Bosma Murder Trial 03.22.16 - Day 25

[ArianeEmory]

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 44s45 seconds ago
On April 25, they are texting about a condo deal in the works. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 45s45 seconds ago
At the time she was a real estate sales agent...Millard was trying g to sell the condo before he even technically owned it. (Confusing.)

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 36s36 seconds ago
The condo was not technically owned by Millard. Still owned by builder until "final closing." So Millard couldn't accept offers until then.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 27s28 seconds ago
It was on MLS, but couldn't accept offers until that final closing. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 39s40 seconds ago
Dell texts her "a lot of accounting/banking **** has hit the proverbial fan this month." This was April 26, 2013.

Not a real estate agent or anything, but sounds like he had sunk funds into this new-construction condo (is this the 'distillery' thing?) and was chomping at the bit to unload it, either at a profit or just to get his initial investment back.

 

[MsSherlock]

Court seeing more texts between the two about issues when they could accept offers on a condo he was selling.
by Adam Carter 2:41 PM

Whidden is asked to read out a text. "It's not very relevant is it?" she responds. "That's up for the jury and I to decide," Justice Goodman says.
by Adam Carter 2:44 PM

Just a little bit of attitude? Where did DM find these people from?

 

[RandomName479]

Court seeing more texts between the two about issues when they could accept offers on a condo he was selling.
by Adam Carter 2:41 PM

Whidden is asked to read out a text. "It's not very relevant is it?" she responds. "That's up for the jury and I to decide," Justice Goodman says.
by Adam Carter 2:44 PM

LOL. This one should be good....

 

[ArianeEmory]

Whidden is asked to read out a text. "It's not very relevant is it?" she responds. "That's up for the jury and I to decide," Justice Goodman says.
by Adam Carter 2:44 PM

My, aren't we salty.

 

[Velma]

The first text starts with "I used to love the snooze button on my alarm now it just reminds me I have to pee." Then the texts go back to talking about the condo. Millard texts "Builders have me until May 9 as hard deadline to close or else." In court, Whidden says "It could eventually become a bank sale and go back to the builder."
by Adam Carter 2:46 PM

 

[SnooperDuper]

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
Millard texts back the next day that a bunch of "financing/banking **** has hit the proverbial fan this month." #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 2m2 minutes ago
May 3, 8:40 am "This is slightly embarrassing she tells court," when Crown asks her to read it aloud. "And I don't think it's relevant."

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 45s46 seconds ago
Judge tells her that's not for her to decide. Text exchange begins with her talking about her alarm clock and her having to "pee."

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 51s51 seconds ago
But then gets into real estate woes for Millard.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 46s47 seconds ago
Millard was looking to sell the condo but didn't own it yet. He was negotiating rates with lenders to make the close. #Bosma

 

[SnooperDuper]

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 1m1 minute ago
She talks about Millard having a high rate loan.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 45s45 seconds ago
She asked if he was getting the "nice rates that are floating around, 2. something?" He says no. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 13s13 seconds ago
She doesn't know what his rate was, or why. Says likely because he owned multiple properties--high risk. But doesn't know. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 50s51 seconds ago
"I don't think I spoke to him about what his actual rate was."

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 33s33 seconds ago
That exchange was on May 3, 2013. #Bosma

 

[Velma]

Now a text from May 5, from Millard to her: "Working on trading one of my gas trucks for a diesel."
by Adam Carter 2:49 PM

Leitch says this is around the time of a test drive that Igor Tumanenko took.
by Adam Carter 2:50 PM

Whidden says she didn't speak in person with him about him wanting to get a diesel truck.
by Adam Carter 2:51 PM

Now from May 6, 2013. She texts, "How is your day going?" He responds: "Not a huge task, going very well, paid for the condo finally."
by Adam Carter 2:52 PM

 

[SnooperDuper]

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
On May 5, 2013 she asks how his weekend is going. He responds at 6:56 pm: "working on trading one of my gas trucks for a diesel." #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 1m1 minute ago
May 5, 2013 Dell: "working on trading one of my gas trucks for a diesel." Then: "put about 5 full days into it, over the past 12 months."

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
She asks how that's progressing. He says (at 7:34pm): "put about 5 full days into it over the past 12 months." #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 1m1 minute ago
She says she never discussed the truck with him in a verbal conversation after that.

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 56s56 seconds ago
On May 5, 2013, #Millard responds to question about his weekend. "Working on trading one of my gas trucks for a diesel...." 1/2

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 51s51 seconds ago
She says all phone calls were her cell to his cell.

