Banned for a George Bush T-shirt

[nanandjim]

This person wore the t-shirt to incite a reaction. He would be the first person to cry like a baby if someone were to approach him and say something about it. I'm glad that the airlines were courageous enough to remove this guy. He is an idiot, IMO.

 

[windovervocalcords]

And now an American schoolboy has had his right to mock the president upheld in court.

Zachery Guiles, who sued school officials after he was made to censor a T-shirt which labelled Bush "Chicken-Hawk-In-Chief" and portrayed him as an alcohol and cocaine user, won an appeal on Wednesday granting him the right to wear the T-shirt to school.

The 2nd US Circuit Court of Appeals ruled in favour of Guiles, who through his parents claimed his free speech rights had been violated when school officials made him put duct tape over parts of his T-shirt.

The shirt showed Bush surrounded by mounds of cocaine, a razor blade, a straw and a martini.
http://english.people.com.cn/200609/01/eng20060901_298741.html

 

[nanandjim]

And now an American schoolboy has had his right to mock the president upheld in court...

Wow...What an accomplishment...I know that I would have that fact bolded and prominently displayed in my holiday newsletter sent to family and friends.

 

[IrishMist]

And now an American schoolboy has had his right to mock the president upheld in court.

Zachery Guiles, who sued school officials after he was made to censor a T-shirt which labelled Bush "Chicken-Hawk-In-Chief" and portrayed him as an alcohol and cocaine user, won an appeal on Wednesday granting him the right to wear the T-shirt to school.

The 2nd US Circuit Court of Appeals ruled in favour of Guiles, who through his parents claimed his free speech rights had been violated when school officials made him put duct tape over parts of his T-shirt.

The shirt showed Bush surrounded by mounds of cocaine, a razor blade, a straw and a martini.
http://english.people.com.cn/200609/01/eng20060901_298741.html

The district that my kids attended wouldn't allow this based on the pictures of drugs and drinks. Nothing to do with the political aspect.

I personally cringe when I see kids wearing t-shirts that advertise alcohol.

 

[windovervocalcords]

The district that my kids attended wouldn't allow this based on the pictures of drugs and drinks. Nothing to do with the political aspect.

I personally cringe when I see kids wearing t-shirts that advertise alcohol.

Our local high school had to refine "dress code" when kids started showing up in pajamas.

 

[IrishMist]

Our local high school had to refine "dress code" when kids started showing up in pajamas.

That was all the rage when my youngest went through. Don't know what they did about it. Don't follow it all that much now that mine are done.

 

[windovervocalcords]

Wow...What an accomplishment...I know that I would have that fact bolded and prominently displayed in my holiday newsletter sent to family and friends.

If I had pulled a stunt like this in my family there would have been "hell to pay." I am astounded at the parents.

This boys family probably is putting this in the family holiday newsletter. Apparently free speech is a big deal to them.

I think it would have made more sense to send the kid home to change his shirt. The duct tape thing sounds just plain silly.

 

[Pandora]

And now an American schoolboy has had his right to mock the president upheld in court.

Zachery Guiles, who sued school officials after he was made to censor a T-shirt which labelled Bush "Chicken-Hawk-In-Chief" and portrayed him as an alcohol and cocaine user, won an appeal on Wednesday granting him the right to wear the T-shirt to school.

The 2nd US Circuit Court of Appeals ruled in favour of Guiles, who through his parents claimed his free speech rights had been violated when school officials made him put duct tape over parts of his T-shirt.

The shirt showed Bush surrounded by mounds of cocaine, a razor blade, a straw and a martini.
http://english.people.com.cn/200609/01/eng20060901_298741.html

The dress code at most schools prohibits the wearing of any clothing w/ references to drugs/tobacco/alcohol unless they are D.A.R.E./S.A.D.D./etc., shirts. I'm not surprised the school objected on those grounds. You'll notice he was required to place duct tape over sections of the shirt; I'd be willing to bet the sections covered were those w/ drugs/alcohol/straw. The rest of the shirt obviously wasn't the problem or they'd have made him turn it inside out.

 

[narlacat]

You don't have to darlin. He's not your president!

We've been through this before Jeana.

You know why Australians don't like him.

Iraq.

