Bahamas - Taylor Casey, 41, Chicago, last seen in at yoga retreat, Paradise Island, Nassau, 19 Jun 2024

  • #401
What's the tide situation at night?

IMO she intended/expected to return to her tent.

How would her phone end up in the water?

Perhaps she went for a moonlit stroll along the beach.... walked into the water.... I can imagine the waves rolling in, the water soothing... safe...

But misleading. Those pretty waves, lapping at the shore, have immense power. Knee deep, waist deep, holding her phone, then suddenly she's pulled out and under.

No one to save her, no witnesses, just a lonely and cruel accident. It's not impossible.

JMO
 
  • #402
I nearly drowned in 3.5 feet of water in Jupiter FLA. a rip tide will kill you. mOO
 
  • #403
What's the tide situation at night?

IMO she intended/expected to return to her tent.

How would her phone end up in the water?

Perhaps she went for a moonlit stroll along the beach.... walked into the water.... I can imagine the waves rolling in, the water soothing... safe...

But misleading. Those pretty waves, lapping at the shore, have immense power. Knee deep, waist deep, holding her phone, then suddenly she's pulled out and under.

No one to save her, no witnesses, just a lonely and cruel accident. It's not impossible.

JMO
But it's been said that Taylors phone was found on the dock side of the island, not where the beach is.

If you look at the map for Paradise Island, the dock side has a very small area where someone could possibly wade into the water but why? There is a perfectly good beach on the other side not to mention the water would be rough and kind of gross IMHO. It's the waterway between Nassau and Paradise where the cruise ships dock. It wouldn't be nearly as nice as the beach. At least not if you wanted to go for a nice walk. JMO.
 
  • #404
have they investigated the far west side of the island where the light house is? are there properties there? where was taylor walking? have they talked to the man with the walkie talkie who was on taylor's platform earlier the day that she went missing? could she still be on the island?
 
  • #405
have they investigated the far west side of the island where the light house is? are there properties there? where was taylor walking? have they talked to the man with the walkie talkie who was on taylor's platform earlier the day that she went missing? could she still be on the island?
There are no visible roads on that end of Paradise as far as I could see. I'm sure there are paths but am thinking the main way of getting around is by boat.

There are 2 or 3 historical sites for the lighthouse. There are also some private properties and resorts to the west of the ashram (before the lighthouse). A couple of entrances to public beach access and a few spots that are marked for sightseeing/photographs.

Aside from a resort that seems to be associated with Royal Caribbean, there isn't much going on down at that end of the island.

What do you mean by Taylors "platform"? Do you mean the area where the tents are or where they do yoga? Does the ashram have drop-in classes?
 
  • #406
There are no visible roads on that end of Paradise as far as I could see. I'm sure there are paths but am thinking the main way of getting around is by boat.

There are 2 or 3 historical sites for the lighthouse. There are also some private properties and resorts to the west of the ashram (before the lighthouse). A couple of entrances to public beach access and a few spots that are marked for sightseeing/photographs.

Aside from a resort that seems to be associated with Royal Caribbean, there isn't much going on down at that end of the island.

What do you mean by Taylors "platform"? Do you mean the area where the tents are or where they do yoga? Does the ashram have drop-in classes?
her platform where he tent was. :)
 
  • #407
The thing that makes no sense to me is the family/SM's insistence upon foul play given the proximity of the ocean. In 2019, an estimated 236,000 people died from drowning according to the WHO. The reasons that a body wouldn't immediately wash ashore are too numerous to state.

To me it's as if there were a pit of poisonous snakes next to the ashram and yet TikTok and the family were saying not to even bother to look there.

Transgender people are subject to violence more than the rest of the population, which is horrible. But it certainly doesn't make violence the likeliest cause of death, especially when there's a vast body of water steps away and the missing person's phone was found in it.

I swear TikTok is destroying common sense.
I thought that her purse was gone- not sure I would take a purse to go swimming at 11 o'clock though I realize that there is also no "safe" place to leave it. Curious if TC was usually a sound sleeper... if the idea of an 11 o'clock swim would not be something she would do. Also curious about the moon phases and tides the day(s) she went missing.
 
  • #408
Since her phone was found on the dock side, was it near the dock? Could Taylor have walked on the dock to stargaze & ended up dropping her phone, which then bounced or landed in the water somehow?