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 16s16 seconds ago
May 6, 2013. Dell texts her at 5:17 pm "Paid for the condo finally."

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 15s16 seconds ago
On May 6, she asks at 5:03pm: "how is your day going?"
DM at 5:17pm: "not a huge task. Going very well, paid for the condo finally." #Bosma

 

[Kamille]

All that talk of how he had almost $700,000 cash, no problem, to buy a condo. Um...no he didn't. Wonder where he eventually got it from? Because that deal did close. I guess we might find out?

MOO

 

[lclabtech]

Can someone catch me up/remind me? Earlier someone posted we now know of a couple girls other than Whidden and Nougda, who were the others he was involved with?

 

[Velma]

Whidden says she doesn't know how much of Millard's own money he had to spend to close the condo vs the bank's money. "Another agent was tasked with selling it after Dell was arrested," she says.
by Adam Carter 2:53 PM

Now taking the afternoon recess. Back in 20 mins.
by Adam Carter 2:55 PM

 

[SnooperDuper]

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 3m3 minutes ago
"... Put about 5 full days into it, over the past 12 months." #Millard to Whidden, shortly after test drive w Igor Tumanenko May 5, 2013

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 3m3 minutes ago
She tells him there were a few showings at the condo that weekend. (They could show the place, just couldn't sign anything until he closed).

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 3m3 minutes ago
Another agent tasked with selling condo after Dell was arrested.

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 38s39 seconds ago
Break now.

 

[Prairie_dawg]

Can someone catch me up/remind me? Earlier someone posted we now know of a couple girls other than Whidden and Nougda, who were the others he was involved with?

LB and the ex-fiance

that we KNOW of...

 

[SnooperDuper]

Can someone catch me up/remind me? Earlier someone posted we now know of a couple girls other than Whidden and Nougda, who were the others he was involved with?

LB and the ex, JS, who was on a date with DM and came back to his house with him when WM died.

 

[lclabtech]

LB and the ex, JS, who was on a date with DM and came back to his house with him when WM died.

RIGHT! Sorry. Brain fart there. Thanks guys.

 

[MsSherlock]

Not a real estate agent or anything, but sounds like he had sunk funds into this new-construction condo (is this the 'distillery' thing?) and was chomping at the bit to unload it, either at a profit or just to get his initial investment back.

Bingo! DM was trying to "sell paper". Goes something like this. He buys a property, in this case it was a condo in the pre-construction or construction phase. He puts down 10 or 20% of the purchase price- whatever the Builder required. Kind of looks like DM was going to have some problems coming up with the rest of the cash to close the deal and he got LW to list it for sale. She may have been getting into trouble because she was selling a unit for someone who didn't own it yet. Once he had a cash offer on the place, DM could take the offer to the bank and get bridge financing on it. Many pre-construction sales like this cannot be assigned to another Buyer- meaning the Builder would want DM to close it. Looks like the builder was pushing him and looks like he came up with the money in the nick of time! MOO

 

[Kamille]

Not a real estate agent or anything, but sounds like he had sunk funds into this new-construction condo (is this the 'distillery' thing?) and was chomping at the bit to unload it, either at a profit or just to get his initial investment back.

He had owned another Distillery District condo at one time and hung on to that for a while. I think he even tried to rent it out or did rent it out. I'm sure he hung onto it just long enough to make a good profit. Which was probably the original intent with this one. Looks like he needed/wanted to get out of that deal before it even closed this time. That would cut into his profit substantially I would think?

MOO

 

[jash]

LB and the ex-fiance

that we KNOW of...

Wonder who the two were on the bloody sailboat in 2012.

Also wondering if "Wishbone" will turn out to be another female companion.

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[SnooperDuper]

Bingo! DM was trying to "sell paper". Goes something like this. He buys a property, in this case it was a condo in the pre-construction or construction phase. He puts down 10 or 20% of the purchase price- whatever the Builder required. Kind of looks like DM was going to have some problems coming up with the rest of the cash to close the deal and he got LW to list it for sale. She may have been getting into trouble because she was selling a unit for someone who didn't own it yet. Once he had a cash offer on the place, DM could take the offer to the bank and get bridge financing on it. Many pre-construction sales like this cannot be assigned to another Buyer- meaning the Builder would want DM to close it. Looks like the builder was pushing him and looks like he came up with the money in the nick of time! MOO

Thank you for your wisdom. The financials are fascinating.