GUILTY Belize - Superintendent Henry Jemmott, shot/body in sea, San Pedro Town, 28 May 2021 *arrest*

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Soclialite Jasmine Hartin's wealthy ex Andrew Ashcroft accuses her of being a drunk and drug addict | Daily Mail Online

The socialite accused of 'accidentally' shooting dead a top Belizean police officer faces a bitter custody battle over her two young children after her wealthy ex branded her a drunk and a drug addict in scathing court papers, DailyMail.com can reveal.

Andrew Ashcroft, the son of influential British billionaire Lord Michael Ashcroft, claims that Jasmine Hartin is unfit to care for twins Charlie and Ellie, four, because of her 'immoral habits' and her involvement in the accidental shooting death of Superintendent Henry Jemmott.

'The mother of the children hardly spends any time with the children. She is frequently more than not leaving the children in the care of others,' Ashcroft, 43, claims in a court summons obtained exclusively by DailyMail.com.

'Her main occupation is attending and socializing and she is addicted to non-prescribed and illegal drugs and is a habitual drunkard.

'The mother of the children is also presently charged with serious offences; causing death of a police officer by negligence, as well as assault of a person, while out on bail.'
 
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Jul 9, 2021

So let me get this straight, not only did a gun she was holding accidentally discharge and kill a man, but a year earlier, she accidentally discharged another gun (that could have killed someone)? This woman clearly needs to stay far away from guns. I'm beginning to wonder if she actually is a dangerous person.
 
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So let me get this straight, not only did a gun she was holding accidentally discharge and kill a man, but a year earlier, she accidentally discharged another gun (that could have killed someone)? This woman clearly needs to stay far away from guns. I'm beginning to wonder if she actually is a dangerous person.
Everyone should stay away from guns. But, seriously, a drunk and high policeman put his weapon (to so speak) into the hands of a drunk and high woman? If she was too drunk or high to consent, which she probably was, then she's committed no offence at all. And, just for fun, have you ever used a semi-automatic weapon like a Glock? Jemmot had the rounds by his left side and she was sitting on his right; he'd got her to load roads into the magazine and, because there was a round in the chamber, he obviously knew the weapon was cocked (the working parts are to the rear and the sound of the cocking action is unmistakable) whether or not he cocked it himself. Any short barrelled weapon in the hands of a novice is incredibly dangerous and it isn't the fault of the novice. Apparently, the same thing happened a year or two ago in Belize. The whole force sounds like a farce. I'm sorry to say that the image of Jemmott and his sister, both senior officers and both enormously overweight yet still young, will live on as a meme for a long time. Police chases on foot are presumably not a thing there.
 
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<modsnip> On her husband being shot in the head by a daughter in law of a billionaire, while both were high and drunk, Mrs Jemmott says:

"it's all a big surprise".

<modsnip> One of Jemmott's friends asks the timeless and apposite question:

“Why on earth would a beautiful blonde married to a millionaire have a sexual relationship with an obese policeman?".

Then he gives more evidence of Belizian understatement (or deliberate parody?);

“When he (Jemmott) walked on the streets he commanded respect from the most feared men in this country. Now we have a Caucasian woman who allegedly shot him in the head. It’s all a big mess and a puzzle.”

A surprise and a puzzle indeed.

Widow of cop 'shot by Ashcroft's daughter-in-law' says he never mentioned her
 
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One might almost wonder if both the accused and the victim were set up by a third party... complete speculation, imo.
https://texasnewstoday.com/sharp-sh...d-taking-a-perfect-shot-at-watermelon/343099/
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''Newly-released video footage shows cop killer socialite Jasmine Hartin blasting a watermelon to pieces with a perfectly-aimed shot – and hanging from the ceiling of a bar.

The clipS, shared with 7 News Belize on Wednesday, showed 32 year-old Hartin – accused of the manslaughter of police Superintendent Henry Jemmott – taking aim with a 12-gauge shotgun at a watermelon impaled on stakes on a paradise beach.

She easily strikes the foodstuff with the weapon, spraying the fruits’ bright red flesh through the air.''

''Other photos showed her during separate visits to shooting ranges, with 7 News saying the images gave the impression that Hartin is a ‘masterful’ markswoman.''

''7 News speculated that the damaging images had been shared to try and prevent Hartin, who is from Canada, from regaining custody of her children – a twin boy and girl aged four.''

