Bosma Murder Trial 05.02.16 - Day 43

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  • #221
Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 5m5 minutes ago
"Maybe smich told Kodiak I was not there. That smich had gone w two of his BOYZ, and something and happened." @AM900CHML

Rather a long way to bike or skate board, DM.
 
  • #222
Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 6m6 minutes ago
Leitch: He was asking you to bring a false story to Andrew Michalski...

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 6m6 minutes ago
she had been in university for 4 years with good marks Leitch: "So you're an intelligent woman." Noudga" "I honestly don't know why not."

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 6m6 minutes ago
It also says "Dell supported Mark financially." Mentions Costco and iTunes purchases. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 6m6 minutes ago
"Driving along, he would ask Dell to pull over. Mark would hop out, tag something quickly, and hop back in. It was a constant thing."

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 6m6 minutes ago
Millard wanted her to say Smich always carried a black back pack with spray cans inside and that he would always tag stuff.

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 6m6 minutes ago
Crown' he is asking u to bring a false story to michalski. U didn't go to police? Noudga; "no reason to go to police' @AM900CHML
 
  • #223
molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 6m6 minutes ago
Leitch: this is what Dell wants you to give in evidence right?
Noudga: he didn't say but it seems like it, yeah. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 6m6 minutes ago
Noudga says she didn't actually ever see #Smich tagging with spray paint. She agrees it seems like a scenario Millard wants her to paint

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 6m6 minutes ago
Noudga says she'd seen him take Mark shopping and pay for it. But can't recall if it was at Costco. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 6m6 minutes ago
Noudga says Smich had a black back pack sometimes, but never saw him tagging..Millard wanted her to say Mark had his iTunes password.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 6m6 minutes ago
He then says Mark would ask to buy dogs on Dell's iTunes account--this is underlined. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 6m6 minutes ago
"Dell supported Mark financially. He would take him shopping at Costco and put everything on Dell's membership."
 
  • #224
In this letter, Millard mentions the possibility of "Itchy" (who Noudga thinks is Smich) may have threatened violence against his family.
by Adam Carter 12:12 PM

Millard says he didn't attempt bail because "I would be a sitting duck for the killers who would want to ensure I never talk. Maybe Itchy told this to [Michalski]. Maybe [Michalski] will tell the court. I need this kind of help to win this."
by Adam Carter 12:14 PM

"Maybe Itchy's boyz were somehow already involved with the dead guy, or his wife," Millard writes. He seems to be suggesting this as a possible story Michalski could give.
by Adam Carter 12:15 PM

Ah yes, I remember when all of these fantasies of Dellen's made their way to Websleuths. :) Good times.
 
  • #225
He says "if I ever found a woman that deserves me, then I would make the best mate the human race has to offer."

DM is a seriously broken, irreparable waste of human life.
If i was his gf- i'd be some PO'd at that comment!!
 
  • #226
molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 6m6 minutes ago
"Mark had Dell's passwords." Again, underlined. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 6m6 minutes ago
She has no knowledge of Smich having Millard's password. Or Mark had access to everything in Dell's life, as Millard suggests in letter.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 5m5 minutes ago
It then says Dell gave Mark a job. Says in winter he worked at the hangar--"grinding away rust and reprinting." Underlined. #Bosma

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 5m5 minutes ago
Crown; ' u completed 4 yrs of university. U are smart. U are an intelligent person. U didn't understand what this mean?" @AM900CHML

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 5m5 minutes ago
"You heard and saw this at MapleGate. Mark had access to everything in Dell's life. Treated him like a brother. Supported him. Protected him

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 5m5 minutes ago
Millard suggests Smich relied on him for everything and that he worked for him.
 
  • #227
"In February, Dell was complaining to you about Mark. Mark wasn't putting in as much effort as he was before. Him and Marlena had taken up doing oxycontin. In Mark, Dell told you he was fed up with Mark." Noudga says Millard never said that.
by Adam Carter 12:29 PM

In this letter, Millard appears to be coaching Noudga on what to say. Noudga says these conversations never happened in real life.
by Adam Carter 12:30 PM

This is a long letter in which Millard is giving a specific backstory that Noudga says didn't happen.
by Adam Carter 12:31 PM
 
  • #228
Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 5m5 minutes ago
Noudga; " I didn't know it was a fabricated story. I honestly believed he was innocent." @AM900CHML

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 5m5 minutes ago
Millard suggests his goal was to make Mark self-sufficient and they planned to produce rap album together.

