Bosma Murder Trial 04.21.16 - Day 38

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Crown now asking about Saturday, May 4, 2013.
by Adam Carter 10:49 AM

She was with Smich in the morning that day, she says. She doesn't remember seeing Millard.
by Adam Carter 10:49 AM

Now she says they were at Millard's house.
by Adam Carter 10:50 AM

 

[Inspector_North]

Yes he did, Mar 23rd. It was rather forgettable.. lol

Friend of AM who also stayed at DM's, and was always out with sports activities. Knew very little. MOO

 

[Just4TB]

This "was in love with him" does not describe a close, brotherly bond. It sounds more like the way you'd describe a couple that are intimate with one another. Unless I'm reading all these tweets incorrectly?

And in 25 years, they can celebrate their anniversary with the start of the 2nd sentence together...

 

[meterclicks]

She was there with Smich, Millard and Michalski.
by Adam Carter 10:50 AM

She says they were there all day.
by Adam Carter 10:51 AM

"I just overheard them talking about that they wanted to steal a truck," she says about Millard and Smich.
by Adam Carter 10:51 AM

 

[SnooperDuper]

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
They had a bedroom in the basement. #Bosma

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 1m1 minute ago
Meneses and smich stayed long periods in the basement of millards etobicoke home. @AM900CHML #TimBosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 3m3 minutes ago
Maplegate was a place they'd go to socialize. Sometimes friends from Oakville would come over. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 3m3 minutes ago
"It was a place we would go to socialize." Sometimes friends from Oakville would come over. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 3m3 minutes ago
"...and then nights would be extended for a week or two weeks." Had their own room in basement. Went there to socialize with Millard.

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 3m3 minutes ago Mississauga, Ontario
Meneses said she lived there with Smich, Millard + Millard's father. 'Not really live there, but stay for a night that would extend to a wk'

 

[SnooperDuper]

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 3m3 minutes ago
Fraser now asking her about events that begin on May 4, 2013 through to May 10. "For starters," he says. "ok." #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 2m2 minutes ago
May 4, Meneses was with Mark #Smich. Doesn't remember seeing #Millard that day.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 3m3 minutes ago
She was with Smich on the morning of Sat. May 4. Can't remember being with Millard. #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 3m3 minutes ago Mississauga, Ontario
Crown asking about Saturday May 4, 2013 #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
"We were at Dellen Millard's house," she says after some confusion, trying to remember. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 2m2 minutes ago
"Oh wait, we were at Dellen #Millard's house. I just needed to remember what day you were talking about."

 

[andreww]

That's exactly how I am reading it. It is getting my spidey senses tingling. Something seems so weird in DM and MS's relationship to me.

My husband has best friends that he loves like a brother but he is not "in love with them" nor does he change when in their presence.

Its something that kids say these days if two guys are close. Nothing odd about that at all.

 

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"I just heard little bits of their conversation." Michalski was also involved in the conversation, she says.
by Adam Carter 10:52 AM

"They were looking on Kijiji."
by Adam Carter 10:52 AM

"I didn't really understand it, because from what I knew, Dellen had a lot of money ... if he wanted a truck, just go buy one."
by Adam Carter 10:53 AM

 

[SnooperDuper]

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 2m2 minutes ago
May 4 2013 Meneses says she was with Smich in the morning at Millard's house. #TimBosma would disappear two days later.

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 2m2 minutes ago
Crown clarifies: Saturday was the 4th, Sunday the 5th, Monday the 6th #TimBosma disappeared.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
It was her, Dellen, Mark, and Andrew Michalski. She can't remember the time of day but "it was all day that they were there." #Bosma

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 2m2 minutes ago
She says it was her, Millard, Smich and Michalski and they were there all day. #TimBosma

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 2m2 minutes ago
Now to may 4th-2013 to the 10th. Meneses was w mark sat may 4th. All day. They w at millard house. @AM900CHML #timbosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 3m3 minutes ago Mississauga, Ontario
On Saturday May 4, 2013 Meneses says she was with Smich and Millard at Millard's Maplegate place #Bosma

 

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She says she told them that at the time, but didn't get a response.
by Adam Carter 10:53 AM

"I told him not to do anything, that he shouldn't, that it was a stupid idea."
by Adam Carter 10:54 AM

Now talking about Sunday, May 5, and a test drive.
by Adam Carter 10:54 AM

 

[mozzagirl]

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 18s19 seconds ago
Fraser asks her about a number. The phone user name is "Juice" but billing name is hers. #Bosma

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 10s11 seconds ago
Crown showing jury Meneses' cell phone subscriber information with the nickname "juice" given by Smich, she says. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont now
Seeing info on screen. Subscriber info for Marlena Meneses phone. "Juice" and "Say10" were Smich's nicknames. Says Dell made up "Say10."

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 16s17 seconds ago
"Juice" was a nickname for Mark, she says. "Say 10" too. "It means satan. Everyone called him it. Dell made up that nickname for him. "

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 29s29 seconds ago
She says Juice was a nickname for Smich. Say10 was also a nickname for Smich. Says Dell gave it to him. It means "Satan." #Bosma

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 20s20 seconds ago
Smich's nickname was "say10", Millard gave it him it meant "Satan" she said. "They told me it's what it meant." #Bosma

IMO, I find this very telling. Why would DM nickname him that? DM himself said nicknames are a reflection of who you are. Was this part of his grooming of MS?

