GUILTY Bali - Bali Nine, Australians arrested for heroin trafficking, 2005

  • #201
Okay, so now they have postponed the executions ‘until all legal proceedings are finished’. (For Andrew and Myuran, and the others who have appeals going on.)
There is a court hearing on Thursday, which is the appeal about the clemencies not being properly considered by Joko.


“Mr Lubis has challenged the clemency rejection for Chan and Sukumaran, arguing President Joko Widodo didn't follow due process when he didn't assess their circumstances.

The administrative court threw out the challenge and he's now appealing, with a date set for the same Jakarta court for Thursday.

The lawyers are also pursuing a complaint in the judicial commission after a former lawyer for Chan and Sukumaran alleged interference in the first trial that ended with them sentenced to death.

Chan and Sukumaran provided a statement about the cash-for-leniency claim, but the ex-lawyer himself has yet to detail his recollections. The commission is considering the case.”

http://www.skynews.com.au/news/top-...-in-limbo-for-weeks.html#sthash.Pp0UAZgP.dpuf
 
  • #202
An article about the conditions inside the iron prison and how Andrew and Myuran are fairing.

“Even inside the walls of Nusakambangan's "Iron" prison, Bali nine duo Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran have been able to find opportunities for humour as they await their executions.

Chan and Sukumaran are already forming a close bond with another death row inmate in their isolation block, a Nigerian who Indonesian authorities continue to misname even though they arrested him 17 years ago.

When the visitors arrived, Chan remarked and laughed – "I spoke to Raheem. It was not his real name – it was a fake passport!" Raheem Agbaje Salami"s real name is Jamiu Owolabi Abashin.

The duo's fortitude is remarkable given the shadow of death that hangs over them.”

http://www.smh.com.au/world/bali-ni...-life-inside-iron-prison-20150307-13xx6i.html
 
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Indonesian president Joko Widodo: ‘Death penalty could go’

INDONESIAN President Joko Widodo says he does not rule out abolishing capital punishment in the future but he has defended his decision to reject clemency for foreigners on death row for drug smuggling.
In an interview to Al Jazeera broadcast on Saturday, Joko defended his decision to not halt the planned executions, which have sparked diplomatic tensions with Canberra.
“About 4.5 million people need to be rehabilitated because of the drugs. Please do not only see the traffickers but also the impact of the drugs trafficking,” he said.
“Please do visit the (drugs) rehabilitation centre when they are screaming due to the drugs addiction. People must see this from both side, not only from one side,” he added.

“I think we want to listen to what people want first. It’s still a long time to go through and I do not want to talk about the issue now,” he added.

http://www.news.com.au/world/indone...penalty-could-go/story-fndir2ev-1227253249388
 
  • #206
Well, the legal hearings are not going to drag out. They are all happening either this coming week or very soon thereafter.

- Chan and Sukumaran have an appeal on Thursday in the State Administrative Court
- Filipino woman last week had a judicial review hearing in Jogjakarta and the matter has now been sent to the Supreme Court for decision
- French prisoner also has an upcoming a judicial review hearing on Wednesday
- Nigerian prisoner who is housed in the cells next to Chan and Sukumaran has a State Administrative Court hearing tomorrow (Monday)
- Indonesian who lodged a judicial review 10 years ago, Zainal Abidin, learnt late last week it would finally be processed
- Brazilian prisoner suffering mental illness has been medically assessed. A decision is pending.

http://www.news.com.au/world/asia/b...n-agonising-wait/story-fnh81fz8-1227253061372
 
  • #207
So, who's feeling rather cynical about these legal hearings? I can't help but think it's just a show so they can't be accused of not following their own legal processes. Another part of me hopes that they are looking for a way out of the executions without looking like they're caving to international pressure. Either way I don't believe these are genuine legal hearings with no strings being pulled behind the scenes.
 
  • #208
It's all a big show now. Widodo is enjoying this attention IMO. They get to pretend they are tough on drugs and show the western world they won't be pushed around. Pity they won't clean up their own yard while preaching about the evils of drugs.
 
  • #209
BALI NINE BOYS 'DECENT HUMAN BEINGS', SAYS MIKE WILLESEE

Reporter Mike Willesee says he believes condemned Bali Nine ringleaders Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran stood out as role models in their Bali prison while on assignment there.

He says they have become ‘two decent human beings’.

Seven's Sunday Night returns this week with an intensely personal account of Willesee's time spent covering their story, including an exclusive interview with Sukumaran and video diary from Chan.

Andrew Chan recently published a candid, heartfelt letter to his teenage self about what might have been, but Sunday Night will also reveal what’s believed to be the inmate's last personal video.

The video features Chan's response to the previous round of executions and, even days from his execution, his thoughts on the possibility of a second chance.

"I guess what runs through my head is how precious life really is," Chan tells the camera.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/sunday-ni...-boys-decent-human-beings-says-mike-willesee/
 
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ONE of the men set to be executed alongside Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran has already written his list of final requests — that his death be the last execution in Indonesia.

And in the letter obtained by News Corp Australia he decries a system where the real drug dealers go free and get light sentences because they have the money to pay bribes while poor people like himself get the death penalty.