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 5m5 minutes ago
Dell goes on to write in 3rd person that "Dell would occassionally (sic) complain that Mark wasn't working nearly as much as he cost."

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 6m6 minutes ago
It then says "Dell's goal was to make Mark self sufficient." "Dell had talked about plans to produce a rap album with Mark."

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 5m5 minutes ago
Says Dell would supply the equipment and Mark would supply the "lyrical talent." #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 5m5 minutes ago
"Dell talked of the plan to produce a rap album with Mark. Dell would supply the equipment, and network with others.... It was Mark's dream.
 
  • #229
In this letter, Millard mentions the possibility of "Itchy" (who Noudga thinks is Smich) may have threatened violence against his family.
by Adam Carter 12:12 PM

Millard says he didn't attempt bail because "I would be a sitting duck for the killers who would want to ensure I never talk. Maybe Itchy told this to [Michalski]. Maybe [Michalski] will tell the court. I need this kind of help to win this."
by Adam Carter 12:14 PM

"Maybe Itchy's boyz were somehow already involved with the dead guy, or his wife," Millard writes. He seems to be suggesting this as a possible story Michalski could give.
by Adam Carter 12:15 PM

Wow...now we know where that "theory" originated. SMH :notgood:

MOO
 
  • #230
"Dell supported Mark financially," Millard wrote in the letter.
by Adam Carter 12:24 PM

"Treated him like a brother, supported him, protected him," Millard wrote.
by Adam Carter 12:25 PM

"I know Mark wanted to pursue a rap career, and Dell was supportive of that," Noudga says. Millard mentions producing a rap album for Smich in the letter.
by Adam Carter 12:27 PM
Wait a minute- aren't those Sachak's lines? Spoiler alert. MOO
 
  • #231
Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 5m5 minutes ago
Noudga: "I know, like, Mark wanted to produce a rap album. That he, like, wanted to be a rapper." Would freestyle sometimes.

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 5m5 minutes ago
"Dell began collecting props for the music videos," Millard writes.

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 5m5 minutes ago
Noudga testifies that #Smich would sometimes freestyle rap while they hung out. Millard supported his "career." #TimBosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 5m5 minutes ago
It then says Mark wasn't putting in enough effort. It says "Dell told you he was fed up with Mark." Underlined. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 5m5 minutes ago
Millard: "Him and Marlena had taken up with OxyContin." And that by March Millard had given up on him. Noudga says Millard never said that.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 5m5 minutes ago
It then suggests Mark and Marlene had taken up OxyContin.
 
  • #232
Mark Carcasole ‏@MarkCarcGlobal 2m2 minutes ago
"I believe we deserve each other. I believe you, you believe me," #Millard writes. "Amen,"
Comments woman beside me in court.

I just choked on my lunch reading that. LOL :laughing::laughing::laughing:
 
  • #233
Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 4m4 minutes ago
"In March Dell told you he was fed up with Mark. That Mark was falling back into his old ways. Drinking more. Using Oxy regularly."

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 4m4 minutes ago
nd that in March "Mark told you (underlined) he didn't think Dell was ever going to get around to making the rap album."

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 5m5 minutes ago
Noudga says she and Millard did not actually have this conversation. #TimBosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 4m4 minutes ago
Mark said he would move to Calgary with Marlena, according to Millard's letter. Noudga says she has no recollection of that.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 4m4 minutes ago
Then it says Mark and Marlena were talking about moving to Calgary. And suggests Noudga overheard Mark and Dell discussing.

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 4m4 minutes ago
"Dell told him to get any job he could...Mark asked about music video props." Noudga doesn't know about any of this stuff Millard suggests.
 
