Bosma Murder Trial 03.09.16 - Day 22

[inbetweendoors]

Adam Carter ‏@AdamCarterCBC 2m2 minutes ago
Now we're seeing footage from 10:51 p.m. on May 9 at 112 Westridge Drive, which isn't far from Millard's mother's home. #TimBosma #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 2m2 minutes ago Vaughan, Ontario
Now seeing still image from later the same night, May 9, 2013, a pick up truck towing a fifth wheel trailer passing 112 Westridge Dr #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 2m2 minutes ago
Next video is from #Millard mother's neighbourhood in Klienburg #TimBosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
Now seeing clip (taken from a home security camera at 112 Westbridge Dr in Kleinburg). #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 2m2 minutes ago Vaughan, Ontario
That's in Kleinburg, near Millard's mother's home. #Bosma

Adam Carter ‏@AdamCarterCBC 2m2 minutes ago
A truck pulling a trailer is seen. #TimBosma #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 2m2 minutes ago
Next video is from private residence on Westridge Drive in Kleinburg at 10:51 pm. Near home of Millard's mother.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
At 10:51pm, a pickup truck towing a fifth-wheel trailer is seen passing the Westbridge Dr. home. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 2m2 minutes ago
Klienburg video shows truck pulling fifth wheel trailer. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 2m2 minutes ago
I could see pickup, lights on, with 5th wheel trailer passing by.

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 1m1 minute ago Vaughan, Ontario
Remember this? A trailer parked in Millard's mother's driveway. Inside was Bosma's truck #Bosma

 

[Kamille]

I have to take a break for a bit but I'll continue updating the timeline when I get back later tonight. It's mostly up-to-date for May 6 and 7. I intend to add May 8-11 as well.

Timeline: https://goo.gl/URpYBy

This is awesome billandrew. Thank you so much for doing this.

 

[inbetweendoors]

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 2m2 minutes ago
Now seeing video of pickup with 5th wheel trailer proceeding past house in Vaughn close to home of Madeline Burns, Dellen Millard's mother

Adam Carter ‏@AdamCarterCBC 2m2 minutes ago
Now seeing footage of the pickup truck towing the trailer passing 140 Westridge Drive #TimBosma #Bosma

Adam Carter ‏@AdamCarterCBC 2m2 minutes ago
That's near Tinsmith Court in Kleinburg, where Millard's mother lived. #TImBosma #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
A minute later, the truck/trailer is seen passing another home down the street at 140 Westbridge Dr that also has a security camera. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 1m1 minute ago
Another Kleinburg home surveillance system picked up truck & trailer passing by #TImBosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 2m2 minutes ago
Now video from different address on Westridge. #Bosma 10:52 pm May 9. I can see what looks like truck and trailer pass.

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 1m1 minute ago
Just saw separate video from different address in Vaughan showing same truck with trailer

Adam Carter ‏@AdamCarterCBC 54s55 seconds ago
Plaxton's presentation was just made an exhibit. Should get all these videos today. #TimBosma #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 45s46 seconds ago Vaughan, Ontario
Crown has finished its questioning of forensic video analyst. Court breaking #Bosma

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 1m1 minute ago
Cross examination starts at 215pm after jury's lunch break

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 3m3 minutes ago Vaughan, Ontario
The trailer was so tightly wedged up to Millard's mother's home, it shattered a couple of house lights #Bosma

 

[meterclicks]

Plaxton's presentation was just made an exhibit. Should get all these videos today.
by Adam Carter 12:51 PM

Now taking the lunch break. Back at 2:15 p.m.
by Adam Carter 12:52 PM

 

[ArianeEmory]

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 3m3 minutes ago Vaughan, Ontario
The trailer was so tightly wedged up to Millard's mother's home, it shattered a couple of house lights #Bosma

Yeah, that doesn't look suspicious.

 

[sab_bri]

So what were they doing in the hangar from 9:09pm until 11:40pm. And those times are odd because it appears MS was at the farm by 11:30. If DM left the hangar at 11:40, he wouldn't be expected to get to the farm until 12:00am. So did DM drop MS off at the farm before getting to the hangar at 9:09pm? What was he doing there for 3 hours until DM showed up with the incinerator if that's the case? Or did MS have transportation that day and meet DM at the farm?