''She said although she has had a ‘complicated’ seven-year relationship with Ashcroft – the son of Lord Ashcroft – with many ‘ups and downs’, she has been ‘shocked’ about the Ashcroft family’s treatment of her since her arrest.

She added: ‘Even with all of that though, I can’t believe how I’ve been treated.’ ''
 
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One might almost wonder if both the accused and the victim were set up by a third party... complete speculation, imo.
Sharp shooter: 'Cop killer' socialite Jasmine Hartin is filmed taking a perfect shot at watermelon - Texas News Today
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''Newly-released video footage shows cop killer socialite Jasmine Hartin blasting a watermelon to pieces with a perfectly-aimed shot – and hanging from the ceiling of a bar.

The clipS, shared with 7 News Belize on Wednesday, showed 32 year-old Hartin – accused of the manslaughter of police Superintendent Henry Jemmott – taking aim with a 12-gauge shotgun at a watermelon impaled on stakes on a paradise beach.

She easily strikes the foodstuff with the weapon, spraying the fruits’ bright red flesh through the air.''

''Other photos showed her during separate visits to shooting ranges, with 7 News saying the images gave the impression that Hartin is a ‘masterful’ markswoman.''

''7 News speculated that the damaging images had been shared to try and prevent Hartin, who is from Canada, from regaining custody of her children – a twin boy and girl aged four.''

''She said although she has had a ‘complicated’ seven-year relationship with Ashcroft – the son of Lord Ashcroft – with many ‘ups and downs’, she has been ‘shocked’ about the Ashcroft family’s treatment of her since her arrest.

She added: ‘Even with all of that though, I can’t believe how I’ve been treated.’ ''
I'm not quite ready to buy into them both being setup by a 3rd party. ...but I am probably in the minority of people here that actually believes what she's said about the night of the shooting. I don't at all doubt that - if she was surprised at the sound of a gunshot - that she thought it came from somewhere else. ...if neither of them knew the gun had a round in the chamber, and no one purposely pulled the trigger, yeah - it might take a minute to figure out just what happened.
I can also understand though why her family may have had concerns about her behavior if she has been "living it up" in the "lowly" local social world as has been reported by local news. ...but honestly, it kind of annoys me that the family has waited until something like this happened before they decided to take advantage of it and try to distance themselves from her. If what the Ashcroft family is trying to state about her now, they shouldn't need to rely on (as yet) unproven info about this incident.
 
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I'm not quite ready to buy into them both being setup by a 3rd party. ...but I am probably in the minority of people here that actually believes what she's said about the night of the shooting. I don't at all doubt that - if she was surprised at the sound of a gunshot - that she thought it came from somewhere else. ...if neither of them knew the gun had a round in the chamber, and no one purposely pulled the trigger, yeah - it might take a minute to figure out just what happened.
I can also understand though why her family may have had concerns about her behavior if she has been "living it up" in the "lowly" local social world as has been reported by local news. ...but honestly, it kind of annoys me that the family has waited until something like this happened before they decided to take advantage of it and try to distance themselves from her. If what the Ashcroft family is trying to state about her now, they shouldn't need to rely on (as yet) unproven info about this incident.
Yeah. Mind you, it's virtually impossible not to know there's a round in the chamber. A cocked semi-automatic handgun looks like this while an uncocked one looks like this. Cocking the weapon takes a determined, two-handed action. He was teaching her how to load the weapon and had the rounds laid out by his side. If he was drunk and high, which he seems to have been, I suppose he may somehow have forgotten that he or she had cocked the weapon while the magazine was attached. But that' not an accident - it's criminal negligence on his part. But it's all down to him, not her. He's the cop of 20 years handing his gun to a drunk bystander. The media loves the story of the pretty girl; 'Drunk Belizian cop is criminally negligent for first time since last year' wouldn't have made it outside of Belize. More, though, the cops have found coke at the scene, obv. So they are faced with the possibility/probability that a very drunk cop was taking (or even supplying) cocaine while encouraging a drunk person to play with his loaded and cocked weapon. And they're still saying he was the victim and what a great cop he was?
The truth appears to be that Jasmine Hartin is the only victim here and he's the only person culpable. In the UK, there's no way she would have been charged on the basis of what's publicly known.
 