I still don't know what might have happened after that, though. If the phone did bounce into the water, did she try to climb down off the dock to get in the water & retrieve her phone? Sometimes that isn't the easiest & if there are barnacles on the pilings, those can be very sharp. If she fell in or got in trouble in the water trying to retrieve her phone (& drowned), would she have washed in toward shore or up under the dock somehow? Or would she have been pulled further out? If she had her purse or other belongings with her, would she have set those on the dock if trying to get into the water intentionally? If she had her purse on her when she went into the water, would it or anything in it have possibly washed up or been discoverd?
 
  • #409
I thought that her purse was gone- not sure I would take a purse to go swimming at 11 o'clock though I realize that there is also no "safe" place to leave it. Curious if TC was usually a sound sleeper... if the idea of an 11 o'clock swim would not be something she would do. Also curious about the moon phases and tides the day(s) she went missing.
I don't see a suitcase in any photos. Where is it?
 
  • #410
I think this has been asked previously, but has anyone verified that there are no Jane or John Does in local hospitals or jails?

(I ask because years ago, an acquaintance with schizophrenia was arrested without any id on him & he couldn't tell his own name. He was in jail for months as a John Doe & nobody knew where he was or realized he was in jail. When family called the jail, they asked for him by name &, of course, was told he wasn't there. But he was. He was just a John Doe, not listed under his name.)

I know it seems crazy to ask this & surely there wouldn't be unidentified people in jail (well, Taylor but unidentified for some reason) with local LE being involved in the case/search. But, sometimes things that seem easily done just aren't.
 
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  • #411
Since her phone was found on the dock side, was it near the dock? Could Taylor have walked on the dock to stargaze & ended up dropping her phone, which then bounced or landed in the water somehow?

I still don't know what might have happened after that, though. If the phone did bounce into the water, did she try to climb down off the dock to get in the water & retrieve her phone? Sometimes that isn't the easiest & if there are barnacles on the pilings, those can be very sharp. If she fell in or got in trouble in the water trying to retrieve her phone (& drowned), would she have washed in toward shore or up under the dock somehow? Or would she have been pulled further out? If she had her purse or other belongings with her, would she have set those on the dock if trying to get into the water intentionally? If she had her purse on her when she went into the water, would it or anything in it have possibly washed up or been discoverd?
It would seem odd if she fell in trying to retrieve a dropped phone that the phone was found but no body or other belongings.
 
  • #412
It would seem odd if she fell in trying to retrieve a dropped phone that the phone was found but no body or other belongings.
The water currents on the dockside have me wondering.

There seems to be a lot of activity on the waterway. Cruise ships are docked, boats, water taxis/ferries etc. If someone went into the water on that side, would they not be spotted by someone? What are the odds of drifting away and not being seen by any one of the jet skiers, someone on the deck of a cruise ship or something? I also hate to say it but would shark activity not be noticed or spotted by anyone? There are often signs of that sort of thing but sometimes people don't know what they're seeing, like when a hawk is circling above :(

Someone mentioned getting trapped under a dock which makes me think all kinds of scenarios. It could've been a slip and fall (esp in sandals), a bump to the head or something more sinister. JMO.
 
  • #413
they really need to get into her phone. I wonder if it's possible, shouldn't her provider be able to help? I know it takes time. I just get this nagging feeling that something happened at that Ashram, maybe something upsetting. If she truly went to a party, then who was at that party? was she seen there? nearby homes and buildings should be thoroughly searched, inside and out.

If she went into the water , I really think she would have turned up by now. they are no doubt expert at searching the water. Is there a serial killer operating nearby? can all the employees there account for their whereabouts?


thoughts. mOO
 
  • #414
The phone was supposedly found in the channel (away from the ocean) in 50 feet of water. A journal was also found in the same location. Most of the channel is about 35 feet deep according to an online nautical chart I found. The ship channel for the cruise boats is 35-70 feet. The Ashram is east of the cruise docks. It is hard to pin down an exact location, but it seems to me the most likely reason for her possessions to be found in deep water would be if they were dropped (or thrown) from a boat.

I wonder if she accepted a boat ride from someone.
 
