Bosma Murder Trial 03.22.16 - Day 25

[lclabtech]

The "set up" text was crafted purposefully IMO, to get her on his side when he knew he was going down. Looks like it worked if she never gave a statement to police.

I also think she didn't actually think he meant sick when he said "hot".

 

[MsSherlock]

Is the Oakville property LW sold for him the house he briefly lived in with JS? Wasn't that in JS's name?

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JS's name and different agent but IIRC, it was the same R/E Co. Maybe when that listing expired LW was trying to pick it up? MOO

 

[SnooperDuper]

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 2m2 minutes ago
Now texts from May 10, 2013, day #Millard arrested. Tells Whidden day is stress-filled. "looks bad. I think someone I work with set me up."

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
She says they never had a conversation after this. She did text him after he was arrested. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 2m2 minutes ago
She says Millard said his home had been broken into and things stolen. She sent him a text message after he was arrested. Cops at her house.

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 2m2 minutes ago
Whidden says "this has been a string of oddly bad luck.." #Millard #TimBosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
When police called to tell her they were at her house to speak to her, she texted Millard to let him know. May 11, 2013. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 2m2 minutes ago
That was the afternoon of May 11. Millard arrested night before. She also called her friend who is a lawyer.

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 1m1 minute ago
Leitch asks if she ever talked to Millard about Tim Bosma. She says, "Not at all."

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 57s57 seconds ago
Leitch asks if they ever had a discussion about #TimBosma. "No not at all," she says. That text was last they spoke. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 26s26 seconds ago
Sanchuk now for Millard. Police put her in handcuffs and took her phone. "They made me bleed, actually."

 

[Kamille]

A message from Millard to Whidden on May 9: "Let him know 'I'm too hot, stay away.'" She responds: "****, Okay. How hot are you, are you going to be okay?" He responds: "Looks bad, I think someone I work with has set me up, I'm not sure why."
by Adam Carter 3:28 PM

Wow wow wow...I assume this text was sent to the wrong person? Or is there something previous to this?

He was working on his defense as of May 9th it appears.

MOO

ETA: I see it was for her. What had they discussed over the phone previous to this? Her vagueness and loyalty to DM is as apparent as SS's IMO.

 

[Velma]

Millard's lawyer Nadir Sachak now cross examining. They're talking about when Whidden is questioned.
by Adam Carter 3:33 PM

"They put me in handcuffs and took my belongings." she says. "What crime did you commit?" Sachak says. "None that I knew of ... They took my purse and my phone. I did ask them to please get a warrant and I'd give it to them."
by Adam Carter 3:34 PM

She says the handcuffs "made her bleed."
by Adam Carter 3:34 PM

 

[SnooperDuper]

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 35s36 seconds ago
Nadir Sachak now up for cross-examination. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 21s22 seconds ago
She says intimate relationship with Millard may have happened in June 2012 after she sold his house in Oakville.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 18s19 seconds ago
Asks about circumstances in which police seized her phone. She was handcuffed. She says they made her bleed. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 32s32 seconds ago
"It was taken forcibly without your consent?" Sachak says. "Yes," she says. #Bosma

 

[nitsirk]

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 2m2 minutes ago
Now texts from May 10, 2013, day #Millard arrested. Tells Whidden day is stress-filled. "looks bad. I think someone I work with set me up."

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
She says they never had a conversation after this. She did text him after he was arrested. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 2m2 minutes ago
She says Millard said his home had been broken into and things stolen. She sent him a text message after he was arrested. Cops at her house.

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 2m2 minutes ago
Whidden says "this has been a string of oddly bad luck.." #Millard #TimBosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
When police called to tell her they were at her house to speak to her, she texted Millard to let him know. May 11, 2013. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 2m2 minutes ago
That was the afternoon of May 11. Millard arrested night before. She also called her friend who is a lawyer.

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 1m1 minute ago
Leitch asks if she ever talked to Millard about Tim Bosma. She says, "Not at all."

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 57s57 seconds ago
Leitch asks if they ever had a discussion about #TimBosma. "No not at all," she says. That text was last they spoke. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 26s26 seconds ago
Sanchuk now for Millard. Police put her in handcuffs and took her phone. "They made me bleed, actually."

Poor muffin......handcuffs that made her bleed.

I feel no sympathy for her. Thinking hot meant sick. Smh

Imo.

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[SnooperDuper]

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 24s24 seconds ago
Asks about their intimate relationship. Began in June 2012? That's possible, she says--it was after closing of Oakville house sale. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 22s23 seconds ago
She got a $10,000 "referral fee" for his condo sale in Toronto's Distillery District. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 20s21 seconds ago
Nadir Sachak, #Millard lawyer, now crossing Whidden. She says police handcuffed her & took phone & purse. "They made me bleed, actually."