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Yeah. Mind you, it's virtually impossible not to know there's a round in the chamber. A cocked semi-automatic handgun looks like this while an uncocked one looks like this. Cocking the weapon takes a determined, two-handed action. He was teaching her how to load the weapon and had the rounds laid out by his side. If he was drunk and high, which he seems to have been, I suppose he may somehow have forgotten that he or she had cocked the weapon while the magazine was attached. But that' not an accident - it's criminal negligence on his part. But it's all down to him, not her. He's the cop of 20 years handing his gun to a drunk bystander. The media loves the story of the pretty girl; 'Drunk Belizian cop is criminally negligent for first time since last year' wouldn't have made it outside of Belize. More, though, the cops have found coke at the scene, obv. So they are faced with the possibility/probability that a very drunk cop was taking (or even supplying) cocaine while encouraging a drunk person to play with his loaded and cocked weapon. And they're still saying he was the victim and what a great cop he was?
The truth appears to be that Jasmine Hartin is the only victim here and he's the only person culpable. In the UK, there's no way she would have been charged on the basis of what's publicly known.
I don't understand how you can say that it's "virtually impossible not to know if there is a round in the chamber" simply by noting whether or not the slide is closed. I have owned many guns throughout my life. None of them have prevented me from closing the slide without a round being in the chamber. "Cocking' a weapon is different than closing the slide/chamber. And my S&W9 evem allows me to "🤬🤬🤬🤬" it with the slide closed and no round in the chamber. So I'm not quite sure I understand the point I think you're trying to make there. ...but yes, beyond that, I have struggled to fully understand how the story if "practicing loading" their weapon really unfolded as well. Maybe it's more just what you might say is a "gut feeling" - but that's just where I'm at with this case. I honestly don't feel like she had any hidden agenda that led her to purposely try to kill this man. This is completely MY OPINION ONLY but, I think she's likely overwhelmed, confused, (likely) in shock, ...but telling the truth as best as she can comprehend it herself.
 
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I don't understand how you can say that it's "virtually impossible not to know if there is a round in the chamber" simply by noting whether or not the slide is closed. I have owned many guns throughout my life. None of them have prevented me from closing the slide without a round being in the chamber. "Cocking' a weapon is different than closing the slide/chamber. And my S&W9 evem allows me to "🤬🤬🤬🤬" it with the slide closed and no round in the chamber. So I'm not quite sure I understand the point I think you're trying to make there. ...but yes, beyond that, I have struggled to fully understand how the story if "practicing loading" their weapon really unfolded as well. Maybe it's more just what you might say is a "gut feeling" - but that's just where I'm at with this case. I honestly don't feel like she had any hidden agenda that led her to purposely try to kill this man. This is completely MY OPINION ONLY but, I think she's likely overwhelmed, confused, (likely) in shock, ...but telling the truth as best as she can comprehend it herself.
Fair enough. He could have slid it forward with a round in the chamber. But I read somewhere that the weapon didn't have a safety catch, for some reason, so I presume he normally went around without a round in there.... That being the case, it really had to be cocked while he was there, whether he did it or she did. In the end, though, the whole thing's criminally incompetent on his part. No?
 
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If she already knew how to load and shoot a gun, why did she need him to teach her how to. Am I missing something basic here?
 
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Lengthy article. rbbm.
Lord Ashcroft's daughter-in-law hits back at Tory peer's family amid 'rift' - Texas News Today
''During her jaw-dropping interview — which inevitably will have infuriated the Ashcroft family, who have decades-old ties to the former British colony — Miss Hartin accused Andrew, 42, of exploiting her incarceration and emotional state to persuade her to give up her stake in their business.

She claimed he had sent a letter to her via a friend on the night of May 31 — three days after her arrest — and provided a copy to 7 News that was shown on air.

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Miss Hartin (right) accused Andrew, 42, (left) of exploiting her incarceration and emotional state to persuade her to give up her stake in their business

‘I was in the San Pedro police station after a magistrate had denied me bail,’ she explained.

‘I was clearly upset and stressed out, and Andrew had sent a letter with a mutual friend to meet me in the males’ bathroom at the front of the police station to sign a one-paragraph statement that says: “I, Jasmine Hartin, sign all shares in Kidd Estates Ltd, which is 10 per cent, to Andrew Ashcroft for the sum of $1 a share.” ’ She said she had signed the statement, but has not received any compensation.