  • #415
the scenario comes to mind of Taylor going to a party, meeting someone and going out on their boat when possibly revealing she is trans not thinking this person may not have a normal reaction to this information and could have become angry and killed her.

another is she was abducted and robbed for the contents of her purse.

another is she was abducted , sexually assaulted and disposed of.

another is she fell in the water

another is there was some kind of problem at the ashram and Taylor had a mental breakdown of some kind.

another is she had some kind of something going on in her personal life that no one knows about or is telling.

mOO
 
  • #416
they really need to get into her phone. I wonder if it's possible, shouldn't her provider be able to help? I know it takes time. I just get this nagging feeling that something happened at that Ashram, maybe something upsetting. If she truly went to a party, then who was at that party? was she seen there? nearby homes and buildings should be thoroughly searched, inside and out.

If she went into the water , I really think she would have turned up by now. they are no doubt expert at searching the water. Is there a serial killer operating nearby? can all the employees there account for their whereabouts?


thoughts. mOO
Something even as seemingly "minor" as snoring from another tent, could have wakened her and caused her to leave the platform. You can't have lights on there, anyway, after 10 or so.
This whole ashram gives me an intense feeling of trapped and cult-ish. Every way out is either dangerous or breaking some rule or other.
 
  • #417

It’s been a month since anyone reported seeing Taylor Casey.

She was last spotted near Paradise Island in the Bahamas on June 19. Still, her loved ones are making sure she is being seen – by publicly campaigning for her safe return.



Casey’s family were told to expect an update last week from the Bahamian authorities but have not heard back, according to Williams and Seymore.

A July 14 statement from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs on behalf of the Consul General of the Bahamas notes the Royal Bahamas Police Force is cooperating with the family and conducting a full and thorough investigation, which remains open.

We want to receive these updates about the full investigation that they’re doing and the thorough work that (they’re) doing. We want to hear that. The fact of the matter is that we haven’t heard that from them. So, I think that that’s telling,” Williams told CNN.
 
  • #418
Chicagoan Casey is described by friends and family as someone who defies “boundaries and definitions,” and a person “everyone notices when she enters a room.”

“I hope that people take this opportunity to have a different conversation about how we see each other and understand each other’s identities,” Boyd said. “That’s my other hope; that Taylor is honored from a place of letting people be curious, nuanced and open to seeing people as a whole person, not just one identity.”

Williams takes solace in the fact that Casey is “strong” mentally and physically. “I believe that it’s those things that are keeping her alive and that would give us the best chance of finding her and bringing her home,” she said.

“Taylor doesn’t give up. Taylor is not a person that just gives up,” Seymore told CNN.
 
  • #419

It’s been a month since anyone reported seeing Taylor Casey.

She was last spotted near Paradise Island in the Bahamas on June 19. Still, her loved ones are making sure she is being seen – by publicly campaigning for her safe return.



Casey’s family were told to expect an update last week from the Bahamian authorities but have not heard back, according to Williams and Seymore.

A July 14 statement from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs on behalf of the Consul General of the Bahamas notes the Royal Bahamas Police Force is cooperating with the family and conducting a full and thorough investigation, which remains open.

We want to receive these updates about the full investigation that they’re doing and the thorough work that (they’re) doing. We want to hear that. The fact of the matter is that we haven’t heard that from them. So, I think that that’s telling,” Williams told CNN.
Noting:

Casey is an artist, a hairstylist, an Air Force veteran, a community worker and a woman of faith, Boyd said.

She was born in south suburban Harvey, Illinois, and most recently lived in Rogers Park in Chicago.

Casey had worked at the Chicago Freedom School as a program manager developing youth programs and had done some work with Howard Brown Health in HIV testing and prevention, her close friend Emily Williams told CNN.
 
  • #420
Noting:

Casey is an artist, a hairstylist, an Air Force veteran, a community worker and a woman of faith, Boyd said.

She was born in south suburban Harvey, Illinois, and most recently lived in Rogers Park in Chicago.

Casey had worked at the Chicago Freedom School as a program manager developing youth programs and had done some work with Howard Brown Health in HIV testing and prevention, her close friend Emily Williams told CNN.
RBBM: (the bold didn't work) I am taking this to mean that Taylor could handle herself in a self defense situation?

I didn't know those other things. It's nice to learn something personal about the people we discuss here. Taylor seems like a well rounded and caring person. I hope there are some answers soon.
 

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