 

[narlacat]

This person wore the t-shirt to incite a reaction. He would be the first person to cry like a baby if someone were to approach him and say something about it. I'm glad that the airlines were courageous enough to remove this guy. He is an idiot, IMO.

Someone did approach him and he didn't cry lol

Courageous isn't a word I would use.

 

[windovervocalcords]

The dress code at most schools prohibits the wearing of any clothing w/ references to drugs/tobacco/alcohol unless they are D.A.R.E./S.A.D.D./etc., shirts. I'm not surprised the school objected on those grounds. You'll notice he was required to place duct tape over sections of the shirt; I'd be willing to bet the sections covered were those w/ drugs/alcohol/straw. The rest of the shirt obviously wasn't the problem or they'd have made him turn it inside out.

I don't think the high school was unreasonable in their request. If the boy had been in college nothing would have happened. At least, I don't think so (unless there is some Homeland Security terrorism t-shirt profile that I haven't heard about.)

I thought it was interesting that the story from a Chinese newspaper is that the boy had the right to sue over wearing the shirt that criticized the President. In China, that would not be allowed, is the point.

 

[narlacat]

Being an Aussie and commenting on happenings in the US here is a courageous act.

It didn't happen in the US, it happened in London.

But yes courage is one of my strong points

 

[windovervocalcords]

I like your American president that was in that movie last night called..........American President...................lol....I really like that movie

Martin Sheen is pretty good as president too.

 

[2sisters]

People don't like Bush. Who cares? The Bush arguments get old. He's done dumb things. What leader hasn't. The next president will be mocked too. People will always fault whoever leads the US. It is only natural.

 

[Sally]

That's a good question.

Probably cuss words.

ETA: Or anything X-rated.

Where do you draw the line?

How about no vulgar language, and please cover your butt crack. It's not as cute as you may think.
ETA: "you " does not mean you Irish mist..just folks in general..

 

[Jeana (DP)]

We've been through this before Jeana.

You know why Australians don't like him.

Iraq.

I don't like the fact that my countrymen and women are in Iraq, but the fact remains that this isn't the political forum and I don't want it discussed here.

 

[windovervocalcords]

I have no interest in discussing politics in the news of the bizarre. But I have a question.

The first post in this thread is that a man wearing an anti-bush t shirt is taken off the plane. He is removed for wearing something that makes a political statement, that is that he does not agree with or like GWB.

He is asked to remove it not becausethe t shirt is disrespectful to GW but because that is perceived in some way as security issue and something that could "affect the sensitivities of the passengers". That act in itself seems to have some "politics" in it, in the sense that what does the "sensitivities of the passengers mean?"

That statement moves it beyond a security issue into the arena of politics.

It used to be that sometimes threads were removed from one forum and placed in another. Not sure the circumstances but it seemed when the topic veered into another arena or some more social category.

The story fits the definition of bizarre news. It also fits the definition of politics. I'm not sure what "cross posting" means but would starting a thread on this story in the political forum be acceptable? Or would the thread have to be moved to the parking lot or some such?

 

[narlacat]

I don't like the fact that my countrymen and women are in Iraq, but the fact remains that this isn't the political forum and I don't want it discussed here.

Ok, no worries.

 

[Jeana (DP)]

I have no interest in discussing politics in the news of the bizarre. But I have a question.

The first post in this thread is that a man wearing an anti-bush t shirt is taken off the plane. He is removed for wearing something that makes a political statement, that is that he does not agree with or like GWB.

He is asked to remove it not becausethe t shirt is disrespectful to GW but because that is perceived in some way as security issue and something that could "affect the sensitivities of the passengers". That act in itself seems to have some "politics" in it, in the sense that what does the "sensitivities of the passengers mean?"

That statement moves it beyond a security issue into the arena of politics.

It used to be that sometimes threads were removed from one forum and placed in another. Not sure the circumstances but it seemed when the topic veered into another arena or some more social category.

The story fits the definition of bizarre news. It also fits the definition of politics. I'm not sure what "cross posting" means but would starting a thread on this story in the political forum be acceptable? Or would the thread have to be moved to the parking lot or some such?

You may absolutely start a thread in the political forum to discuss this.

 

[windovervocalcords]

You may absolutely start a thread in the political forum to discuss this.

Ok--

For the benefit of ease and appropriateness anyone who is interested in exploring political issues related to this bizarre case is invited to the Political Forum.

All views welcome.