Belize - Faye Lin Cannon, 13, brutally slain, San Pedro, 3 July 2017 *American parents arrested*

  • #261
A few people have noted that the charges against the Doehms have been drastically reduced. It may not play into this forum's ethos to consider that a person may not be guilty of what they are charged with; that's why most countries have a legal system so that evidence is weighed--not giving the biggest voice the say on what a person's punishment should be even before evidence is weighed.

Not saying AT ALL that there is not responsibility on the Doehms for the death of Faye Lin; that's a given IMO. But honestly the conclusions jumped to; Belize is not the US! Not, not, not!

BTW I have communicated with one of the parties charged. This does not mean I don't believe there is culpability in Faye Lin's death. Just that I see so much on here that's waaaaay out there. Maybe people like that. I thought this site was about sensitivity and idealism and championing the underdog. Seeming more like a mob to me; what if new things come to light? Can members accept that? Or prefer to feel outrage rather than seek truth?

Maybe there could be outrage at a banana republic's total disregard for the legal process? For letting known criminals go for bribes (the Doehms BTW do not have the money for bribes) or because they're related to a cop on SP? It really is that simple in Belize. It is not the US! Giving this Espat guy the time of day; what can I say? he is using this for attention for a platform to run; it's a simple country; outrage and attention will get you everywhere along with Jesus. Sheesh.

I think you've missed the mark with your bolded comment (bolded my me). Many people on here have said we don't know what happened. I'm going to guess that just about everyone on here wants to see real evidence of guilt and understand the true story.

We want to know what really happened.
Give the people here some credit. Take a look at other threads and you will get the idea.
If people sound like they are upset with this couple, it is because no one has reported seeing the two middle girls in a long time. I hope there is someone who will step forward who will say that they saw them and they were healthy. Yet, most of all we just want information, no matter where that may lead us. It's facts that we are after.

We are upset for the children.
We think that the display of "lynching" mentality locally is over the top when people don't have all the facts.
(My use of term "we" does not imply everyone, but rather my take on people's comments in general.)

It sounds like you know one of the individuals. I'm sorry that you have to go through such a troubling situation.
 
  • #262
Thank you Snoopster. Well said.
 
  • #263
Thank you Snoopster. Well said.

In total agreement - Posters here and on other threads tend to be fair and balanced, stay informed through updates and adjust comments/ opinions accordingly! imo.
 
  • #264
dotr; Belize has a very high rate of domestic abuse, sex traficcing, rape, incest; those people yelling have all been victims or are simply running for office; it's the only way other than drug running to get rich. Unless you have the money to start a tourist business and most won't. I believe the Dohms are responsible for Faye Lin's death. I don't believe they murdered her. My opinion.
Do you believe either of them sexual assaulted her?

Have you watched the video by the prosecution or representative of the courts, stating that Faye's injuries as described by the coroner in the note section of the autopsy, read like a horror script?
 
  • #265
I apologise for posting the link to the bystander with only hearsay info. However, as was mentioned we all just want info/results. This is very personal to me, having an adopted daughter that I discovered was being abused by someone close. But as soon as I discovered this I did something about it. As a mother, NOTHING would have stood in the way from protecting my daughter of any sort and that is what I am struggling with in all of this.
 
  • #266
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  • #267
I apologise for posting the link to the bystander with only hearsay info. However, as was mentioned we all just want info/results. This is very personal to me, having an adopted daughter that I discovered was being abused by someone close. But as soon as I discovered this I did something about it. As a mother, NOTHING would have stood in the way from protecting my daughter of any sort and that is what I am struggling with in all of this.

I'm so sorry about your daughter angiebubs. That's a horrible situation. I'm glad you found out and we're able to do something. I can understand your struggle with this case. :heartbeat:

I think the situation with AD is very difficult because we honestly don't know what she knew and when. It doesn't look good, of course, because of her statement about Faye staying in her room for three weeks. That's quite damning, but we don't know yet what was really happening. On the other hand, I'm not surprised anymore by what mothers (and fathers) do to their children and the lengths they go to avoid consequences. So I will wait and see how this plays out, thinking all the while of poor Faye and her sisters.
JMO
 
  • #268
I apologise for posting the link to the bystander with only hearsay info. However, as was mentioned we all just want info/results. This is very personal to me, having an adopted daughter that I discovered was being abused by someone close. But as soon as I discovered this I did something about it. As a mother, NOTHING would have stood in the way from protecting my daughter of any sort and that is what I am struggling with in all of this.

