GUILTY Bali - Sheila von Wiese Mack, 62, found dead in suitcase, 12 Aug 2014 #2

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Not that the above is pertinent but dagnabbit this is the exact reason I love Websleuths so much - bc of how intelligent minds can feed off of one another with their ideas.

So looking deeper into this, with all of the money Sheila supposedly had, why not do the upgrades herself through a contractor? Was there money issues to have to sell it for pennies compared to what it is worth? It's a famed house with alot of historical value behind it, which is why it's worth more than some other houses in the same neighborhood. Taxes alone on that piece of property are almost 30 grand! Jeesh I complain paying 6 lmao!

I remember reading about some real estate woes that she had taken a hit from. For all we know, the reason why the offers kept falling through was that the house didn't appraise for what she was attempting to sell it for. I don't know if she had $200,000 plus to put into the house, but why go through a renovation like that when it's only you (and perhaps your daughter) living there. The upkeep alone must be a small fortune. A condo on Lake Shore isn't anything to sneeze at. :)
 
I remember reading about some real estate woes that she had taken a hit from. For all we know, the reason why the offers kept falling through was that the house didn't appraise for what she was attempting to sell it for. I don't know if she had $200,000 plus to put into the house, but why go through a renovation like that when it's only you (and perhaps your daughter) living there. The upkeep alone must be a small fortune. A condo on Lake Shore isn't anything to sneeze at. :)

Exactly. Sheila was over 60yrs old. And there were only two people living in the Linden house. Most people at this age start looking to downsize because it's just a lot of work to take care of a large home. Especially one as large as the one Sheila had. And let's face it, everything she had at that point, including the house, came from her husband's estate. We have no idea whether Sheila herself had any property or savings of her own going into the marriage but it doesn't appear that way considering they had to re-mortgage the Linden house after JM took ill. So my point is, the house might not have meant all that much to SWM other than what she could get for it when she decided it was time to downsize and get out from under a heavy debt load because of that house. She personally paid nothing for it. So anything she got for it was a windfall to her. She was done with that house, done with living in the suburbs because her child was grown and out of school, so she wanted something downtown, close to her love of the arts. A nice condo with a gorgeous view of the lake and no upkeep sounds like just the ticket. Would have done the same thing if I was in her position.

Like I posted earlier, at the point in her life right before she died, she probably had a net worth of about a million dollars. Plenty to carry her into her old age. And using points for travel shows she knew how to save a buck. She was comfortable socially and money wise, but still had the problem of her relationship with her daughter. Which she tried to work on and which ultimately led to her untimely death. So sad.

MOO
 
Exactly. Sheila was over 60yrs old. And there were only two people living in the Linden house. Most people at this age start looking to downsize because it's just a lot of work to take care of a large home. Especially one as large as the one Sheila had. And let's face it, everything she had at that point, including the house, came from her husband's estate. We have no idea whether Sheila herself had any property or savings of her own going into the marriage but it doesn't appear that way considering they had to re-mortgage the Linden house after JM took ill. So my point is, the house might not have meant all that much to SWM other than what she could get for it when she decided it was time to downsize and get out from under a heavy debt load because of that house. She personally paid nothing for it. So anything she got for it was a windfall to her. She was done with that house, done with living in the suburbs because her child was grown and out of school, so she wanted something downtown, close to her love of the arts. A nice condo with a gorgeous view of the lake and no upkeep sounds like just the ticket. Would have done the same thing if I was in her position.

Like I posted earlier, at the point in her life right before she died, she probably had a net worth of about a million dollars. Plenty to carry her into her old age. And using points for travel shows she knew how to save a buck. She was comfortable socially and money wise, but still had the problem of her relationship with her daughter. Which she tried to work on and which ultimately led to her untimely death. So sad.

MOO

Heather could also have been collecting social security money- especially upon her father's death, but maybe longer if he was deemed "disabled"? She might have been able to collect past 18 if she, herself, was considered disabled.
 
The tragedy is the way SWM lost her life, and who is responsible.
Figure, Sheila could've lived comfortably for another 30+ years.
She could have gone on enjoying her life.

However, I shudder thinking about her daughter ever taking care of her mother in her advanced years. As you get older, you think about stuff like that.
 

It's almost as if that ugly, evil act of killing her mother has manifested in her outward appearance.

That lump skeeves me out :eek: and if a horn starts growing out of it I'll be :hills:
 
I should have been clearer...do we know what the house was sold for AFTER the remodel?

It has not sold. Was listed in July for 1.7 million. It's had one price reduction to 1.679 million and that is its current listing price.
 
Also another question for our lawyers, here in the USA, if a person is accused of committing murder and they are indigent, the US supplies a capital offense death penalty qualified attorney/public defender. IOW, the US foots the bill for legal fees in certain cases. Well what about if the crime is in another nation? If said person is indigent, would the US supply a capital qualified defense attorney from that country? Would the US Consulate foot the bill for representation?

Absolutely 100% no. Never. No way. These two are solidly on their own.
 
It's almost as if that ugly, evil act of killing her mother has manifested in her outward appearance.

That lump skeeves me out :eek: and if a horn starts growing out of it I'll be :hills:

Unless that lump is a big zit trying to get to the surface, a bad photo angle or just something that she has when she scrunched her face like that, can we wonder if maybe Sheila got one shot in during her struggle?

MOO
 
The tragedy is the way SWM lost her life, and who is responsible.
Figure, Sheila could've lived comfortably for another 30+ years.
She could have gone on enjoying her life.

However, I shudder thinking about her daughter ever taking care of her mother in her advanced years. As you get older, you think about stuff like that.

You know I never thought of that. Poor woman was doomed no matter what. :(

MOO
 
James Mack's estate

Has anyone here looked at the actual doc's filed in probate court? Are they avail online?

Is it poss -
- it is still open - that his estate. is still receiving royalties for his music compositions?
- his royalties from that were assigned to a trust he established,
so the $ does not go thru probate est, so is not a matter of pub record?

- that Sheila has income from royalties, either thru probate est, or trust?

Just wondering.

Good question about the royalties. Although considering SWM was selling his original compositions in a garage sale and he spent the bulk of his career teaching, I'm not sure if he would have negotiated royalties for the use of his work or just sold it outright.

MOO
 
Gitana (or another lawyer), I asked this at the end of the first thread but it was right when it closed, so I think it might have been forgotten. Does anyone know the legalities of a will payout in such a case? I'm quoting my comment from that first thread. Many thanks! The reason I'm asking is bc I think if a person goes to prison and is convicted of a capital crime in the USA (for a crime committed here as well), their accounts are either frozen, allocated to family, or seized by the govt for their incarceration payment so to speak. But what about if the crime was committed overseas? Can our govt seize those funds as well?

Hi again, Jersey. I think accounts are only frozen if there was a financial crime and stolen monies many be in an account. Otherwise, any state or federal benefits like SSI will stop coming until they are out of prison but accounts stay open unless the bank sends a letter to the last known address about a lack of activity and an intent to give the money to the state, and that letter remains unopened. But assets can be taken after incarceration ends (through death or release), to pay back any costs of the incarceration.
 
I see Tommy's Facebook has now been set to private so someone is accessing it.
 
O/T: Here's an idea, how about placing one of the following flowers in HM & TS' holding cells?
That ought to get them talking and fast just to get away from the thing!

1x1

Botanic Garden boasts that it's getting a 'corpse flower'

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...anic-garden-corpse-flower-20140829-story.html
 
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