Bosma Murder Trial 03.30.16 - Day 27

[SnooperDuper]

MB's relationship with the money seems generally hinky anyway:

No money was coming into MillardAir. Lisa Williams testified that while Dellen wrote all the cheques, he had no occupation at the hangar; neither did his mother, Madeleine Burns, who was also on the payroll.

http://www.900chml.com/2016/02/24/jury-hears-details-of-smich-arrest-and-millardair-financials/

MB also felt entitled to cash for no good reason. I guess what DM got out of it all was LW2's and MB's undying devotion. Some people love cash above all other things.

 

[SnooperDuper]

This was clarified in the trial, I'm not sure why so many people insist on sticking to the incorrect version before it was corrected. The cheque came from the other agency to her agency, period. It's not an opinion, it's a fact.

If it's a fact, post a link that illustrates it as a fact. MSM says the cheque came in the mail from MB to LW2.

 

[Inspector_North]

Unfortunately the DM/JV relationship was "murky" at best. Money back forth...you owe me, yeah but, you owe me too. Nothing in writing, taxes not paid, remittances to the Government not done, paycheques late, just a really unprofessional beholding and overlording kind of relationship. Yuck!

JV's testimony brought to light the switching of trucks and shed a light, in an upfront personal way, as to how DM conducted business.

Not sure about the hoses yet. That still has to play out.

DM was a micro manager who controlled all day to day operations. And that he also liked to have control of resources even if they were rented or leased out.

Mechanic or Foreman, it was just a title and those other duties were expected and rewarded with kindness.

MOO

 

[SnooperDuper]

SC tweeted there are at least a dozen witnesses to go, in reply to an inquiry.

 

[billandrew]

"The shutting down of the hangar came to you as a surprise?" Sachak asks. Villata says yes.
by Adam Carter 12:12 PM

There are two ways this will be interpreted:

1) The defense will say that it shows DM wasn't planning the crime or else he would have arranged for the hangar to be "available" ahead of the crime.

2) The Crown will argue that going to the hangar was unplanned. There was an issue with getting the Eliminator running at the barn so it had to be taken to the hangar. By the time morning came around, MS needed to get back to Oakville to meet MM, so they did not have time to take the Eliminator back to the barn. Therefore it was moved inside the hangar and nobody was allowed to come to work that day, lest they see or smell the smoldering remains of a human body. :frown:

 

[andreww]

There must be details regarding the hoses that the jury isn't allowed to hear, hence the wonder and confusion.

Like a lot of this case, LE found suspicious things and have no idea where they fit in. They introduced the suspicious behaviour of buying the hoses and running them for 10 hours but didn't, and probably won't expand on it. The idea being that the jury will suspect that Millard had washed something down there and he wanted that area cleaned. What and when, they have no idea, but its suspicious and the jury knows about it.

 

[redwing7225]

"The shutting down of the hangar came to you as a surprise?" Sachak asks. Villata says yes.
by Adam Carter 12:12 PM

There are two ways this will be interpreted:

1) The defense will say that it shows DM wasn't planning the crime or else he would have arranged for the hangar to be "available" ahead of the crime.

2) The Crown will argue that going to the hangar was unplanned. There was an issue with getting the Eliminator running at the barn so it had to be taken to the hangar. By the time morning came around, MS needed to get back to Oakville to meet MM, so they did not have time to take the Eliminator back to the barn. Therefore it was moved inside the hangar and nobody was allowed to come to work that day, lest they see or smell the smoldering remains of a human body. :frown:

Using the Eliminator at the farm would be quite risky imo, just looking at an image of the property from the road. That house to the left appears to be quite close, appearing as though it belongs on the same property. That could've been a high risk area as well (lights flickering from vehicles, commotion, etc) at that time in the evening.

 

[Ontario Mom]

Unfortunately the DM/JV relationship was "murky" at best. Money back forth...you owe me, yeah but, you owe me too. Nothing in writing, taxes not paid, remittances to the Government not done, paycheques late, just a really unprofessional beholding and overlording kind of relationship. Yuck!

JV's testimony brought to light the switching of trucks and shed a light, in an upfront personal way, as to how DM conducted business.

Not sure about the hoses yet. That still has to play out.

DM wanted the ground flooded that day. He told JV to let the water run ALL day. It doesn't take ALL day to see where water is going to pool so I don't believe that excuse at all. I really want to know why he wanted that specific area completely flooded. So far it doesn't line up with ANYTHING else he was doing, or involved in.

I really don't want to have tunnel vision but the truth is, I've done the same thing. Flooded a particular area of my yard the day before I was going to dig to put in a pre-fab pond form. I wanted the dirt easy to dig up, and it worked like a charm. Just like weeding by hand is a thousand times easier after it's rained because the dirt is very pliable instead of packed in.

 

[Juballee]

If it's a fact, post a link that illustrates it as a fact. MSM says the cheque came in the mail from MB to LW2.

Just because it wasn't tweeted doesn't mean it didn't happen, lol.

It's funny to me that when other people who were present during testimony correct questions raised from tweets, they are thanked for clarifying things, but when I do it, I'm considered a liar, lol.