:waitasec:

MOO

at some point they had to burn the seats

 

[Bsafe]

I wonder why there is no video of the truck in the hangar at this point? They had footage of the 2 men and dog before, why wasn't the truck filmed? Deleted? Can surveillance video be deleted? Sorry if this is obvious.

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 1m1 minute ago Vaughan, Ontario
Crown: A known vehicle of Dellen Millard was a Yukon with no hubcaps? Expert: No hubcaps #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 1m1 minute ago
Plaxton says SUV is consistent with a Yukon without hubcaps, just like Millard's vehicle.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 58s59 seconds ago
7:02am: SUV leaves the hangar. By now it's bright out, can see it. Plaxton says consistent w dark blue Yukon or Tahoe. No hub caps. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 1m1 minute ago
In daylight you can see the SUV looks like a Yukon with no hubcaps. Like #Millard SUV. #Bosma

Adam Carter ‏@AdamCarterCBC 1m1 minute ago
The trailer can't be seen as the SUV pulls away. "The assumption is it was pulled into the hangar," he says. #TimBosma #Bosma

 

[Sleepy Villager]

Wow. I need a lunch break too, and it's only 10 am where I am! :thud:
What a tremendous day of evidence. A lucky day to be home from work with my sick son.

 

[sab_bri]

I'm waiting for MM's testimony to hear about what she knew and what role she played in the crime or after the fact. The difference between her and CN from what I understand so far is that she apparently cooperated with LE (for whatever reason) from the beginning unlike CN, who did not, IMO.

All MOO.

MOO - perhaps because CN's boyfriend (Millard) was the one who is mostly responsible for this? This is one of the reasons I think MM was more cooperating, this may be if MS was just doing what Dellen told him to?

 

[DeepWoodsOff]

I wonder why there is no video of the truck in the hangar at this point? They had footage of the 2 men and dog before, why wasn't the truck filmed? Deleted? Can surveillance video be deleted? Sorry if this is obvious.

I thought they said the camera in the hangar was pointed only at one corner? MOO

Decided not to be lazy and go back and look...

Plaxton says the camera inside the hangar was originally set up to pan and zoom around inside the hangar. But on May 7, only one static view was available.
by Adam Carter 11:42 AM

 

[Kamille]

So on the 9th it appears that DM was back in Oakville around noon picking up MS. They were both in Oakville until around 2pm when they proceeded to the hangar getting there around 3pm. This was the day that AJ was alone in the hangar with the truck for a while and took the pictures. Also called Crimestoppers. Must also be the day he claimed to have seen MS there with DM.

It appears that MS stayed at the hangar while DM went to get the red truck from wherever it was. We are assuming it was at Maplegate? Perhaps it was at the farm? We have one text to MS's phone at 6:21pm that appears that he was in the vicinity of the farm. Was it just the red truck that showed up at the hangar? No other vehicle with it? What time did DM leave the hangar to go pick up the red truck? At what point did he decide that the truck had to be put in the trailer and moved I wonder? It appears he showed up that day around 3pm at the hangar in the Yukon but at some point decided he needed the Ram. So it wasn't planned from the morning to move that trailer IMO.

MOO

 

[voominvava]

So what were they doing in the hangar from 9:09pm until 11:40pm. And those times are odd because it appears MS was at the farm by 11:30. If DM left the hangar at 11:40, he wouldn't be expected to get to the farm until 12:00am. So did DM drop MS off at the farm before getting to the hangar at 9:09pm? What was he doing there for 3 hours until DM showed up with the incinerator if that's the case? Or did MS have transportation that day and meet DM at the farm?

:waitasec:

MOO

I'm thinking MS and MM had the yukon, and DM had the red truck. One went to the farm, the other took TB's truck in the trailer to MB's house.

I'm also thinking there HAS to be some blood evidence in the Yukon. Even just from the bottom of their shoes? I wonder if that will be introduced?

