Billie texts Clint about trading custody for house

[epiphany]

That is a really good question. I thought about that a while back, and never came up with an answer.

What year did they buy the house?

November 2001

 

[dodie20]

Yes, but that was like them giving her a second chance. So this would be like strike 3. And she publicly admitted some things that could lose her the job. She printed up hundreds of pages of tru crime stories for her boyfriend on work computers using their paper and ink, I presume. That is expensive and many places consider that employee theft.

yes, and the hospital knowing she used them in the 'hobby' that's playing a huge role in Haleigh's disappearance, is not going to sit well with them. Also, that nitro stick thing she admitted to taking home, might have played a part, IMO, in her son being removed from her care. MOO.

 

[Melanie]

No her offer says she pays no child support.

IMHO Clint is not obligated to pay CS on DD since he is not his biological son and has not adopted DD (though some judges may feel different, if he supported DD from an early age). Hailey is missing, so he wouldn't have to pay support. IMHO, he wouldn't pay support on DD now because his is in CPS custody.

So exactly what does BJD want???

:waitasec:

 

[claudicici]

I' m just sick to my stomach about Billie's "offer".I can't believe I used to defend her.

 

[epiphany]

IMHO Clint is not obligated to pay CS on DD since he is not his biological son and has not adopted DD (though some judges may feel different, if he supported DD from an early age). Hailey is missing, so he wouldn't have to pay support. IMHO, he wouldn't pay support on DD now because his is in CPS custody.

So exactly what does BJD want???

:waitasec:

Just the house to use as collateral when and if she needs to bond out.

 

[swedie]

IMHO Clint is not obligated to pay CS on DD since he is not his biological son and has not adopted DD (though some judges may feel different, if he supported DD from an early age). Hailey is missing, so he wouldn't have to pay support. IMHO, he wouldn't pay support on DD now because his is in CPS custody.

So exactly what does BJD want???

:waitasec:

I think she was hoping to catch CD in a weak moment, immediate response sent by text so she could use it against him that he said yes she could have it.

Let's see what does BD want :waitasec:
She wants everyone to believe:
-SA is awesome
-SA had nothing to do with HD disappearing
-she had nothing to do with HD disappearing
-she's an awesome mother
-she doesn't do illegal drugs
-the is not hers (even though her and SA shared loving pics together)
-she deserves CD to "give" her the house for nothing in return
-she wants HD back in her house, on her couch
-she doesn't lie
-she is a victim
-LE lies about her
-she did not tattoo DD
-she does not steal
-her and SA's hobbie is the norm

Just to name a few. I'm sure we could think of at least a million more things BD wants.

 

[Caligram]

I don't care what BD wants, I just hope she gets what she deserves.

 

[Melanie]

Just the house to use as collateral when and if she needs to bond out.

So wouldn't it be much more simpiler to say "please give me the house"? Vs. saying "in exchange for the children"?

Just seems so odd....

Mel

 

[mck16]

So wouldn't it be much more simpiler to say "please give me the house"? Vs. saying "in exchange for the children"?

Just seems so odd....

Mel

When was that text sent? Does anyone know the date? tia

 

[Jo in Calif]

IMHO Clint is not obligated to pay CS on DD since he is not his biological son and has not adopted DD (though some judges may feel different, if he supported DD from an early age). Hailey is missing, so he wouldn't have to pay support. IMHO, he wouldn't pay support on DD now because his is in CPS custody.

So exactly what does BJD want???

:waitasec:

Her offer to Clint is that he can have full custody of the children, in exchange for, her, having full ownership of the house.
By giving Clint custody of the children, she does not want to pay him child support.
I don't see how this can happen without a divorce, as this sounds like a separation agreement, and Texas doesn't do those.
Texas does do a separation of property though.
This is bartering with her children, if this is what she is doing, she is sounding like a poor excuse for a mother, to me.

 

[WideOpen]

Her offer to Clint is that he can have full custody of the children, in exchange for, her, having full ownership of the house.
By giving Clint custody of the children, she does not want to pay him child support.
I don't see how this can happen without a divorce, as this sounds like a separation agreement, and Texas doesn't do those.
Texas does do a separation of property though.
This is bartering with her children, if this is what she is doing, she is sounding like a poor excuse for a mother, to me.

