it for good luck and for God to protect them from any danger. They are religious people. He could have taken that photo right before he went off on his trip. Nestor may have worn the necklace in hopes that God would grant him a safe journey.

However, I don't see any mention of a Christ necklace on the JD. Maybe animals took it because it was shiny?

 

[Friday Fan]

Could he have taken this picture right before he went off with the group?

I don't get that impression.

I certainly wouldn't trek into the desert dressed like that...(I'm a she, but if I were a guy I wouldn't)


But you never know....

From looking at Nestor's NAMUS file, it's hard to pinpoint where he went missing. Sounds like he was last seen in July 2, 2012 Altar, Sonora Mexico about 30 miles from the border.

Obviously, got separated from his group.

My hunch, he was eventually reported missing sometime later by someone in Pima County and that person probably did not report him missing for quite some time (possibly several years, since this is immigration related) NAMUS was created in 2018.

 

[HmmMysterious]

I don't get that impression.

I certainly wouldn't trek into the desert dressed like that...(I'm I she, but if I were a guy I wouldn't)


But you never know....

I think he was just showing off his body. Maybe he tried to look intimidating or strong. He could have put on a shirt afterwards and then left.

 

[Hochman]

I think he was just showing off his body. Maybe he tried to look intimidating or strong. He could have put on a shirt afterwards and then left.

If he is our UP, then his shirt may have blown off naturally.

(EDIT: This is probably unlikely to happen.)

 

[Hochman]

If he is our UP, then his shirt may have blown off naturally.

It's also possible he had/put his shirt over his shoulder while he was with the group.

 

[HmmMysterious]

It's also possible he had/put his shirt over his shoulder while he was with the group.

I agree with this. The group was planning and possibly carrying out the trip in July. July in Gila Bend is insanely hot with an average temperature of 109 F.

Gila Bend, Arizona - Wikipedia

 

[Hochman]

i really wish they had included a picture of UP's jeans, but they may have been damaged in some way that prevented them from being recognizable

 

[HmmMysterious]

i really wish they had included a picture of UP's jeans, but they may have been damaged in some way that prevented them from being recognizable

I wish they took a photo of the belt too. By the way, how did you find cases like these? I also saw you on the Dateland John Doe thread.