Bosma Murder Trial 05.03.16 - Day 44

[Typhoo1961]

I guess Pillay is trying to make DM look good. I'm not buying it and it has nothing to do with May 6.

 

[mozzagirl]

I need to step away from the computer for the day or else my eyeballs may roll out of their sockets with this line of questions.

 

[Sleepy Villager]

Help me understand how the "love you" texts have ANY relevance to the case? I, for one, do not care if he was nice to his gf. He murdered TB and she helped him cover it up. This line of questioning has me baffled.

I'm thinking it's the best he's got at this point.

 

[SnooperDuper]

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 7m7 minutes ago
Seeing more 'i love you' texts between them. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 7m7 minutes ago
April 16 another "I love you" exchange between them.

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 7m7 minutes ago
April 2013. DM to Noudga. "I desire your body. I enjoy your body. And I love u." Seeing lovey dovey texts between the couple. @AM900CHML

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 7m7 minutes ago Toronto, Ontario
Another text message where they exchange, 'I love yous.' Maybe Pillay's strategy here is for the jury to believe Millard's a romantic?

Mark Carcasole ‏@MarkCarcGlobal 7m7 minutes ago
Court seeing more texts with variations of "I love you" in them. #MillardSmich

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 7m7 minutes ago
Pillay is showing more examples of "I love you's" between the couple in 2013. "love you. I'm off to bed." "Goodnight, I send my kisses. xo"

 

[mozzagirl]

Plus, unless she was taking summer courses, there is no university/college in May. Every post secondary school in Ontario ends April 30th for the summer. So saying she was busy around the time of the murder is BS IMO.

 

[Nosey Parker]

Too bad someone can't show some texts between Tim and his wife!!

 

[SnooperDuper]

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 7m7 minutes ago
April 20, 12:57 a.m. "Love you, I'm off to bed," texts Millard to Noudga. #Bosma

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 7m7 minutes ago
Jury seeing text after text between the couple, exchanging their expressions of love. #TimBosma

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 7m7 minutes ago
Text to her. And a pic of pedo. (Dog) she writes. "he's the most photogenic dog. I love u both."

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 7m7 minutes ago
Pillay's point is that Millard told Noudga he loved her before he was arrested--not just once he was behind bars. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 7m7 minutes ago
May 3, 2013 Millard sends photo of Pedo the dog. She says he's photogenic & she loves them both.

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 7m7 minutes ago
May 3, 2013 Millard: BTW, love you and a heart-shaped emoticon and sends her a picture of Pedo. #Bosma

 

[Ontario Mom]

While CN is one of the last people on the planet I'd ever defend (right after Homolka, Bundy & Gein [sounds like a law firm, in hell]), I do want to mention that it is entirely possible her workload & being tired all the time did mess with her memory of events and details. I know, I know, many of you are thinking "oh come ON!" but realistically, there are lots of people that can take on a heavy & demanding workload but have the memory of a sieve as a direct result of that workload. My hubby is one of those people, so I know first hand what it's like. Just wanted to point out that she may not actually be lying about that.

 

[don_quixote]

Next, Pillay is coming up with the following syllogism: "DM loved CN, CN is a human, therefore DM loved humans". CN: "Most often than not".

 

[SnooperDuper]

Mark Carcasole ‏@MarkCarcGlobal 7m7 minutes ago
"I show you those text messages to give the jury an idea of your relationship with #Millard before his arrest," says Pillay.

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 7m7 minutes ago Toronto, Ontario
Pillay: I show you those messages to give the jury an idea of your relationship before his arrest. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 8m8 minutes ago
Pillay says he wanted the jury to get a sense of their relationship. Millard told Noudga repeatedly he loved her. They talked about kids.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 8m8 minutes ago
Pillay says he is showing the jury the nature of their relationship. He suggests they had discussed having a family (again pre-jail). #Bosma

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 7m7 minutes ago
Pillay says he is showing this to show DM did love her. They talked about kids. To show relationship.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 7m7 minutes ago
She was not ready, she says. Wanted to finish school and be able to support a child. She was only 21/22. #Bosma

 

[hippy_chic]

And LW2

And the former fiance, who had engagement photos with him. She was the one that came to the house when his father died in Nov 2012. MOO

 

[JPC]

Help me understand how the "love you" texts have ANY relevance to the case? I, for one, do not care if he was nice to his gf. He murdered TB and she helped him cover it up. This line of questioning has me baffled.

