Bosma Murder Trial 05.03.16 - Day 44

[EspressoBean]

So when questioned by the crown, she said they started seeing each other 2010 (although she later mentioned maybe early 2011) and that she thought they were exclusive.
Now, she can confirm the number of months they were together but they weren't exclusive........ hmm?

 

[SnooperDuper]

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 6m6 minutes ago
Also went to Vegas. He arranged for her to take "acrobatic flying lessons" while there. New YEars 2012 sailed British Virgin Islands.

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 6m6 minutes ago
She took acrobatic flying lessons in Vegas. Also went to British Virgin Islands. They sailed. Couples vacation with Michalski & his gf.

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 6m6 minutes ago
Noudga says she and Millard weren't mutually exclusive. They purposely didn't want to define relationship "for a long time," she says.#Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 7m7 minutes ago
There they took acrobatic flying lessons. NYE 2012 they went sailing in British Virgin Islands w/ another couple. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 6m6 minutes ago
They also took another sailing trip through the north channel. Lake Superior. Just the two of them. Then to Jamaica. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 6m6 minutes ago
Sailed Lake Superior, went to Jamaica to a "very nice resort." Went snowboarding together. #Bosma

 

[CJPRINCESS]

According to her texts, it was DM that didn't have the time .... for her at least. MOO

And didn't she already testify that she was with him 6 days a week?

 

[SnooperDuper]

Mark Carcasole ‏@MarkCarcGlobal 6m6 minutes ago
Noudga says she and #Millard didn't "label" their relationship. Pillay listing off other trips. Jamaica, snowboarding 6 trips in 2+ years

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 7m7 minutes ago
They went snowboarding. 6 trips in just over 2 years dating, Pillay suggests. She agrees. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 7m7 minutes ago
Went to Lake Superior, Jamaica, snowboarding. Several trips. "He was good to you. Generous." Pillay says. "And kind," Noudga adds

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 6m6 minutes ago Toronto, Ontario
Pillay listing all the trips the two went on; six in two years, British Virgin Islands, Vegas, Jamaica. Pillay: He treated you well? N: Yes

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 6m6 minutes ago
Pillay: "He was good to you. He was generous to you. He treated you with respect." Noudga: "He was kind."

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 6m6 minutes ago
"He was good to you. Generous," Pillay suggests. "And kind" she adds. Agrees he was respectful to her. But not perfect. #Bosma

 

[Inspector_North]

So when questioned by the crown, she said they started seeing each other 2010 (although she later mentioned maybe early 2011) and that she thought they were exclusive.
Now, she can confirm the number of months they were together but they weren't exclusive........ hmm?

Still overlaps with her friend LB. MOO

 

[EspressoBean]

And didn't she already testify that she was with him 6 days a week?

I think she had said she spent the night with him 5-7 nights/week.

 

[RandomName479]

Help me understand how the "love you" texts have ANY relevance to the case? I, for one, do not care if he was nice to his gf. He murdered TB and she helped him cover it up. This line of questioning has me baffled.

 

[SnooperDuper]

Mark Carcasole ‏@MarkCarcGlobal 7m7 minutes ago
"He was good to you...treated you with respect. He was generous," notes Pillay. "And kind," adds Noudga. #MillardSmich

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 7m7 minutes ago
"He was respectful to you, but he was not perfect." No. Millard was afraid of commitment. Not unusual for young man, Pillay said

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 7m7 minutes ago
Noudga says Millard was generous, kind and treated her with respect. "He was kind," she says. He'd often cook her dinner. #TimBosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 7m7 minutes ago Toronto, Ontario
Millard was afraid of commitment. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 6m6 minutes ago
But he was afraid of commitment, she agrees. But he told her he loved her and wanted to be with her. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 7m7 minutes ago
Millard cooked dinner for her. Was afraid of commitment. He said he loved her and wanted to be with her, before his arrest. #Bosma

 

[meterclicks]

Court now being shown more "I love you" messages from April of 2013. Pillay is doing this to show his client did say loving things before he was jailed.
by Adam Carter 11:42 AM

"He told you repeatedly that he loved you," Pillay says.
by Adam Carter 11:43 AM

"Yes," Noudga responds.
by Adam Carter 11:43 AM

Noudga says they had discussed children, but she wasn't ready. "I wanted to be able to support the child."
by Adam Carter 11:44 AM

 

[RandomName479]

Still overlaps with her friend LB. MOO

And LW2

 

[mozzagirl]

In the beginning of their relationship, she and Millard weren't exclusive, she says. "There was never a promise ring ... or an engagement ring or anything like that?" Pillay asks. Noudga says no.
by Adam Carter 11:33 AM

Right. Because he hadn't given her a ring of any sort, that makes it ok to have other women on the side. Gotcha Pillay.

 

[Nosey Parker]

And didn't she already testify that she was with him 6 days a week?

Yep - something like that.

 

[SnooperDuper]

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 7m7 minutes ago
Pillay says letters are not the first time he says those things to you. She agrees, no. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 7m7 minutes ago
Millard told Noudga more than once that he loved her and wanted to be with her. The letters weren't the first time he expressed love.

