Bosma Murder Trial 05.04.16 - Day 45

[SnooperDuper]

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 8m8 minutes ago
Another note on the same page reads "Facts no threat to our family." She says same page doesn't mean it was written at the same time #Bosma

Mark Carcasole ‏@MarkCarcGlobal 8m8 minutes ago
"I will not make a statement - bad choice," says another Noudga note. She can't explain why. #MillardSmich

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 8m8 minutes ago
"I will not make a statement. Bad choice." Noudga wrote. She won't say why because of solicitor-client privilege.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 8m8 minutes ago
Another says "I will not make a statement - bad choice." She says can't comment on that one bc of solicitor client privilege. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 8m8 minutes ago
"I will not make a statement — bad choice," says her notes. Noudga won't speak to that under "solicitor/client privilege.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 8m8 minutes ago
Another reads "can I go to his trial (June 14)? Will police take me into custody then?" #Bosma

 

[loveisthemovement]

She's probably got more "goods" on him from the other two murders so I think he'll support her in her trial and just let her move on with her life if she is acquitted. Like he said....these two deserved each other.

MOO

As usual, Kamille, you are most likely correct.

 

[SnooperDuper]

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 8m8 minutes ago
Noudga was concerned she'd be taken into custody at a Millard court date, she wrote. "I knew they wanted me to make a stmt."

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 8m8 minutes ago
She wondered in notes if she went to Millard's trial that police would take her into custody. #Bosma

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 8m8 minutes ago
Noudga won't answer why she wrote "I will not make a statement" because of "solicitor-client privilege" she says. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 7m7 minutes ago
Dungey begins reading another section of her notes but Goodman cautions him he's not to go there. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 7m7 minutes ago
Another note: "They will harass my friends for info if I see them." She says media was asking friends of hers "a ton of questions." #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 7m7 minutes ago
"They will harrass my friends for info if I see them," Noudga wrote. "The media were finding friends that weren't even close to me,"

 

[mimimic]

What is in Milton? Not sure which locations brought up so far would ping as there...

It's the half way point between Toronto and Waterloo.

 

[SnooperDuper]

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 7m7 minutes ago
She says she knew her friends were being harassed by both police and media and she wondered why. #Bosma

Mark Carcasole ‏@MarkCarcGlobal 8m8 minutes ago
"They will harass my friends for info if I see them. Continuously." says a note written by Noudga. Reference to "media." #MillardSmich.

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 8m8 minutes ago
"They will harass my friends for info if I see them" she wrote. She says the media and police were hounding everyone she knew. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 8m8 minutes ago
"They will harass my friends for info if I see them. Continuously," she writes.

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 7m7 minutes ago
Noudga doesn't understand why she is on no contact list. "Will I never b able to see Del? Can I go to his trial? Worried cops w arrest her.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 7m7 minutes ago
Dungey suggests she must've known why. She says "into my friends? No." #Bosma

 

[SnooperDuper]

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 8m8 minutes ago
Tells court police/media were finding friends and asking them "tons of questions." She says she doesn't understand why friends were asked.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 8m8 minutes ago
Dungey says she's told this court she told friends (and her mom) about the letters Millard sent her. She says that wasn't her concern #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 8m8 minutes ago
Noudga wonders if this will happen continuously. Dungey says she told two friends and her mother about letters. If she doesn't talk...

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 8m8 minutes ago
"You must know why the police were harassing your friends right?" Dungey asks. Noudga "no" #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 7m7 minutes ago
Dungey says well, it would've been information police wanted for their investigation. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 7m7 minutes ago
"Harass is not the word, when police are doing an investigation," Dungey says. #Bosma

 

[Nosey Parker]

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 8m8 minutes ago
Another reads "can I go to his trial (June 14)? Will police take me into custody then?"

Okay lady - you knew nothing, did nothing, can't remember nothing - and yet you expect to be taken into custody?

 

[SnooperDuper]

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 7m7 minutes ago
She says it gets "annoying" when she's already given an answer and they wouldn't take it. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 7m7 minutes ago
Dungey reminds her she admitted telling some friends about her correspondence with Millard.

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 7m7 minutes ago
... police and media will ask other people. "It's not harassment, it's a police investigation."

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 7m7 minutes ago Toronto, Ontario
'I felt like I was being harassed' Noudga says while the police were investigating the Bosma case

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 8m8 minutes ago
Dungey says she was being "harrassed" for good reason. She had information. #TimBosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 7m7 minutes ago
She says in her mind she felt she was being harassed. Dungey says "well for good reason." #Bosma

 

[SnooperDuper]

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 7m7 minutes ago
She says police/media "harassed" — "it gets a bit annoying." She already told police she didn't want to talk. Dungey says "for good reason."

Mark Carcasole ‏@MarkCarcGlobal 7m7 minutes ago
"I felt like I was being harassed," by police says Noudga. "Well, for good reason!" says Dungey citing letters from #Millard.

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 7m7 minutes ago
Jury leaving for legal argument

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 7m7 minutes ago
Pillay objects. Jury asked to step out. #Bosma

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 8m8 minutes ago
CN writes. 'They w harrass my friends for info if I see them. Media asking questions.police asking questions"

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 8m8 minutes ago
"Harassed is not the word for when police are investigating something," Dungey says. "It gets a bit annoying," Noudga says. #Bosma

 

[Velma]

Goodman tells the jury not to blame any lawyer for making an objection.
by Adam Carter 11:03 AM

"I'm not a rat, but I do not want to remain under surveillance," Noudga wrote. Noudga says she's talking about Millard's "dealings in illicit drugs." "Dellen would often buy things in bulk," she says.
by Adam Carter 11:04 AM

We're not talking Costco anymore, are we?