IMO he is trying to show that DM was not playing her or manipulating her with love and a future in his jailhouse letters because he told her and showed her love before. This is pretty weak

 

[SnooperDuper]

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 8m8 minutes ago
Noudga wasn't ready for kids. "I wanted to be able to support the child." She was 21-22 at the time.

Mark Carcasole ‏@MarkCarcGlobal 8m8 minutes ago
Pillay notes again to Noudga's agreement, that #Millard told her he loved her. They discussed kids. Noudga wanted to finish school 1st.

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 7m7 minutes ago
The reference to having children in his letters were not the first time. Noudga says she wasn't ready yet. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 8m8 minutes ago
Millard repeatedly told her he loved her. They discussed having children together before his arrest. She was not ready yet.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 8m8 minutes ago
Pillay says re: plans for sailing around the world (mentioned in letters)--that was not the first time that came up. She agrees.

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 8m8 minutes ago
They spoke about sailing around the world, before and after arrest. "A life together," Noudga says. #TimBosma

 

[MsSherlock]

And LW2

And the JS relationship and engagement??? Wonder if JS is following CN's testimony?

 

[SnooperDuper]

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 7m7 minutes ago
The sailing trip could take 5+ years and she had school etc. Timing wasn't right. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 8m8 minutes ago
They talked about sailing around the world for 5 years, maybe more. They spoke of a life together. But timing was not right.

Mark Carcasole ‏@MarkCarcGlobal 8m8 minutes ago
Pillay notes, as was discussed when Noudga testified before Crown, that they discussed sailing around the world before starting a family

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 8m8 minutes ago Toronto, Ontario
Millard and gf planned on sailing around the world, before beginning their life together. They wanted children. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 8m8 minutes ago
She agrees Millard spoke loving and lustful things to her before his arrest by text and in person. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 7m7 minutes ago
She says he said loving things to her "even in person...not just in text." #Bosma

 

[Nosey Parker]

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 7m7 minutes ago
She was not ready, she says. Wanted to finish school and be able to support a child. She was only 21/22. #Bosma

So, she didn't have any expectations of DM supporting their child?

 

[SnooperDuper]

Mark Carcasole ‏@MarkCarcGlobal 8m8 minutes ago
Noudga says #Millard was just as affectionate in person. "The texts were the tip of the iceberg," notes Pillay. "Yes,"'confirms Noudga.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 8m8 minutes ago
Pillay suggests jail letters were essentially him telling her the stuff he would say to her if he was out. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 7m7 minutes ago
Pillay says the letters from jail represented the sorts of things Millard would say in person when they were together.

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 7m7 minutes ago
Pillay says the difference is that when Millard was in jail he had a lot of time on his hands. "absence makes the heart grow fonder"

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 7m7 minutes ago
When Millard was arrested he "had a lot of time on his hands," says Pillay. And there was "escalation of his love for you."

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 7m7 minutes ago
When DM went to jail. "Distance made the heart grow fonder" @AM900CHML

 

[RandomName479]

I wish we could know if CN had prepared for this with DM's lawyers......we know she didn't ever grant the Crown an interview.....but what about "getting her story straight" with the defense? curious.....

 

[Inspector_North]

I don't get the point about being generous with a woman he was sleeping with? LW_2 got $10,000 for the casual thing. She deserved a lot more than just a few vacations.
MOO

 

[SnooperDuper]

Mark Carcasole ‏@MarkCarcGlobal 7m7 minutes ago
"Absence makes the heart grow fonder," says Pillay re: the lovey dovey aspects of #Millard's jailhouse letters to Noudga.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 7m7 minutes ago
Pillay suggests there was an "escalation" of love which she took to be bc he was in jail. "absence makes the heart grow fonder." She agrees.

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 7m7 minutes ago
Noudga agrees that after Millard's arrest, there was an escalation of his feelings because "absence makes the heart grow fonder." #TimBosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 8m8 minutes ago
"Absence makes the heart grow fonder," says Pillay. Noudga agrees. Millard's first letter made clear he didn't expect her to wait for him.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 7m7 minutes ago
Pillay suggests he made clear in letters that he didn't expect her to wait for him. That it could be a long time. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 7m7 minutes ago
Millard's first letter made clear he didn't expect Noudga to wait for him, Pillay says.