I applaud you on your quick action for your daughter angiebubs. That is how it should always be.

I am wary of AD's apparent response to all this as well. I'm concerned that she's going to play the victim card herself, claim abuse from a controlling husband and throw all of the blame DD's way. I find it very hard to believe that she was controlled or abused in any way. From what we've been able to deduce, it appears that the Rubimoon business was in AD's name. She started that business and got it up and running as a wholesale business when she was still happily married to DC whom she called "the love of her life" on her first website for the company. After her marriage to DD and their move to Belize, she was able to freely continue to travel by herself, to Bali and Florida on behalf of the business several times a year, leaving her children in the care of DD. She was also able to travel to Germany by herself to visit family, go to Mexico for cosmetic procedures and I believe Florida for her own medical problems. Not something that an abused or controlled woman would be doing IMO.

In Belize, she worked at the store from noon until 6pm, not a very long work day. She spent "family" time relaxing on the beach in the mornings or doing her exercises according to her. She spent a lot of time on facebook and online in general promoting her business. None of the children went to school with any regularity or worked in the store. None of them appear to have any online presence. Not sure what they did with their time. We've seen evidence of one month long family "vacation" to Mexico that involved the children in the 5 years that they had been living in Belize.

DD supposedly worked for a transit type business and lost his job as a result of these charges. Not sure if that was a full time or part time job or how long he had it although it's been noted in trip advisor reviews that he was also in the store a lot. The main income for the family seems to have been provided by AD's business and her child support from DC. She was the one controlling all aspects of the business, not DD. There was nothing tying her to DD financially, if anything it was the other way around. Even now she has managed to post her bail but he cannot. These are not the actions of an abused or controlled woman. This is a strong woman who is totally in control of herself and her life IMO. If she had any inkling that her new husband was treating any of her children in an inappropriate or abusive way, there was nothing tying her to him. She could have thrown him out or closed up her shop and gotten on a plane to the US with those children and left him in Belize to make his own way. She was strong enough to leave the first husband for him so she was strong enough to leave him too if she thought she had reason to. There appears to be nothing to show that she was a dedicated and loving mother who put her children first before anything. Everything I've seen shows a pretty self absorbed woman to me.

While none of us have any idea what really happened to Faye Lin, well cared for children do not normally die at the age of 13 for no apparent reason. And AD supposedly claimed that Faye Lin had been ill for 3 weeks. She got herself to a doctor just fine when she had symptoms, why not Faye Lin? It appears as though none of the children have ever been to a doctor in Belize. Not sure if they ever went to one in Hawaii either. I believe they also did not go to school there. It appears they were isolated for most of their lives. These are not the actions of a concerned and loving parent whose primary concern is her children.

So whatever happened to Faye Lin, IMO at the very least, both AD and DD should be charged with neglect and cruelty. I don't think we're ever going to find out the truth about what injuries she actually sustained, or at least be fully comfortable with the coroner's report that is being presented in court, even if the prosecution claims that her injuries, according to the report, "read like a horror script". The main injuries which resulted from severe chest compression could very well have been a poor attempt at CPR either by the parents or the police. And if we can't trust the coroner's report, those injuries may have been sustained after Faye Lin was already deceased. I'd love to see an actual copy of that report as well as the original police report. I must say it appears that anyone who seems to have lived, lives in, knows someone who lives or has lived in or has visited the country themselves seem to have very little confidence in any of the government services or the educational level of anyone employed in them. I suppose we should consider that warning when discussing these cases.

Since Faye Lin is American, has anyone read that the FBI, who seem to be a fixture in the country due to the drug running into the US, have helped out with the investigation or forensics in this case like they did in the Francesca M and Drew D murder case?

MOO
 
  • #269
In the initial police interviews it was stated that there was "assistance" from FBI.
Then , of course, stories from people about the FBI interviewing neighbors (the day that AD and DD were arrested) etc, which * I * personally was reluctant to believe at that early time . But who knows ....
 
  • #270
I applaud you on your quick action for your daughter angiebubs. That is how it should always be.

I am wary of AD's apparent response to all this as well. I'm concerned that she's going to play the victim card herself, claim abuse from a controlling husband and throw all of the blame DD's way. I find it very hard to believe that she was controlled or abused in any way. From what we've been able to deduce, it appears that the Rubimoon business was in AD's name. She started that business and got it up and running as a wholesale business when she was still happily married to DC whom she called "the love of her life" on her first website for the company. After her marriage to DD and their move to Belize, she was able to freely continue to travel by herself, to Bali and Florida on behalf of the business several times a year, leaving her children in the care of DD. She was also able to travel to Germany by herself to visit family, go to Mexico for cosmetic procedures and I believe Florida for her own medical problems. Not something that an abused or controlled woman would be doing IMO.

