Baltimore, MD - Container Ship Strikes Francis Scott Key Bridge - Mass Casualty Situation

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Jsizzle said:
I’m so sick of this crap. Those poor souls are still missing and this is what they care about?! Give me a break.
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Everyone is trying to politicize/monetize everything.

However, it gives me the idea. Perhaps renaming the ill-fated bridge after Kay is not a good idea, they don't do it with the ships, do they?

So, much I don't have a clue about Michel, I know that Baltimore is now in dire straights, financially. Why not auction the name for the new bridge, and whatever corporation/entity/person puts in the most money (and pays upfront), the bridge will bear his/her name. The money goes to the port of Baltimore.
 
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Charlot123 said:
Everyone is trying to politicize/monetize everything.

However, it gives me the idea. Perhaps renaming the ill-fated bridge after Kay is not a good idea, they don't do it with the ships, do they?

So, much I don't have a clue about Michel, I know that Baltimore is now in dire straights, financially. Why not auction the name for the new bridge, and whatever corporation/entity/person puts in the most money (and pays upfront), the bridge will bear his/her name. The money goes to the port of Baltimore.
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My understanding is that public structures are named by our government repesentatives, so any person or group is free to lobby their government representatives to name or rename a public structure and it will be decided upon by the government. I would think this would be the federal government, since my understanding is that the feds will be providing the funding for the rebuilding of the bridge.

Taxpayers have a say in the naming of public structures through their government representatives, so the auctioning of naming rights to the highest bidder is not appropriate, IMO. That's our money that is paying for the bridge reconstruction - and so we have a say in its naming or renaming, through our elected representatives. Should a private individual decide to pay for the rebuilding of the bridge and own it privately, then it would be their right to name it as they choose. But I don't see that happening here.
 
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After completing a week-long barge journey from Galveston, Texas, a massive 200-ton hydraulic salvage grab docked at Sparrows Point this weekend, ready to lend its formidable capabilities to the ongoing efforts.



Massive 200-Ton Hydraulic Salvage Grab Arrives to Aid Francis Scott Key Bridge Recovery

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Massive 200-Ton Hydraulic Salvage Grab Arrives to Aid Francis Scott Key Bridge Recovery Operations

A crucial piece of equipment has arrived at the scene of the Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse, promising to accelerate the salvage operations and recovery of the estimated 50,000 tons of wreckage. After completing a week-long barge journey from Galveston, Texas, a massive 200-ton hydraulic salvage
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  • #647
www.dailymail.co.uk

Baltimore sues owners of Dali cargo ship that crashed into bridge

The 985-ft Dali vessel was manned by 'an incompetent crew' and set sail despite several prior warnings about its safety, the lawsuit states.
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The city of Baltimore is suing the owner and operator of the ship that crashed into Francis Scott Key Bridge last month, claiming the vessel was 'unseaworthy' when it left port.

The 985-ft Dali vessel was manned by 'an incompetent crew' and set sail despite several prior warnings about its safety, the lawsuit states.

Six construction crew workers were killed in the accident, which brought one of America's busiest ports to a grinding halt.

In court documents filed on Monday, city officials, including Mayor Brandon Scott, say the ship's parent company, Grace Ocean Private Ltd, and its operator, Synergy Marine Group, were 'potentially criminally negligent'.

The city claims the ship set sail despite 'alarms showing an inconsistent power supply' and accuses the boat's owner of supplying it with 'unseaworthy equipment, systems, and appurtenances'.
 
  • #648
Fourth temporary channel opens. BTW St. John is in New Brunswick, not to be confused with St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador.
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Fourth temporary channel opens bypassing bridge collapse site

The first cargo ship passed through a newly opened deep-water channel in Baltimore on Thursday.
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Early Thursday morning, the Key Bridge Response Unified Command opened a fourth, 35-foot deep, temporary channel through the crash site, calling it a huge milestone in the recovery effort.

From Fort Armistead Park, 11 News got a view of the first vessel to move through the new channel. It was the cargo ship "Balsa 94" that made history as the first large commercial cargo ship out of the Port of Baltimore since the bridge collapse on March 26. Sailing under a Panama flag, the Balsa is headed for St. John, Canada.
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"(It's) a great day for Unified Command, the maritime industry, and more importantly, the Port of Baltimore. Now, we're being able to move deep draft ships inbound and outbound to the port," U.S. Coast Guard Cmdr. Baxter Smoak said.
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"They'll have a tugboat ahead in stern. We also have two tugboats in the vicinity of the Dali, as well as one on standby as they transit that really narrow channel compared to what they normally would have available," Smoak said.
 
  • #649
35' draft doesn't seem very deep for cargo vessels. But yeah, it's a start. People will be happy to see ships moving again.
 