Seems like Billie is pulling at Clints heartstrings in a desperate attempt to get what she needs at this time to feel secure, in control and on top of a divorce. Where will she go if Clint takes the house? Where will she spend time with SA? I think she knows she has already lost the kids, and I believe the judge will order Clint back into the home. The attorney has probably informed BD that if she goes before a judge she will be expected to pay child support and Clint will be awarded the home. If she can manipulate Clint into a deal out of court its a win for her.

In their past separation or divorce conversations before Hailey went missing BD probably did have pull and control over clint regarding the kids and house. Clint has a jail record, uses drugs, has no stable place to live and no stable income. A judge would have ordered stiff child support payments and essentially BD would have been in control of the house and kids. She seemed to be the better parent, had a good job and clean record. Boy, she had it together didnt she?

With all the new information BD would never get custody and clint is in a position to go to court and have the roles reversed here. BD is facing loosing the lifestyle she is accustomed to.

Does Clint have an attorney and has he been planning on filing for divorce recently? Is Clints family encouraging this and this is another reason for RC to come out and speak.
JMO hope my thoughts make sense.

 

[Tugela]

Custody

If Hailey is found alive, Clint has made it clear he will not let her live with Billie. If he already has custody and then she is found... that would make Hailey's transition that much easier. No battle for her. Just going home.

If he has custody of the child, he would also get most of that child's belongings... would he not? The custodial parent generally does.

If he gave Billie the house, I would first want him to go in and get at least some of Hailey's things if not all of them. That is really bothering me... just like when Terri was still living in the house with all of Kyron's stuff. I don't want all of Hailey's stuff to disappear.


House

Clint has entertained the idea that Shawn hurt Hailey. If that happened, he knows it likely happened in that house. He knows deep down it is entirely possible that his little girl was murdered in that house.

Would he really be able to live there?


Body

If Hailey is found dead, we must remember that there are two parents/families that could easily fight for custody of her body. I have seen this in a couple of other cases.

If Clint has custody of Hailey before she is found, it would cause that process to go much more smoothly. He would automatically be in charge of the body, the funeral, etc.

I definitely wouldn't want Billie in charge of that.


Conclusion

Clint would already have custody of Hailey if she is found alive, or control of the body if she is not.

Clint would have custody of most of Hailey's belongings to ensure they don't get destroyed.

Clint would not be living in the house his little girl Hailey was likely murdered in.


Billie would be getting a crappy house, one that his awesomeness cannot visit for a year.


I'm seeing this as a win win for Clint.

I do think he should also divorce her. Unless there is a way to ensure he isn't responsible for her bills. But I would prefer he divorce her regardless.

That all depends on where HD is if she is alive.

I think a stranger being involved is unlikely in this case, so that means whatever happened involved friends and/or family. If she is alive then her dissappearance is very likely directly related to the custody dispute in some way, and whoever is responsible will probably find themselves in jail.

If she is alive and is not found by LE (they don't appear to be looking, so that isn't likely) then IMO she will show up one day and refuse to say where she has been. Maybe when she is 18.

 

[Knox]

ITA WideOpen and was just going to say the same thing. It's just more of her skilled manipulation, using DD & HD to get what she wants (the house).

Connie said Clint was trying to get BD to let Hailey live with him and she refused. But now, when she needs something, she will give him what he wants. It's sickening and I really believe it's true and not a rumor.

According to tax records, the Dunns still collectively own their home at 1804 Chestnut, which they purchased in November 2001. Clinton Dunn owned 1143 Chestnut until 2008.
http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/08/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/

Does anyone know what happened to 1143 Chestnut? Did he sell it and pay off 1804 Chestnut? Sorry if this was already discussed and I missed it.

 

[Melanie]

When was that text sent? Does anyone know the date? tia

original link:

http://am.kbst.com/page.php?34

KBST NEWS LEARNED LATE MONDAY AFTERNOON BILLIE DUNN SENT CLINT DUNN A TEXT MESSAGE OFFERING HIM FULL CUSTODY OF HAILEY AND DAVID DUNN IF HE AGREED TO SIGN OVER HIS HALF OF THE HOUSE LOACTED AT 1800 CHESTNUT STREET.


Note: I believe the media meant to say "in the 1800 block of Chestnut Street - since the actual address is 1804).