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 6m6 minutes ago
Pillay is about to show text messages. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 6m6 minutes ago
Pillay is now showing her text messages between her and Millard leading up to May 2013. #Bosma

Mark Carcasole ‏@MarkCarcGlobal 7m7 minutes ago
Pillay notes #Millard often told Noudga in their time together that he loved her. She confirms. Pillay says those letters weren't 1st time.

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 7m7 minutes ago
Noudga says he told her he loved her on more than one occasion before the jailhouse letters were written. #TimBosma

 

[SnooperDuper]

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 6m6 minutes ago
All the details she says are tough to remember. Noudga;"its more difficult to recall details than people assume it to be"@AM900CHML

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 6m6 minutes ago
March 31 he texts her: "sounds good. On the plane. Love you! Xoxo" #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 6m6 minutes ago
Text March 31, 2013 from Millard to Noudga: "sounds good on the plane, love you! X0X0" #bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 7m7 minutes ago
Looking at message from Millard to Noudga 31 March 2013. "sounds good. on the plane. love you! xoxo." Millard was headed to Vegas

Mark Carcasole ‏@MarkCarcGlobal 7m7 minutes ago
Court now seeing text from #Millard to Noudga on March 31, 2013. "Sounds good. On the plane. Love you! Xoxo" as he was headed to Vegas

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 7m7 minutes ago
Jury now seeing phone records with milled texting Noudga "sounds good. Love you xoxo" #TimBosma

 

[SnooperDuper]

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 6m6 minutes ago
"More often than not" this was the way Millard spoke to her, Noudga says.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 6m6 minutes ago
Pillay says he was on his way to Vegas. He suggests this was the kind of texts she'd get from him. "More often than not," she agrees. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 7m7 minutes ago
"More often than not," that was how Millard spoke with her, says Noudga.

Mark Carcasole ‏@MarkCarcGlobal 7m7 minutes ago
"More often than not," Noudga says these are the types of affectionate texts she'd get from #Millard

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 7m7 minutes ago
Noudga says its the kind of thing she'd get from Millard "more often than not." #TimBosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 6m6 minutes ago
April 5, 2013 texts. Millard at 1:09 am: last day here tomorrow, nike's last chance, love you, looking forward to seeing you! Smelling you"

 

[EspressoBean]

Well. He texted her that he loved her before jail after two years together. I'm convinced now that his jailhouse letters were only sincere expressions of his love and not with intent to keep her connected and on his side. I'm glad we have cleared that up.........(I can't find my sarcasium font)

 

[SnooperDuper]

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 7m7 minutes ago
Jury seeing texts between noudga and DM. Loving. Affectionate. @AM900CHML

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 7m7 minutes ago
More text messages from Millard while in Vegas, sending love to Noudga

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 7m7 minutes ago
Now April 5. He texts her "last day here tomorrow, nike's last chance, love you, looking forward to seeing you! Smelling you." #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 7m7 minutes ago Toronto, Ontario
Millard's lawyer showing text messages from Millard to Noudga. He writes 'love you xoxo' a couple of times. #Bosma

Mark Carcasole ‏@MarkCarcGlobal 7m7 minutes ago
Another txt from Apr 5/13 #Millard tells her "love you, look forward to seeing you, smelling you."

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 7m7 minutes ago
April 6, 2013, 12:42 am: Millard: goodnight Rubix. I love you, look forward to seeing you in the next generation

 

[meterclicks]

The two had talked about "sailing around the world" before having children, Pillay says. "A life together, yes," Noudga says.
by Adam Carter 11:45 AM

Pillay says the texts are just the "tip of the iceberg" of their relationship.
by Adam Carter 11:46 AM

Pillay now touching on the escalation of MIllard's feelings. "With that ... there' comes a certain escalation of his love for you ... absence makes the heart grow farther," Pillay says. Noudga says yes.
by Adam Carter 11:47 AM

"He also make it clear he didn't expect you to wait for him," Pillay says, and Noudga agrees.
by Adam Carter 11:47 AM

 

[CJPRINCESS]

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 6m6 minutes ago
Noudga says she and Millard weren't mutually exclusive. They purposely didn't want to define relationship "for a long time," she says.#Bosma

Ya, I guess so...when ONE of them are engaged to someone else lol

 

[SnooperDuper]

Mark Carcasole ‏@MarkCarcGlobal 7m7 minutes ago
Another text from Apr 6, #Millard tells Noudga he loves her again.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 7m7 minutes ago
Now April 6. "...lights out, gonna get to sleep. Goodnight Rubix. I love you..." She responds "xo love you." #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 7m7 minutes ago Toronto, Ontario
Millard text to Noudga: "I desire your body. I enjoy your company. and I love You. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 7m7 minutes ago
Now on Apr 6. Similar. "And I love you too xo" says "Kinks" Millard says "I love your body I desire your company..."

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 7m7 minutes ago
April 6, 2013 6:15 p.m. Noudga: And I love you too X0 Millard: I desire your body, I enjoy your company, I love you.

Mark Carcasole ‏@MarkCarcGlobal 7m7 minutes ago
Apr 8/13 #Millard texts: "I desire your body I enjoy your company and I love you."