Bosma Murder Trial 03.09.16 - Day 22

[paris_paris]

I wonder where the dog came from? was he already at the hangar? was he in the Yukon? They never went back to either MS or DM's home before going to hangar..so he must have been with them and in the yukon?

May have been at the hangar already, or possibly at the farm.

 

[swedie]

Busted! Deliberately angled camera away week before. They knew they were going to be bringing a stolen truck back to the hangar. And perhaps the incinerator also. Premeditation. Unfortunately the videos are dark and grainy but I don't see that causing unreasonable doubt in the jurors minds. The video inside the hangar identifies MS and DM (with his man purse) and Pedo, DM's dog.

Everything... all the evidence, timeline, VS, is lining up quite nicely, regardless of the surveillance videos times being out. This is not uncommon for many surveillance systems due to power failures and DLST. Many owners don't think to change the times. They figure as long as the system is recording, that's all that matters and all they care about.

Each day just brings about more evidence to solidify convictions of the two perps, one day closer to justice. MOO.

Such heartbreak for the Bosma family and loved ones as they sit through this living nightmare. Justice is coming.

#Millard hangar security cameras were repositioned Apr 29, 2013... About a week prior. Outside camera was turned to face wall. #Bosma

 

[Sphinx]

Mark appears to be wearing some kind of coverall? does it look like that to anyone else? It is clear to me that these are DM with the Satchel and MS.

Ms was photographed more than once wearing a baggy long grey hoodie, and baggy pants. I think that is what you are seeing. The length of the top looks exactly like his long grey hoodie. IMO

 

[flipflop]

I didn't realize a flame would be visible on the outside of the incinerator. Can anyone explain why that would happen?

This has probably been discusses already, sorry I am just beginning to read up on todays tweets. Ugghh feeling very sad. Would the flame be from opening up the incinerator door?

 

[Sphinx]

Is that the satchel hanging on Millard's left hip?

OOPS DWO Beat me to it.

same shape as one taken out of the washer at DM's place

 

[inbetweendoors]

Adam Carter ‏@AdamCarterCBC 31m31 minutes ago

You can view the #TimBosma security camera presentation inside this story: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamil...ter-bosma-disappearance-expert-says-1.3483358 … Still working on video. #HamOnt #Bosma
You can view Plaxton's report (without video, for now) in this story

 

[Satchie]

Two things of note:

1) The floor is awfully filthy for something that apparently AJ was always cleaning.

2) This is a still from 6am on the 7th (unless this is an "incorrect time stamp" one)

This is the image from 1:33 am - "two men enter the hanger with dog trailing behind them. One of them carries a flashlight." Post #42 earlier in this thread.

 

[Kamille]

I cannot make out if the alleged MS is wearing his hi-top Vans Crooks and Castle sneakers to complete his look.

Not that it matters but those white runners he wears are Nike Air Force 1 shoes.

MOO

 

[earlygirl]

.... I am totally disappointed in the Hangar photo, maybe its the overhead view, I hope so --- I am so sorry to admit, initially, that it's not convinced me . :thinking:

No doubts the guy with the satchel is DM - DM's body stance and head is so like himself - but I took an inwards breath with the first thought when I saw this pic that this chubby, short legged person (with glasses?) and thick hair might not be MS ... --- his presentation of a lean, small man is not so apparent. I could buy wearing oversized coveralls , with crotch down by the knees - might create an illusion..... but still

 

[Kamille]

I wonder where the dog came from? was he already at the hangar? was he in the Yukon? They never went back to either MS or DM's home before going to hangar..so he must have been with them and in the yukon?

As I posted earlier today, DM had not been at the hangar for a couple of days at least so I'm assuming he was in the Yukon? :dunno:

MOO

 

[Kamille]

Early on in the trial, one of the journalists mentioned that there was a specific reason witnesses were not asked to explicitly identify the two. But either the journalist did not say what that reason was, or I don't remember it. But I'm sure it's in the tweets from trial day one or day two.

I believe it is because they cannot positively identify someone whom they do not know. Only someone who knows them personally or an LE officer who has dealt with the case can identify them absolutely.

MOO

 

[Gumshew]

Not that it matters but those white runners he wears are Nike Air Force 1 shoes.

MOO

I did a search and they don't match Nike but match Vans. Can you show your match?

 

[inbetweendoors]

Early on in the trial, one of the journalists mentioned that there was a specific reason witnesses were not asked to explicitly identify the two. But either the journalist did not say what that reason was, or I don't remember it. But I'm sure it's in the tweets from trial day one or day two.

I was certain those tweets came from ABro but I've just gone thru her feed since the start of the trial, plus another 20 mins sifting through WS trial pages and I can't find them. I know they exist. I give up for now. :gaah:

ETA: Kamille recalled the tweets almost perfectly, from what I remember

 

[inbetweendoors]

Here's the actual presentation:

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2754340-Bosma-Security-Camera-Presentation.html#document/p1

 

[Gibson67]

I am curious why they went into the hangar with flashlights and did not turn on the lights at first..but then at 3:45 AM they turn on the full hangar lights..

 

[inbetweendoors]

He just wanted to make sure the surveillance cameras saw he had nothing to hide at all angles

 

[Kamille]

I did a search and they don't match Nike but match Vans. Can you show your match?

http://www.annrbrocklehurst.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Screenshot-2016-03-01-at-5.56.15-PM.png

http://store.nike.com/us/en_us/pd/air-force-1-high-07-shoe/pid-942795/pgid-318227

 

[inbetweendoors]

Hangar illuminated, same angle, no people or pets:

 

[inbetweendoors]

Hangar viewpoints, for reference:

 

[inbetweendoors]

The Bobcat stills are brutal... they're seriously claiming they can make out a cigarette? Need to see that video, lol...