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LadyL said:
like who cares right now (not aimed at you Dotta, rather the people in the article)
there's people still missing
and it wont be rebuilt for quite awhile
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Me, (puts hand up). I think we should move away from naming publicly owned structures after people and corporations. Knowing how much time these changes take to put into effect, now is a good time to start the conversation. We can recover the lost, reopen the channel, and talk about renaming the bridge all the same time. They are not mutually exclusive topics.
 
  • #651
Jsizzle said:
I’m so sick of this crap. Those poor souls are still missing and this is what they care about?! Give me a break.
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They won't succeed.. thankfully the majority still rules
 
  • #652
The fifth body was recovered at the site of the Key Bridge collapse, per Unified Command. The victim is 49yo Miguel Luna Gonzalez, of Glen Burnie. His body was found inside of a red truck. The Unified Command believes there were six victims total.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1785880704817000559
 
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The body of Miguel Angel Luna Gonzalez, 49, was located inside a submerged truck in the Patapsco River, according to the Unified Command.

Salvage teams located one of the missing construction vehicles and notified the Maryland Department of State Police, officials said.

Gonzalez was located inside the truck and pulled out by underwater recovery teams.
www.cbsnews.com

Body of fifth construction worker recovered from Key Bridge wreckage site

The body of a fifth missing construction worker was recovered Wednesday from the wreckage site of the Key Bridge collapse.
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FBI seized phones and laptops of Indian crew on Dali ship​

while probing Baltimore's Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse.​


The FBI seized phones and laptops belonging to crew on board the Dali cargo ship that crashed into the Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore last month.

On April 15, the FBI released a statement to the media that agents were on board the Dali conducting court-authorized
'law enforcement activity'.

Crew members were eager to speak to trained Chaplain Associates from the Seamen's Church Institute (SCI) in their native languages when they finally boarded the ship.

The chaplains learned from crew that their mobile phones and computers had been taken by the FBI as part of its investigation,
meaning they had lost their contact numbers, WeChat, and WhatsApp applications that they used to connect with family and friends -
which made the stranded crewmembers even more isolated on board.

On their second visit,
the chaplains brought new SIM cards and other items on board the ship to give to crewmembers,
the Maritime Executive revealed.

SCI workers contacted the U.S. Coast Guard authorities to fend for the crewmembers,
and to find out if and when their phones would be returned by the FBI.

The ship’s operator provided six new mobile phones the next day to give to the crew -
and promised that their original phones would at some point be returned."

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FBI seized phones and laptops of Indian crew on Dali ship during probe

The FBI seized phones and laptops belonging to crew on board the Dali cargo ship that crashed into the Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore last month.
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Dotta said:

FBI seized phones and laptops of Indian crew on Dali ship​

while probing Baltimore's Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse.​


The FBI seized phones and laptops belonging to crew on board the Dali cargo ship that crashed into the Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore last month.

On April 15, the FBI released a statement to the media that agents were on board the Dali conducting court-authorized 'law enforcement activity.

Crew members were eager to speak to trained Chaplain Associates from the Seamen's Church Institute (SCI) in their native languages when they finally boarded the ship.

The chaplains learned from crew that their mobile phones and computers had been taken by the FBI as part of its investigation,
meaning they had lost their contact numbers, WeChat, and WhatsApp applications that they used to connect with family and friends -
which made the stranded crewmembers even more isolated on board.

On their second visit,
the chaplains brought new SIM cards and other items on board the ship to give to crewmembers,
the Maritime Executive revealed.

SCI workers contacted the U.S. Coast Guard authorities to fend for the crewmembers,
and to find out if and when their phones would be returned by the FBI.

The ship’s operator provided six new mobile phones the next day to give to the crew -
and promised that their original phones would at some point be returned."

www-dailymail-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org

FBI seized phones and laptops of Indian crew on Dali ship during probe

The FBI seized phones and laptops belonging to crew on board the Dali cargo ship that crashed into the Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore last month.
www-dailymail-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org www-dailymail-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org
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That this investigation was almost from the start led by the FBI and continues to be, including search warrants such as these, is very interesting.
 
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well I'm relieved for the families that they've all been recovered
 
  • #658
musicaljoke said:
Me, (puts hand up). I think we should move away from naming publicly owned structures after people and corporations. Knowing how much time these changes take to put into effect, now is a good time to start the conversation. We can recover the lost, reopen the channel, and talk about renaming the bridge all the same time. They are not mutually exclusive topics.
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I agree with this! I think they could use a geographic type name and depoliticize it.
 
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shetalksinstereo said:
I agree with this! I think they could use a geographic type name and depoliticize it.
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I live faaar away (another continent) and this bridge is simply
Baltimore Bridge for me :)
 
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shetalksinstereo said:
I agree with this! I think they could use a geographic type name and depoliticize it.
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How about:
  • Patapsco River Bridge, or
  • Baltimore Beltway Bridge
Simple yet monolithic.
MOO
 
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