 

[Inspector_North]

Using the Eliminator at the farm would be quite risky imo, just looking at an image of the property from the road. That house to the left appears to be quite close, appearing as though it belongs on the same property. That could've been a high risk area as well (lights flickering from vehicles, commotion, etc) at that time in the evening.

What was the risk? The Eliminator could be used almost anywhere they had access to tow it on the property. Don't forget that they burnt the seats on the property, and they emit a very foul and thick smoke.

 

[Abitcountry]

This was clarified in the trial, I'm not sure why so many people insist on sticking to the incorrect version before it was corrected. The cheque came from the other agency to her agency, period. It's not an opinion, it's a fact.

well, I thought it was clarified too.....and I did not get what you got and it appears I am not the only one

 

[andreww]

DM wanted the ground flooded that day. He told JV to let the water run ALL day. It doesn't take ALL day to see where water is going to pool so I don't believe that excuse at all. I really want to know why he wanted that specific area completely flooded. So far it doesn't line up with ANYTHING else he was doing, or involved in.

I really don't want to have tunnel vision but the truth is, I've done the same thing. Flooded a particular area of my yard the day before I was going to dig to put in a pre-fab pond form. I wanted the dirt easy to dig up, and it worked like a charm. Just like weeding by hand is a thousand times easier after it's rained because the dirt is very pliable instead of packed in.

The obvious innuendo is that Millard cleaned something there and wanted it rinsed thoroughly. But that idea doesn't fit in with their own timeline and cell records does it?

 

[paris_paris]

There must be details regarding the hoses that the jury isn't allowed to hear, hence the wonder and confusion.

There was mention of a blood swab taken from the hose. It was mention along with other swabs taken from other locations. I think they will come back to that, and possibly identify who's blood it was.

 

[ADAWG]

I think Dungey did a good job of taking down Sachak's long cross in a few minutes. He did a good job of showing how much money was owed to V. and how it far exceeded the $9500 owed. As well how the living arrangement along with truck rental for all of DM's personal gain wasn't as sweet of set up as Sachak made it sound.

 

[nitsirk]

Just because it wasn't tweeted doesn't mean it didn't happen, lol.

It's funny to me that when other people who were present during testimony correct questions raised from tweets, they are thanked for clarifying things, but when I do it, I'm considered a liar, lol.

No where did you mention you were present at the trial. Asking for a link to something you present as a fact is common.

All I have seen is what is presented in MSM, MB sent the cheque.

Sent from my LG-D852 using Tapatalk

 

[SnooperDuper]

Adam Carter ‏@AdamCarterCBC 2m2 minutes ago
Correction -- I was spelling it Villata, but it's Villada. Apologies. #TimBosma #Bosma

You'll see even the CBC news articles written by AC use "Villata"...ooops!

 

[andreww]

No where did you mention you were present at the trial. Asking for a link to something you present as a fact is common.

All I have seen is what is presented in MSM, MB sent the cheque.

Sent from my LG-D852 using Tapatalk

Funny how some people think they know everything by reading maybe a hundred tweets a day. There is 5 or six hours of testimony a day, we are all missing most of it.

 

[MsSherlock]

This was clarified in the trial, I'm not sure why so many people insist on sticking to the incorrect version before it was corrected. The cheque came from the other agency to her agency, period. It's not an opinion, it's a fact.

Please link and thank you! I've been trying to confirm your reports because the spread of misinformation is not good. Something like this could be problematic for LW2. Also, you stated in a previous post that LW2 told the court Scotty's whole name and what her relationship was with him. I can't find any reports on that either.

 

[Tealgrove]

There was mention of a blood swab taken from the hose. It was mention along with other swabs taken from other locations. I think they will come back to that, and possibly identify who's blood it was.

I was corrected on this point several threads ago. A swab was taken however, it was never said that it was blood. I think we all assumed it was (and I still do) however, we do not know that as fact.

 

[Bsafe]

"the Gringo way"?????

Isn't that a term supposedly used by Mexicans?? Is Sachak implying that because Villada is Columbian he is therefore "Mexican"??? How is this lowlife allowed to practice in a Canadian court of law? Sorry for the over the top reaction but I feel this is racial profiling to a degree and I'm shocked that the judge didn't reprimand him. And I'm not even addressing the fact that some caucausians may be offended by the term Gringo. I am speaking to the fact that he seems to be profiling South Americans as being all the same!

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 58s58 seconds ago
Javier Villada's testimony continues after the morning break. #TimBosma

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 1m1 minute ago
Testimony now pivots to Millard's 24-foot car trailer. #TimBosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 1m1 minute ago
We're back. Sachak trying to learn proper pronunciation of Villada's name. Can't quite get it, says he does it "the Gringo way." #bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 49s49 seconds ago
And we're back. Sachak now asking Villada about a black trailer owned by Millard. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 50s50 seconds ago
And a red pickup truck the jury has heard was the only vehicle capable of pulling it. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 42s42 seconds ago
Sachak establishes that pronouncing Villada with an "L" sound rather than "Y" is the "gringo" way

"Villada" vs. "Viyada" (LL = y)

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 38s38 seconds ago
Now discussing Millard's 5th wheel trailer. Only vehicle he owned that could tow it was red Dodge pickup.