Miss Hartin claimed she was told that if she didn’t sign, hotel giant Marriott would rescind its franchise agreement to let her and Andrew run their luxury boutique hotel, the Alaia.


This, she said, would mean ‘everything we’d worked for was going to be taken away’.

She went on: ‘All I thought was: “We built this for our kids, we’ve worked so hard to get this, so I’ll sign it over but I’m sure he’ll make sure I get it back.” But it wasn’t right to sign it at that time, under those pressures.’

A source who knows the couple told the Mail that Andrew and Jasmine split up some time ago — in part because of his refusal to marry her (although, under Belize common law, they are considered married) — but had stayed together for appearances’ sake.''

''She revealed to 7 News that she’d had previous custody battles with Andrew, one in 2018. ‘It was a very, very bad time in our relationship.’

She took the children to Canada to visit family and stayed for two-and-a-half months, although their father ‘wasn’t denied visitation’ and came to see them.

She said she returned to Belize because she felt they ‘owed it to the children to make it work’.

Mr Ashcroft’s alleged refusal to let his former partner see their children is just one puzzling aspect of this saga.

For as Miss Hartin’s new Belizean lawyer, Richard ‘Dickie’ Bradley, stressed this week, under local law a single mother has sole custody of her children, with the father having visitation rights and a responsibility to pay maintenance.''
 
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Agree 100%. It’s the story changing that makes me suspicious. She’s on at least her 3rd version of what happened. First it was someone else fired a shot, then she was giving him a massage, then he was teaching her how to use a gun. It’s difficult because she is the only witness and also the perpetrator. Jemmott isn’t alive to tell his side of the story. Seems to me like she is trying out the story she thinks will be most believable when she faces a judge or jury. And she has to be careful because Jemmott was popular on the island and the locals are very upset about his death. I think that’s why in her latest version she describes him as her “protector” and it was all a tragic accident.
I do find it strange that Lord Ashcroft’s son isn’t helping her out at all. Even though they’ve been estranged for awhile, she IS the mother of their children. You’d think they’d want to get her out on bail, have the trial and put this behind them. Weird dynamic here.
She had blood on her clothing . A Forensic blood splatter analyst will be able to determine wether it is simply blood transfer from her holding Jermott or wether it will be as a result of the trajectory of the bullet and will be able to place her in terms of where she was when Jermott was shot. I would also like to know and have forensically examined any gun shot residue from JH’s and/or Jermotts hands. I would also have the cocaine bag forensically examined for DNA and fingerprints, as I would the gun. The whole situation is perturbing for me and I cannot help but have an ominous feeling about it all including as to wether this was a set up. Every aspect both for and against MUST be looked at without any corruption involved so as to determine how Mr Jermott died. I’m sure his family would like the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth!
 
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rbbm.
July 10 2021
Ashcroft son says ex is a drunk and drug addict | News | The Times
''Lord Ashcroft’s son Andrew has accused his former partner Jasmine Hartin of being “a habitual drunkard” who is “addicted to non-prescribed and illegal drugs” in an application for legal custody of their two children.

The application for custody, filed with a court in Belize, alleges that “the mother of the children hardly spends any time with the children” and that “her main occupation is... socialising”.

The allegations were contained in a summons that was served on Hartin yesterday, a day after she filed a police report accusing him of leaving the country with their four-year-old twins.

She denied the claims. “Yes I enjoy a glass of wine at the weekend,” she said. “It’s very ironic, he has been struggling with alcoholism for years.” She said''

Soclialite Jasmine Hartin's wealthy ex Andrew Ashcroft accuses her of being a drunk and drug addict - T-Gate
''Hartin, 32, rejected the allegations and said Ashcroft has blocked her from seeing her children without any court order or lawful authorization since June 11


Hartin provided a copy of a recent medical report to DailyMail.com to prove that she was not on drugs.


The examination, carried on July 5, states that she tested negative for a variety of illegal substances, including cocaine, ecstasy, meth and marijuana.


‘As soon as I take one step to get my kids back he attacks me and he’s coming out with false allegations,’ she said, explaining that the notoriety around Jemmott’s death was making it hard for her to find a family lawyer willing to represent her.