In Belize, she worked at the store from noon until 6pm, not a very long work day. She spent "family" time relaxing on the beach in the mornings or doing her exercises according to her. She spent a lot of time on facebook and online in general promoting her business. None of the children went to school with any regularity or worked in the store. None of them appear to have any online presence. Not sure what they did with their time. We've seen evidence of one month long family "vacation" to Mexico that involved the children in the 5 years that they had been living in Belize.

DD supposedly worked for a transit type business and lost his job as a result of these charges. Not sure if that was a full time or part time job or how long he had it although it's been noted in trip advisor reviews that he was also in the store a lot. The main income for the family seems to have been provided by AD's business and her child support from DC. She was the one controlling all aspects of the business, not DD. There was nothing tying her to DD financially, if anything it was the other way around. Even now she has managed to post her bail but he cannot. These are not the actions of an abused or controlled woman. This is a strong woman who is totally in control of herself and her life IMO. If she had any inkling that her new husband was treating any of her children in an inappropriate or abusive way, there was nothing tying her to him. She could have thrown him out or closed up her shop and gotten on a plane to the US with those children and left him in Belize to make his own way. She was strong enough to leave the first husband for him so she was strong enough to leave him too if she thought she had reason to. There appears to be nothing to show that she was a dedicated and loving mother who put her children first before anything. Everything I've seen shows a pretty self absorbed woman to me.

While none of us have any idea what really happened to Faye Lin, well cared for children do not normally die at the age of 13 for no apparent reason. And AD supposedly claimed that Faye Lin had been ill for 3 weeks. She got herself to a doctor just fine when she had symptoms, why not Faye Lin? It appears as though none of the children have ever been to a doctor in Belize. Not sure if they ever went to one in Hawaii either. I believe they also did not go to school there. It appears they were isolated for most of their lives. These are not the actions of a concerned and loving parent whose primary concern is her children.

So whatever happened to Faye Lin, IMO at the very least, both AD and DD should be charged with neglect and cruelty. I don't think we're ever going to find out the truth about what injuries she actually sustained, or at least be fully comfortable with the coroner's report that is being presented in court, even if the prosecution claims that her injuries, according to the report, "read like a horror script". The main injuries which resulted from severe chest compression could very well have been a poor attempt at CPR either by the parents or the police. And if we can't trust the coroner's report, those injuries may have been sustained after Faye Lin was already deceased. I'd love to see an actual copy of that report as well as the original police report. I must say it appears that anyone who seems to have lived, lives in, knows someone who lives or has lived in or has visited the country themselves seem to have very little confidence in any of the government services or the educational level of anyone employed in them. I suppose we should consider that warning when discussing these cases.

Since Faye Lin is American, has anyone read that the FBI, who seem to be a fixture in the country due to the drug running into the US, have helped out with the investigation or forensics in this case like they did in the Francesca M and Drew D murder case?

MOO

GREAT POST! This sums it up very well. IMO "Anke" is the epitome of evil. There is no other way to put it...............
 
  • #271
Hawaii public records website, both Anke Cannon and David Doehm filed for divorce in April 2011. Still havent found any current info on David Timothy Cannon. (Fyi, on a positive note: My daughter's abuse happened 18 yrs ago, but she is doing wonderfully now)
 
  • #272
I just realized I met this woman in her store, Rubi Moon! I was in San Pedro last year.
 
  • #273
Hawaii public records website, both Anke Cannon and David Doehm filed for divorce in April 2011. Still havent found any current info on David Timothy Cannon. (Fyi, on a positive note: My daughter's abuse happened 18 yrs ago, but she is doing wonderfully now)

Typo? I think you mean Anke Cannon and David Cannon filed for divorce in 2011? Just making sure I didn't miss something. :D Thanks for checking on that.

I'm so glad to hear your daughter is doing great. That's a happy ending for sure. She's very fortunate she had your support and strength. :heartbeat:
 
  • #274
I just realized I met this woman in her store, Rubi Moon! I was in San Pedro last year.

Small world! Any observations or impressions? I expect she was charming. Any children visible? Husband there? Which outfit did you buy? :D Inquiring minds and all that!
 