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 52s53 seconds ago
Now onto the condo. It was in the Distillery District. "It's a very nice neighbourhood and it was a very beautiful condo," she says. #Bosma

 

[lclabtech]

IMO, JMO.

She knows more than what she's saying and she was more emotionally invested in Millard than what she's letting on.

 

[SnooperDuper]

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 39s40 seconds ago
"Even before he'd paid off the lenders you had two individuals interested in buying the condo," Sachak says. She agrees. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 46s47 seconds ago
Intimacy with #Millard began after house in Oakville sold, maybe June 2012.

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 18s19 seconds ago
She calls herself Millard's selling agent. "It was extremely beautiful," she says of the condo.

Ann Brocklehurst ‏@AnnB03 21s21 seconds ago
Tim Bosma was still missing when police seized Lisa Whidden's phone without a warrant

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 14s14 seconds ago
Sachak describes it (using his 8-year-olds terminology) as "swag." She agrees, again, it was a "pleasure to show it." #Bosma

 

[Satchie]

Not intending to be crass or disrespectful whatsoever - DM seems to have had quite varied taste in women, physically. Having now seen photos of LW, LB, CN and JS so far, he doesn't appear to have a 'type', although I can't speak to personality type at all. MOO

I suspect he might have been using her - hoping she would bend some of her real estate ethics for his convenience. She was obviously pretty keen on him, texting him twice that fatal night. A normal real estate agent wouldn't be so available to him, or so understanding with all those excuses he was making about his financial troubles. An arm's length real estate agent might see him as a problem client.

 

[loveisthemovement]

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 39s40 seconds ago
"Even before he'd paid off the lenders you had two individuals interested in buying the condo," Sachak says. She agrees. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 46s47 seconds ago
Intimacy with #Millard began after house in Oakville sold, maybe June 2012.

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 18s19 seconds ago
She calls herself Millard's selling agent. "It was extremely beautiful," she says of the condo.

Ann Brocklehurst ‏@AnnB03 21s21 seconds ago
Tim Bosma was still missing when police seized Lisa Whidden's phone without a warrant

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 14s14 seconds ago
Sachak describes it (using his 8-year-olds terminology) as "swag." She agrees, again, it was a "pleasure to show it." #Bosma

Did she just use the word "pleasure" on purpose? It seems odd.

 

[Velma]

Now talking about Millard's condo in the distillery district, apparently was huge, and very swank. "It was a pleasure to show it," Whidden says.
by Adam Carter 3:38 PM

(Thank you, AC, for your use of 'swank' )

 

[Velma]

"So he can only sell it if he pays off the builder ... this is one of those condos where you purchase it from design and they build it up?" Sachak says. Whidden says this is correct.
by Adam Carter 3:41 PM

"So he meets whatever deadline the builders have imposed three days prior?" Sachak says. "Yes," she responds.
by Adam Carter 3:42 PM

 

[ADAWG]

Just because he has two buyers lined up means nothing. If Millard can't come up with the funds on closing day he loses it and the builder owns it.


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[Abitcountry]

A message from Millard to Whidden on May 9: "Let him know 'I'm too hot, stay away.'" She responds: "****, Okay. How hot are you, are you going to be okay?" He responds: "Looks bad, I think someone I work with has set me up, I'm not sure why."
by Adam Carter 3:28 PM

Whidden says she thought "hot" meant he was sick.
by Adam Carter 3:28 PM

After the "set me up message," she says she no longer thought he was ill.
by Adam Carter 3:28 PM

"I think from the messages that was the last message I got from him."
by Adam Carter 3:29 PM

Is he already setting up to dish off the blame to MS ???? Interesting....

 

[SnooperDuper]

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 25s25 seconds ago
Did Millard know he had to pay off condo builders before selling? She says they never had that chat.

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 33s34 seconds ago
Condo sold for $700,000. It was a 2 bedroom.

 

[Kamille]

And here goes the carefully set up defense strategy to make LE look bad. Does she realize there was still a missing man at the time?

MOO

 

[Velma]

In the end, Millard's condo sold for around $700K, Whidden says. It was a two-bedroom, around 1,500 square feet.
by Adam Carter 3:44 PM

Sachak is now finishing. Smich's Lawyer Thomas Dungey cross examining.
by Adam Carter 3:45 PM

 

[JPC]

Now talking about Millard's condo in the distillery district, apparently was huge, and very swank. "It was a pleasure to show it," Whidden says.
by Adam Carter 3:38 PM

(Thank you, AC, for your use of 'swank' )

CN/Rubikinks/Sea En has been spending time in The Distillery district over the past year...according to SM. Maybe opening her lost love.