Mel

 

[swedie]

Sorry if I missed it, but is the house solely Clints? If so, he should just evict her, fix the dump up and sell it. If it's possible to sell. Someone might even buy it for the land it's on and rebuild. Even if it is half BD's he should do the same. Tell her to find somewhere else to live. She doesn't know a good thing when it slaps her in the face. She's lucky she has a place to live. She may not need the house soon kwim. If she ends up behind bars, it will become CD anyhow. Hang tight Clint.

 

[epiphany]

That all depends on where HD is if she is alive.

I think a stranger being involved is unlikely in this case, so that means whatever happened involved friends and/or family. If she is alive then her dissappearance is very likely directly related to the custody dispute in some way, and whoever is responsible will probably find themselves in jail.

If she is alive and is not found by LE (they don't appear to be looking, so that isn't likely) then IMO she will show up one day and refuse to say where she has been. Maybe when she is 18.

Respectfully, BBM

Someone ought to tell John Young, Billie's attorney, that LE is not searching for Hailey since in a recent interview he stated that police were doing a great job concerning H's disappearance!

It seems that C. Barrett Thomas, Shawns's attorney, disagrees with Young's sentiment and wrote that LE needed to focus on finding H, rather than on his client.

Thousands of hours have been devoted to search for Hailey by LE, other agencies and private groups.

 

[Soulmagent]

I think the issue of who's name the house is in would be wonderful to put in the myth busters thread.

Then we would have 2 myths busted LOL.

 

[epiphany]

Sorry if I missed it, but is the house solely Clints? If so, he should just evict her, fix the dump up and sell it. If it's possible to sell. Someone might even buy it for the land it's on and rebuild. Even if it is half BD's he should do the same. Tell her to find somewhere else to live. She doesn't know a good thing when it slaps her in the face. She's lucky she has a place to live. She may not need the house soon kwim. If she ends up behind bars, it will become CD anyhow. Hang tight Clint.

And even if it is community property, file those divorce papers and for sole custody of H, Clint! What are you waiting for?

 

[SmoothOperator]

true, Billie "claims" that Clint Never worked and that she, alone was the sole provider{and why Do I now have Michael Bolton song in my head?..lol}anyway yes, these were Billie's claims.. But now we have a credible person telling us very different..Richy says that Clint has been successful for years as a Landscaper, even owning all of his own equipment{which that alone makes a world of difference vs. working for someone who owns their own equipment}.. He says that he is very efficient in handling the landscaping, as well as the personal customer service to each and every customer..making sure they are extremely satisfied with the job done and the time that it was finished in..

As I know first hand from a family friend who owns their own landscaping business{and we all know someone who "owns their own landscaping business"..some are wastes of money that never add up to anything while others can become extremely successful in biz..especially when you get into commercial landscaping}..but the family friend owns his own equipment and now is at a stage where he only handles customer service and has paid workers under him that actually do the landscaping{and even those guys are making a decent living}.. But they all will tell you it is definitely seasonal.. Some plan much better than others and therefor spread the earning out over the entire year where as some do not and therefor they are antsy to get back to work this time of year so they can get the income rolling back in..

So, I definitely believe what Richy is saying about Clint's work.. And as he said its getting to be close to that time when Clint would be starting back with his Landscaping work.. So, as usual what Billie says and claims to be true we once again find out is not the truth{SURPRIZE! SURPRIZE!}..

And then about the house being paid off.. A house that's worth 30,000 and they bought it in 2001 that's 10 yrs to pay it off at $3,000 per year which breaks down to a payment of a measly $250 a month and the house would be paid off..So IMO there is no issue of how was this house paid off? I would seriously be questioning HOW COULD THIS HOUSE NOT BE PAID OFF?

And speaking of that didn't someone mention that there was indeed a balance on the house? I certainly would like to hear how thats explained??

TIA to anyone who remembers off hand if/why there was a balance to be paid on the 1804 Chestnut residence..

 

[SmoothOperator]

And even if it is community property, file those divorce papers and for sole custody of H, Clint! What are you waiting for?

Heck yea! I agree 100%! Get the divorce rolling and even if community property sell the dump and give Billie her measly money and get her out of the way.. Do not make any side deals with her Clint.. That is where I can guarantee you that things will quickly go down hill.. Any deal coming from Billie is ONLY IN BILLIE'S BEST INTEREST!!!.. Screw the kids and screw Clint..as long as Princess Billie is taken care of..That is all that matters to her, period..end of subject..jmo, tho!