Bosma Murder Trial 03.22.16 - Day 25

[Velma]

Court now resuming, the jury is being recalled.
by Adam Carter 1:33 PM

We're continuing with more continuity evidence from from Zivolak.
by Adam Carter 1:34 PM

Zivolak is giving more evidence about how swabs of blood evidence are sealed, stored and transported to the Centre of Forensic Sciences.
by Adam Carter 1:39 PM

Officially the driest day of transcribing for me so far...

 

[nobodyzgirl]

I find the whole media blackout (on legal arguments) frustrating. For those who have the ability to attend they get access to the info, while those of us on the other side of the country we do not. We must patiently wait for what scraps are allowed to be reported on.

I have been aware of this case since day one from seeing national news and was appalled at the brazen crime over a lousy truck. My thoughts certainly go out to the Bosma family, I cannot imagine what they have been through. I would, if I lived in the area be at the court but cannot. It just seems like a strange compromise that attendees can hear the objections but then cannot report. It almost should be behind close doors if they truly want blackout, especially this day in age. Nobody of course would want that. The only way we can we keep our courts feet to the fire is by allowing media to keep it in check. (me venting my frustration)

This is standard practice in Canada. Once the jury starts to deliberate the media will then post a story along the lines of "what the jury didn't hear" and that's when all the information will come out regarding the legal arguments that are happening. It is done this way so that the defendants have a fair trial, and the jury is not tainted.

 

[Velma]

He's now going through March 20, 2014, when investigators collected blood and DNA samples from Millard and Smich through a judicial order.
by Adam Carter 1:53 PM

 

[redheart]

Interesting.

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 7m7 minutes ago
Exhibit 642-3. A swab from a garden hose seized from Riverside Drive in Toronto. #Bosma

 

[Abitcountry]

I just heard Neil Pasricha ( author of The Happiness Equation) say the following:

"You are the average of the 5 people that you hang around with the most."

An interesting formula to apply to some of the key characters in this case....sounds similar to 'You are like the company you keep'.

 

[earlygirl]

May DM live on to eat those very words every moment of the rest of his life. Saying he was unable to get the family out of his mind was a clever manipulation so SS would believe he purchased a stolen truck, not stole it himself. I am so sad for the Bosma Family and friends who had to hear that in court yesterday. Like AJ did, I would need to vomit.

I can't fully fault SS for buying into that... Is only in hindsight that he sees how he was being manipulated when he suggests in court that DM was playing Dumb.... Something SS seems to be very good at himself. He did it back then --- and all through his testimony yesterday. Everything he said was self serving ...

 

[Velma]

Still running through continuity evidence -- Zivolak says there are about ten or so exhibits left to talk about.
by Adam Carter 2:05 PM

 

[Arnie M]

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Off topic note ..... seeing as it is a quiet day in court

I wonder if the recent MILLARD vs HER MAJESTY case is revenue Canada questioning things like SS being paid by Millardair to work on DM's PERSONAL cars etc

There is lots of flexibility between business and personal benefits when you own a corporation but if nearly everything SS did was stuff for DM and nothing to do with aviation there could be a chunk of personal taxes for DM to pay.

Baja race jeeps (for example) could never be a cost of sales for MAir unless it was as a major advertising sponsor , which clearly it was not.

 

[Abitcountry]

Count with me.......

:lamb: 1 Mississippi......2 Mississippi........3 Mississippi

 

[SnooperDuper]

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Off topic note ..... seeing as it is a quiet day in court

I wonder if the recent MILLARD vs HER MAJESTY case is revenue Canada questioning things like SS being paid by Millardair to work on DM's PERSONAL cars etc

There is lots of flexibility between business and personal benefits when you own a corporation but if nearly everything SS did was stuff for DM and nothing to do with aviation there could be a chunk of personal taxes for DM to pay.

Baja race jeeps (for example) could never be a cost of sales for MAir unless it was as a major advertising sponsor , which clearly it was not.

CRA has its own investigators - the docket does say it's a criminal case. My hunch is that it is DM being compelled to testify in the CN case.

Here is that link for people that missed it: http://www.scc-csc.ca/case-dossier/info/dock-regi-eng.aspx?cas=36766

Can't help noticing he's paying yet another lawyer http://www.scc-csc.ca/case-dossier/info/counsel-procureurs-eng.aspx?cas=36766

 

[SnooperDuper]

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 17m17 minutes ago
Crown Moodie tells witness there are about 10 exhibits left and then we're almost done. Several jurors smile. We've been at this a while.