‘I’m playing an unfair game. They are able to do whatever they want while I’m tied up in red tape,’ she added.''
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rbbm.
July 10 2021
Ashcroft son says ex is a drunk and drug addict | News | The Times
''Lord Ashcroft’s son Andrew has accused his former partner Jasmine Hartin of being “a habitual drunkard” who is “addicted to non-prescribed and illegal drugs” in an application for legal custody of their two children.

The application for custody, filed with a court in Belize, alleges that “the mother of the children hardly spends any time with the children” and that “her main occupation is... socialising”.

The allegations were contained in a summons that was served on Hartin yesterday, a day after she filed a police report accusing him of leaving the country with their four-year-old twins.

She denied the claims. “Yes I enjoy a glass of wine at the weekend,” she said. “It’s very ironic, he has been struggling with alcoholism for years.” She said''

Soclialite Jasmine Hartin's wealthy ex Andrew Ashcroft accuses her of being a drunk and drug addict - T-Gate
''Hartin, 32, rejected the allegations and said Ashcroft has blocked her from seeing her children without any court order or lawful authorization since June 11


Hartin provided a copy of a recent medical report to DailyMail.com to prove that she was not on drugs.


The examination, carried on July 5, states that she tested negative for a variety of illegal substances, including cocaine, ecstasy, meth and marijuana.


‘As soon as I take one step to get my kids back he attacks me and he’s coming out with false allegations,’ she said, explaining that the notoriety around Jemmott’s death was making it hard for her to find a family lawyer willing to represent her.


‘I’m playing an unfair game. They are able to do whatever they want while I’m tied up in red tape,’ she added.''
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rbbm.
July 10 2021
Ashcroft son says ex is a drunk and drug addict | News | The Times
''Lord Ashcroft’s son Andrew has accused his former partner Jasmine Hartin of being “a habitual drunkard” who is “addicted to non-prescribed and illegal drugs” in an application for legal custody of their two children.

The application for custody, filed with a court in Belize, alleges that “the mother of the children hardly spends any time with the children” and that “her main occupation is... socialising”.

The allegations were contained in a summons that was served on Hartin yesterday, a day after she filed a police report accusing him of leaving the country with their four-year-old twins.

She denied the claims. “Yes I enjoy a glass of wine at the weekend,” she said. “It’s very ironic, he has been struggling with alcoholism for years.” She said''

Soclialite Jasmine Hartin's wealthy ex Andrew Ashcroft accuses her of being a drunk and drug addict - T-Gate
''Hartin, 32, rejected the allegations and said Ashcroft has blocked her from seeing her children without any court order or lawful authorization since June 11


Hartin provided a copy of a recent medical report to DailyMail.com to prove that she was not on drugs.


The examination, carried on July 5, states that she tested negative for a variety of illegal substances, including cocaine, ecstasy, meth and marijuana.


‘As soon as I take one step to get my kids back he attacks me and he’s coming out with false allegations,’ she said, explaining that the notoriety around Jemmott’s death was making it hard for her to find a family lawyer willing to represent her.


‘I’m playing an unfair game. They are able to do whatever they want while I’m tied up in red tape,’ she added.''
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He's lying but it's hard to stick up for her since she went ahead and had the children without marriage and lived with him without being married to him. He calls her immoral. Pot calling the kettle black!
 
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Hard to stick up for her since she had children without marriage and lived with him without being married to him? Really? That is a common thing these days and according to the law in Belize they were married, plus there is commonlaw marriage in some countries as well. I wouldn't judge her on that, but on other facets of the case.
 
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Hard to stick up for her since she had children without marriage and lived with him without being married to him? Really? That is a common thing these days and according to the law in Belize they were married, plus there is commonlaw marriage in some countries as well. I wouldn't judge her on that, but on other facets of the case.
Common doesn't mean it's moral.
 
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He's lying but it's hard to stick up for her since she went ahead and had the children without marriage and lived with him without being married to him. He calls her immoral. Pot calling the kettle black!
Uh? Your view is that it's immoral to have children unless you're married? And you're aware that he was involved too, right? :-)
 
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Uh? Your view is that it's immoral to have children unless you're married? And you're aware that he was involved too, right? :)

Agreed, this is not something to judge this case on anyways in regards to her (and him) having children out of wedlock and whether that is moral or not according to various viewpoints! (they were married as far as Belize law and in some countries commonlaw is legally recognized, not that any of that is relevant)
 

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