 

[SnooperDuper]

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
Fraser asks if she overheard anything. "I just overheard them talking about that they want to steal a truck," she says. #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 2m2 minutes ago Mississauga, Ontario
'I overheard them talking that they wanted to steal a truck' Meneses tells court #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 2m2 minutes ago
#Smich and Meneses were at Maple Gate all day Saturday. "I just overheard them talking about stuff that they wanted to steal a truck."

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 3m3 minutes ago
"I was sitting on the couch. It was one of the computer rooms upstairs."

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 3m3 minutes ago
She overheard them saying they wanted to steal a truck, she was on a couch in the computer room upstairs. #TimBosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 2m2 minutes ago Mississauga, Ontario
Says she just heard little bits of the conversation #Bosma

 

[SnooperDuper]

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 3m3 minutes ago
She was on the couch in one of the upstairs computer rooms. Fraser asks who made the comment. She says she heard "bits" of convo. #Bosma

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 3m3 minutes ago
Millard, smich and michelski were in another room. She says "they wanted to steal a truck" millard and smich were talking. @AM900CHML

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 3m3 minutes ago
Andrew was there too, she remembers. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 3m3 minutes ago
"I just heard little bits of the conversation." #Millard, #Smich and Andrew Michalski was there. She didn't know what kind of truck

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 2m2 minutes ago
"They were looking on Kijiji."

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 3m3 minutes ago
She didn't know what kind hey wanted, but they were looking at different kinds of trucks for sale on kijiji. #TimBosma

 

[SnooperDuper]

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 3m3 minutes ago Mississauga, Ontario
Meneses said they were looking at different trucks. 'They were looking on kijiji' #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 3m3 minutes ago
Fraser asks if she knew what truck they wanted. She says "it was different trucks they were looking at...they were looking on kijiji" #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
"From what I knew Dellen had a lot of money, so I didn't understand, if you want a truck just go buy one," she says. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 3m3 minutes ago
"I didn't really understand it, because from what I knew Dellen had a lot of money. If you want a truck, just buy one."

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 3m3 minutes ago
She says she said that to them but got "no response at all." #Bosma

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 3m3 minutes ago
When she heard the discussion she didn't understand: "Dellen had a lot of money. Just go buy one." #TimBosma

 

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She says around that time Smich was "sick," and that he drank too much the day before.
by Adam Carter 10:55 AM

She says the only test drive she knew about was the one on the Monday, the 6th.
by Adam Carter 10:56 AM

"He just seemed like he wasn't feeling well, he was throwing up," she says about Smich.
by Adam Carter 10:57 AM

 

[SnooperDuper]

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 4m4 minutes ago Mississauga, Ontario
'I didn't understand it because Dellen had a lot of money' Meneses tells court

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 3m3 minutes ago
She says she told Smich "not to do anything, that he shouldn't, it was a stupid idea." #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 3m3 minutes ago
Meneses said she suggested #Millard buy a truck and got no response. She says she told #Smich it was a stupid idea and not to do anything.

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 3m3 minutes ago Mississauga, Ontario
Smich's ex girlfriend says she told her bf at the time it was a 'stupid idea' #Bosma

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 3m3 minutes ago
"They were looking at different trucks on kijiji" her reaction. "Why would he need to steal a truck. Millard had $ @AM900CHML #timbosma

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 4m4 minutes ago
She mentioned it, but they ignored her. She didn't want Smich to go. #TimBosma

 

[meterclicks]

They were at Smich's mother's at the time. She told him to get some rest.
by Adam Carter 10:57 AM

She went to work, and saw him again Sunday night. She says Smich didn't tell her about what he was doing.
by Adam Carter 10:57 AM

She now says she "thinks he saw Dell" for a bit.
by Adam Carter 10:58 AM

 

[Inspector_North]

So far, only RB, AJ and now MM acted like responsible adults three years later. DM didn't understand that MM was truly worried about MS, and he thought it childish. The real children were the ones that took their orders from DM without questioning. MOO

 

[SnooperDuper]

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 4m4 minutes ago
Fraser asks if she knows anything about a test drive. "One test drive," she says. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 4m4 minutes ago
On Sun. May 5, she went to work. Woke up that day at Mark's mom's house. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 3m3 minutes ago
Sunday May 5, Meneses was aware of a planned test drive. She went to work from #Smich mom's house.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 3m3 minutes ago
She doesn't remember seeing Mark that day. She asks if she can look over her statement. Fraser says it might come to her. Few more Qs.

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 3m3 minutes ago
Meneses says she told them she didn't understand why. No reponse. She told smich; "I told him not to do anything. It was stupid" @AM900CHML

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 3m3 minutes ago
Fraser asks if Smich was sick. She says yes he was sick, "I think he drank too much the day before (the Saturday)." #Bosma

 

[Just4TB]

Its something that kids say these days if two guys are close. Nothing odd about that at all.

Just asked my 17yo this same question.... "Not a frigg'n chance" was his reply... LOL