 

[Kamille]

at some point they had to burn the seats

That's another odd one. The farm neighbour claimed he saw the smoke around 6am on the 7th or 8th. Doesn't appear that either of them were at the farm in the morning on either of these days? :waitasec:

MOO

 

[Bsafe]

The problem with this scenario (that TB was transported in the eliminator from the farm to the hangar) is that it doesn't explain all the blood evidence in the bed of the truck. I still think they had him wrapped in a tarp in the truck bed until they got to the hangar.

I was thinking the same thing. My best guess is that was done at the farm before the incinerator was towed to the hangar.

 

[brightii]

MOO - perhaps because CN's boyfriend (Millard) was the one who is mostly responsible for this? This is one of the reasons I think MM was more cooperating, this may be if MS was just doing what Dellen told him to?

In the big picture IMO, it won't matter much if MS was allegedly following the leader DM. MS had a choice to go along with the plan and/or instructions even if solely concocted by DM, IMO. The fact that MS apparently did actively participate in the crime is what will matter most to the jury, IMO.

In my eyes, unless there is some truly shocking evidence to come from either defense side, I think both DM and MS are so far proved by the Crown to be equally guilty as charged, IMO.

All MOO.

 

[Kamille]

I'm thinking MS and MM had the yukon, and DM had the red truck. One went to the farm, the other took TB's truck in the trailer to MB's house.

I'm also thinking there HAS to be some blood evidence in the Yukon. Even just from the bottom of their shoes? I wonder if that will be introduced?

There is no evidence that MM was ever with MS during any of this movement at the farm and hangar. She was constantly texting MS though, which helped a lot to trace his movements I'm sure.

MOO

 

[DeepWoodsOff]

The problem with this scenario (that TB was transported in the eliminator from the farm to the hangar) is that it doesn't explain all the blood evidence in the bed of the truck. I still think they had him wrapped in a tarp in the truck bed until they got to the hangar.

Hmmm....good point. Unless they put TB in the back of the pick-up right after they shot him so he would have been in there for the trip to the farm and then transferred to the incinerator at the farm. Based on what they were able to discern in the video it seems there would have been more activity around the incinerator at the hangar if they were putting the body in there. MOO

 

[CJPRINCESS]

this is what I think too..she was with them..I am floored she is not charged with the same charges as CN..IMO she has done exactly the same thing trying to cover things up.

Well this isn't shocking to me at all! I said she was more involved then we were told. Ya, I got the DNA between her and CN mixed up but I still stated she was more involved.

Difference is....she did come forward. CN did not! I'm sure there was a deal to be made for her testimony against the accused (along with SS) From what was said prior to test drives and what MS said after Tim's death to where the gun was "buried in a forest" I think she played a big piece of the puzzle for LE. She saved her own ! I think LE would over look accessory after the fact to get slam dunk murder convictions?
Again, only my own opinion

 

[Kamille]

Hmmm....good point. Unless they put TB in the back of the pick-up right after they shot him so he would have been in there for the trip to the farm and then transferred to the incinerator at the farm. Based on what they were able to discern in the video it seems there would have been more activity around the incinerator at the hangar if they were putting the body in there. MOO

Yes, the more likely scenario if we are to believe that TB's body was put in the truck bed at any point would be from the time he was shot until they got to the farm. They spent over an hour at the farm picking up the incinerator. I shudder to think of what they were doing in all that time.

MOO

 

[DeepWoodsOff]

Well this isn't shocking to me at all! I said she was more involved then we were told. Ya, I got the DNA between her and CN mixed up but I still stated she was more involved.

Difference is....she did come forward. CN did not! I'm sure there was a deal to be made for her testimony against the accused (along with SS) From what was said prior to test drives and what MS said after Tim's death to where the gun was "buried in a forest" I think she played a big piece of the puzzle for LE. She saved her own ! I think LE would over look accessory after the fact to get slam dunk murder convictions?
Again, only my own opinion

Agreed. I think she offered a LOT of information to LE. Remember what MS yelled to her when they were arrested? "Don't tell them anything, babe!" He knew she knew a LOT of information. MOO