It comes as Prime Minister Tony Abbott continues to be snubbed by Indonesian President Joko Widodo over his last minute plea for the Bali Nine pair to avoid the firing squad.
Mr Abbott yesterday confirmed his request on Wednesday to speak directly to the Indonesian President about the pair had yet to be met.
“At this stage that hasn’t been able to be arranged,” Mr Abbott said.

http://www.news.com.au/national/bal...r-execution-date/story-fncynjr2-1227254105762
 
  • #213
And the former Indonesian Justice Minister, Amir Symasuddin, has accused the Indonesian Government of turning the turning the transfer of Chan and Sukumaran into a “death show”.

“I think any step that is related to the execution will be better if we also remember and maintain the feeling of the families and the convicted. No need for so much exposure, it seems like we made it into a death show,” Mr Symasuddin said at a Democratic Party conference in Bali.

“Moreover, their country (Australia), when they watched it (the transfer), they see that we have made it into a big show, like a roaring death show.”

http://www.news.com.au/national/bal...r-execution-date/story-fncynjr2-1227254105762
 
  • #214
So, who's feeling rather cynical about these legal hearings? I can't help but think it's just a show so they can't be accused of not following their own legal processes. Another part of me hopes that they are looking for a way out of the executions without looking like they're caving to international pressure. Either way I don't believe these are genuine legal hearings with no strings being pulled behind the scenes.

Well, here you go Brightbird. Some confirmation of what you have stated.


"Meanwhile, there have been some confusing comments from the coordinating minister for politics, legal and security, Tedjo Edhi Purdijatno, who reportedly told local media the legal processes of the Filipino woman would be sped up so the execution of the death row inmates could proceed."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-09/foreigner-on-death-row-in-indonesia-case-thrown-out/6292312
 
  • #215
Well, here you go Brightbird. Some confirmation of what you have stated.


"Meanwhile, there have been some confusing comments from the coordinating minister for politics, legal and security, Tedjo Edhi Purdijatno, who reportedly told local media the legal processes of the Filipino woman would be sped up so the execution of the death row inmates could proceed."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-09/foreigner-on-death-row-in-indonesia-case-thrown-out/6292312

Oh my that sounds ominous.
 
  • #216
You are right, TGY. Things are not good. And I think it will only be a matter of a short time before the executions proceed. :(


Four warships have been deployed to Nusakambangan to ‘safeguard’ the island’s jails before the next round of executions.
Prasetyo said he still intended to execute the convicts simultaneously, as it may create a “psychological burden” if they went to the firing squad separately.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...f-death-row-prisoners-including-bali-nine-duo


Indonesian demonstrators have returned five bags of coins to the Australian embassy to 'repay' Australian aid after the 2004 tsunami and warned they would bring their government down if the Bali nine executions were cancelled.
The protesters, some of whom were from a Muslim students' organisation called PII, called on Tony Abbott "aka the big mouth" to apologise to the Indonesian people.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/asia/6...alian-embassy-to-repay-boxing-day-tsunami-aid


Prime Minister Tony Abbott was on Tuesday still waiting to speak to Indonesian President Joko Widodo about the Bali Nine case – five days after Mr Abbott requested the conversation.
"The request is a standing request. It hasn't yet been accommodated, but it's a standing request and I hope that I can have a conversation with him as soon as possible," Mr Abbott said.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...-call-over-bali-nine-duo-20150310-1408y2.html
 
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Indonesia could release 10,000 asylum seekers to Australia if Canberra continues to antagonise the republic over the execution of the Bali nine duo, an Indonesian minister has warned.

This would create a "human tsunami", according to the Coordinating Minister for Political, Legal and Security Affairs, Tedjo Edhy Purdijatno.


"If Canberra keeps doing things that displease Indonesia, Jakarta will surely let the illegal immigrants go to Australia"
Coordinating Minister for Political, Legal and Security Affairs, Tedjo Edhy Purdijatno

http://www.smh.com.au/world/bali-ni...sunami-of-asylum-seekers-20150310-140dhn.html
 
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Indonesia could release 10,000 asylum seekers to Australia if Canberra continues to antagonise the republic over the execution of the Bali nine duo, an Indonesian minister has warned.

This would create a "human tsunami", according to the Coordinating Minister for Political, Legal and Security Affairs, Tedjo Edhy Purdijatno.


"If Canberra keeps doing things that displease Indonesia, Jakarta will surely let the illegal immigrants go to Australia"
Coordinating Minister for Political, Legal and Security Affairs, Tedjo Edhy Purdijatno

http://www.smh.com.au/world/bali-ni...sunami-of-asylum-seekers-20150310-140dhn.html


Along with the snippy comments from the ''students'' with bags of $ for repayment, this whole charade has done a lot to expose some uncomfortable truths about that part of the world. I would hope there would be a lot more vocal support world wide for Australia at this point MOO
 
  • #219
Well that's just bad taste isn't it. It's bad enough that asylum seekers are used as political football by Australian politicians. Now Indonesia's doing it too. It's obviously an attempt to embarrass the Abbott government.

Indonesia must not follow our politics if they think Abbott needs help embarrassing himself. Haha sorry, couldn't resist.
 
  • #220
I was wondering if they had enough leaky boats to send 10,000 people to us. :no:
 

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