  • #234
molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 4m4 minutes ago
There's suggestion of a conversation/ fight between Mark and Dell about their music plans. Noudga says this never happened.

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 4m4 minutes ago
Millard sets out scenario where he & Smich are arguing about how much Smich drinks and how little he works.

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 4m4 minutes ago
Noudga says it "didn't happen the way it's written on the page."

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 4m4 minutes ago
Millard said Smich should spend more time working and less time drinking. Noudga says "The drinking part, yeah..."

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 4m4 minutes ago
Noudga: "it didn't happen the way it's written on the page." ...This appears to be Millard rewriting history. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 3m3 minutes ago
Noudga doesn't remember scenario where #Smich handed over his Oxy stash to Millard to "keep him honest."
 
  • #235
molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
The letter suggests Mark gave Dell a pill bottle full of orange oxy pills to hold. Noudga says never happened.

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 3m3 minutes ago
Whole story of Smich handing Millard his stash of oxy for safe keeping. Noudga says she never saw this.

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 2m2 minutes ago
Leitch: "There's bits and pieces of truth in there, but this is not true." Noudga agrees.

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 2m2 minutes ago
Noudga says there are bits and pieces of truth in the scenario Millard is laying out for her testimony. #TimBosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 2m2 minutes ago
Millard refers to Smich as his charity case.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
It then suggests she asked him why he supported Mark so much and that he essentially said Mark was his charity. #Bosma
 
  • #236
OxyContin = orange pill

(Great, here's another good one for my incriminating web browser history. 'Canadian oxycontin', to see what the pills looked like)
 
  • #237
Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 2m2 minutes ago
That Smich begged DM to help him hide what happened." I tried when police arrested it. That DM to try to get bail 'he wld be a sitting duck"

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
It then goes on to suggest Dell and Mark spent a lot of April together and that he had been complaining about Mark.

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 1m1 minute ago
For all of April Mark was with Dell almost every day, Millard suggests in his letter. Noudga says they were often together.

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 1m1 minute ago
Comes up w story DM wld buy the stolen truck. A prefect plan for smich. @AM900CHML

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 2m2 minutes ago
"For all of April mark was with Dell almost every day. I would often pick you up with Mark in the house." Noudga says this was often true.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
It then says "the first week of May, Dell told you (underlined) he had cash together and was buying (underlined) a diesel truck that week."
 
  • #238
"Mark went inside and came back with a clear pill bottle three quarters full of oxy pills. Mark said 'here, you can hold my stash to keep me honest,'" the letter reads. Noudga says that didn't happen.
by Adam Carter 12:33 PM

She says bits and pieces of these things have happened over time, but not a whole truth.
by Adam Carter 12:33 PM

Noudga says that often when Millard would pick her up, Smich would be there.
by Adam Carter 12:35 PM

"Dell told you he was going to cut Mark off soon. The first week of May, Dell told you he had the cash together, and that he was buying a diesel truck that week," the letter reads.
by Adam Carter 12:36 PM

Noudga says that didn't happen.
by Adam Carter 12:36 PM

"Reread this a couple times then DESTROY IT IMMEDIATELY," the letter reads." "Was this a script for you Miss Noudga, is this the way you read it?" Leitch says. Noudga says she didn't read it that way. She says she "acknowledges now" that it seems like a script. "I just ignored it at the time."
by Adam Carter 12:37 PM
 
  • #239
Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 1m1 minute ago
Every so often Millard would complain about #Smich, she says.

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 2m2 minutes ago
By late April, Dell was complaining more and more about Mark, writes Millard. Complains that Smich was smoking pot and tagging.

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 2m2 minutes ago
"Dell told you he was going to cut Mark off soon."

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 2m2 minutes ago
"Dell told you he was going to cut Mark off soon. The first week of May, Dell told you he had the cash and that he was buying a truck.."

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
It then ends "to be continued...reread this a couple times then DESTROY IT IMMEDIATELY." #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
Then it says "write me back if you think any revisions are unnecessary?" #Bosma
 
  • #240
... and part of that script was to say she collected $3,500 - $6,000 from the stash at DM's house - enough to buy a truck!
 
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