  • #275
Typo? I think you mean Anke Cannon and David Cannon filed for divorce in 2011? Just making sure I didn't miss something. :D Thanks for checking on that.

I'm so glad to hear your daughter is doing great. That's a happy ending for sure. She's very fortunate she had your support and strength. :heartbeat:

Actually, according to the public records, David Doehm filed for divorce from his wife on Mar 31, 2011 and Anke Cannon filed for divorce from DC on April 4, 2011. By Sept 8th, 2011, Cara Barber was filing a restraining order against DD and Anke was already using the last name of Doehm according to court records. DD's divorce was final Aug 12, 2011 and AC's was final on Aug 3, 2011. I don't believe they officially married until sometime in 2012? Someone posted the wedding photos early on.

As a side note it appears that DC and AC had an insurance claim against a company called Colceramica that wasn't filed by State Farm until July 2013. Looks like neither were available and the case was dismissed so I guess they had both moved from Hawaii and they received no payment for that claim.

http://www.courts.state.hi.us/legal_references/records/hoohiki_disclaimer
 
  • #276
Actually, according to the public records, David Doehm filed for divorce from his wife on Mar 31, 2011 and Anke Cannon filed for divorce from DC on April 4, 2011. By Sept 8th, 2011, Cara Barber was filing a restraining order against DD and Anke was already using the last name of Doehm according to court records. DD's divorce was final Aug 12, 2011 and AC's was final on Aug 3, 2011. I don't believe they officially married until sometime in 2012? Someone posted the wedding photos early on.

As a side note it appears that DC and AC had an insurance claim against a company called Colceramica that wasn't filed by State Farm until July 2013. Looks like neither were available and the case was dismissed so I guess they had both moved from Hawaii and they received no payment for that claim.

http://www.courts.state.hi.us/legal_references/records/hoohiki_disclaimer

Thanks for clearing up my confusion. I read it to mean they divorced each other, and thought the two David's were being switched, when it really meant that they each filed for divorce from their respective spouses. :doh: It makes perfect sense now. I guess it's bedtime.
 
  • #277
Cara Hooks Barber (neighbor in HI) posted an interesting update/comment on FB. She stated she had talked to David Cannon and he was only able to see the girls whenever Anke allowed it (she took them to Belize without his permission-see comments on the post) . He was trying to remain in good terms so he could see his girls. And it was DC that pushed for the autopsy.
 
  • #278
Cara Hooks Barber (neighbor in HI) posted an interesting update/comment on FB. She stated she had talked to David Cannon and he was only able to see the girls whenever Anke allowed it (she took them to Belize without his permission-see comments on the post) . He was trying to remain in good terms so he could see his girls. And it was DC that pushed for the autopsy.
Thank-you for this.

I didn't know David Cannon was scheduled to pick up the girls July 3rd, the date of Faye's death.

Did we know this detail?

"there was a swelling to the right side of the head which appeared to be a cut wound."

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.san...igating-death-13-yearold-faye-lin-cannon/amp/
 
  • #279
Regarding the crowd yelling at and following Anke when she left her home after being released.

I was struck by her complete lack of emotion.

If I were innocent of any wrong doing and was being wrongly accused of murdering my precious daughter, I would absolutely have responded and cracked to those people.

Her stone cold reaction is a pretty good indication to me of what is going on in her soul.

It's my opinion that we are dealing with the ultimate evil here. It breaks my heart to think of the girls and what they have been through. To think there are other monsters manipulating and abusing every day, an unspeakable number of innocent souls who will be scarred forever, and even suffer in death like Faye Lin.

WG
 
  • #280
Regarding the crowd yelling at and following Anke when she left her home after being released.

I was struck by her complete lack of emotion.

If I were innocent of any wrong doing and was being wrongly accused of murdering my precious daughter, I would absolutely have responded and cracked to those people.

Her stone cold reaction is a pretty good indication to me of what is going on in her soul.

It's my opinion that we are dealing with the ultimate evil here. It breaks my heart to think of the girls and what they have been through. To think there are other monsters manipulating and abusing every day, an unspeakable number of innocent souls who will be scarred forever, and even suffer in death like Faye Lin.

WG

100%agree. Losing your child (let alone under suspicion for murder), you would be an emotional wreck. Swollen eyes, breaking out in tears all the time etc. If someone accused you if something like that, for me it would be impossible not to fall apart, react, speak out, scream, rage, if nothing else honor Faye Lin by talking about the hole left in your heart! I guess everyone reacts differently, but some emotion would be normal?
 

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