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 3m3 minutes ago
Crown is done with Zivolak "for now." He will return to the witness stand next week. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 2m2 minutes ago
Justice Goodman explaining that sometimes he has to interrupt a witness's evidence.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
Zivolak is done on the stand "for now." He'll return on another date. Scheduling, judge explains. Assures jury won't happen often. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 47s47 seconds ago
Next up is Lisa Whidden. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 46s46 seconds ago
Detective is done for now and next #Bosma witness is Lisa Whidden. Walking in now she smiled at #Millard

 

[SnooperDuper]

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 33s34 seconds ago
Whidden has never given a statement to police. Her phone was seized in a warrant during the investigation. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 36s37 seconds ago
She says she doesn't know who Crown Leitch is, she's never given a statement to police. Here by subpoena.

 

[loveisthemovement]

Is this Lisa Whidden what you would call a hostile witness?

 

[SnooperDuper]

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 18s18 seconds ago
Whidden did not speak to police or prosecutors. She is here under subpoena. Her phone was seized by police #TimBosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 17s17 seconds ago
"We've never met," crown (Leitch) says. "No I don't know who you are," she says. He introduces himself, says they've spoken on phone #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 20s21 seconds ago
Her cell phone was seized by police. She has copy of her text messages but left them outside courtroom. Judge orders someone to get them.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 10s10 seconds ago
She was given copy of text messages between her and Millard that were seized from her phone (and his). Has them before her now. #Bosma

 

[SnooperDuper]

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 5s6 seconds ago
They met when she was cold-calling real estate ads in early 2012. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 17s18 seconds ago
Series of messages between her and Dellen Millard. Judge tells her to keep her voice up. She met Millard cold calling real estate ads.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 25s26 seconds ago
They had a professional relationship. She sold a house for him. A home in Oakville. In spring 2012. #Bosma

 

[earlygirl]

Interesting.

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 7m7 minutes ago
Exhibit 642-3. A swab from a garden hose seized from Riverside Drive in Toronto. #Bosma

yes indeed - very interesting, the texts about the power washer not being available in the hangar suggests this evidence is very valuable. Now I kinda understand why the SS cross examine is going to be delayed ... DM uncle's testifying that he NEVER EVER spoke to DM about cremation business - before SS saying it was the motivation for the purchase of the eliminator was brilliant thinking. Crown is addressing the credibility of this witness before he gets on the stand.

I am surprised that SS was not scheduled as witness for the defense...

 

[SnooperDuper]

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 18s18 seconds ago
That was early 2012. Sold house for him in spring 2012. She says they had an intimate relationship starting April or May 2012 until arrest.

 

[JuneBug67]

Ooops! Should help along CN's testimony.

 

[Velma]

Zivolak is being excused, expected to return next week. Nothing about cross examination yet.
by Adam Carter 2:17 PM

"On occasion we interrupt a witness' evidence ... it's not my habit to do that, but for scheduling purposes we need to do so," Justice Goodman says.
by Adam Carter 2:19 PM

The next witness is Lisa Whidden.
by Adam Carter 2:19 PM

She's here under subpoena -- she has never given a statement to police or spoken to the Crown. Her phone was seized and searched.
by Adam Carter 2:21 PM

A series of texts between her and Millard were seized from her phone and Millard's phone.
by Adam Carter 2:23 PM

She met him cold calling real estate ads in early 2012. She hold a home in Oakville for him in the spring of 2012. ""Did you have an intimate relationship?" Crown Tony Leitch says. "We did, yes." She responds. She says off and on that relationship continued until his arrest.
by Adam Carter 2:25 PM

She's on a no contact order with him now.
by Adam Carter 2:25 PM

 

[SnooperDuper]

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
Then it became intimate, she agrees. Around April 2012 it began, she says. Continued off and on until his arrest May 10, 2013. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 44s45 seconds ago
They had "hundreds of calls," primarily texts in that time, Crown says. She agrees. And emails, she adds. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 39s40 seconds ago
"We seemed to be good friends." Hundreds of texts, some phone calls, some emails. She's now on no contact order with Millard.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 44s44 seconds ago
They did not continue their relationship after Millard's arrest. She was on a no-contact order, she says. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 21s21 seconds ago
Crown is going through phone numbers with her. She has identified her own cell number.