 

[paris_paris]

It is believed that these pings indicate when DM and CN were travelling between Toronto and Waterloo. Driving along the 401, they would have passed through Milton.

They were done in Waterloo and driving from Waterloo to Toronto. Pinged in Milton at 1:23 and 3:43. Over 2 hours.

 

[SnooperDuper]

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 7m7 minutes ago
Pillay rises. Says he has an issue he'd like to raise. Jury steps out. #Bosma

Mark Carcasole ‏@MarkCarcGlobal 8m8 minutes ago
Noudga says she wasn't sure if she was receiving orders from #Millard by this point. DM's lawyer stands to raise an objection. Jury dismissd

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 7m7 minutes ago
"I've given an answer and they won't take it," she says. "From my point of view, it's harassment." #Bosma

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 7m7 minutes ago
Jury leaves after Pillay says "I have an issue" #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 7m7 minutes ago
Illegal for lawyers/court to confirm publicly if a lawyer is being paid by Legal Aid.

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 7m7 minutes ago
CN says "it got annoying being followed. Firmly answering questions. They didn't take" w good reason dungee says. U r getting details to DM.

 

[SnooperDuper]

Mark Carcasole ‏@MarkCarcGlobal 5m5 minutes ago
Legal arguments complete. Jury now being recalled. #MillardSmich

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 5m5 minutes ago
Jury and Noudga coming back. Noudga wearing black skirt, black blouse, heels today. Courtroom packed again today. #Bosma

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 5m5 minutes ago
Jury back. Noudga back. #BosmaTrial

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 4m4 minutes ago
Judge telling jury that if they are sent out of courtroom due to objection, they should blame him and not the lawyer. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 3m3 minutes ago
Dungey continues reading her letters. "I'm not a rat but I do not want to remain under surveillance."

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 4m4 minutes ago
Back. Dungey reads another note: "I'm not a rat but I do not want to remain under surveillance and remain questioned. How do you stop that."

 

[Velma]

"Did you consider the fact that you would be a rat for going to police and talking to them about the fabrications?" Dungey says. "I wasn't considered in his tampering in evidence because I hadn't received those letters," Noudga says.
by Adam Carter 11:06 AM

She's now over enunciating her words to get her point across.
by Adam Carter 11:06 AM

Noudga says she was being "constantly pressured" to make a statement.
by Adam Carter 11:07 AM

 

[SnooperDuper]

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 3m3 minutes ago Toronto, Ontario
Noudga writes in one note: I'm not a rat, but I do not want to remain under surveillance #Bosma

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 3m3 minutes ago
"I'm not a rat but I do not want to remain under surveillance" Noudga wrote. She says it was in reference to Millard's drugs. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 3m3 minutes ago
"I'm not a rat, but I do not want to remain under surveillance...How do I stop that?" she wrote.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 4m4 minutes ago
He asks what she meant by that. She says it's about drugs. "Dellen would often buy things in bulk," she says. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 4m4 minutes ago
Noudga says that was to do with Millard's drugs. He would buy weed in bulk. Also other drugs, sometimes, for recreation.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 3m3 minutes ago
Dungey asks if her going to police would make her a rat. She says she told them everything when she was arrested. #Bosma

 

[SnooperDuper]

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 3m3 minutes ago
Noudga says that's about Millard's "illicit drugs." Dungey asked if she was rat? She says when arrested, she told police everything. #bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 4m4 minutes ago
"When I was arrested I told police everything, doesn't that make me a rat?" Noudga says

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 4m4 minutes ago
"Would you consider yourself a rat by going to the police?" Dungey asks. Noudga says "I went to the police and told them everything" #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 3m3 minutes ago
Dungey says you didn't "go" to police-you were arrested. Asks if she considered "going" to them being a rat. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 3m3 minutes ago
She didn't go to police, she was arrested, would she consider herself a rat if she went to police with the evidence of witness tampering

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 3m3 minutes ago
Dungey corrects her "you were arrested" he asks the question again.#Bosma

 

[mozzagirl]

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 7m7 minutes ago
She says she knew her friends were being harassed by both police and media and she wondered why. #Bosma

Mark Carcasole ‏@MarkCarcGlobal 8m8 minutes ago
"They will harass my friends for info if I see them. Continuously." says a note written by Noudga. Reference to "media." #MillardSmich.

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 8m8 minutes ago
"They will harass my friends for info if I see them" she wrote. She says the media and police were hounding everyone she knew. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 8m8 minutes ago
"They will harass my friends for info if I see them. Continuously," she writes.

This is on the same theme that we have seen with CN before. She only seems to care about herself. Screw all her friends and family getting harassed, she wasn't going to make a statement. She could have put an end to having her friends being bothered but nope, that wasn't good for her.

 

[SnooperDuper]

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 4m4 minutes ago Toronto, Ontario
Dungey: Would you consider yourself a rat, if you went to police and told them about the tampering Millard wanted you to be involved in?

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 3m3 minutes ago
CN note. "I'm not a rat. I don't want to remain under surveillance and remain questioned. How do I stop that?" @AM900CHML

Mark Carcasole ‏@MarkCarcGlobal 3m3 minutes ago
Dungey reads note by Noudga reading "I'm not a rat.." asks her if she would've considered herself a rat if she'd gone to police about letter

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 4m4 minutes ago
She says she wrote this before receiving Millard's letters about witness tampering. She was concerned about drugs. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 4m4 minutes ago
Would she be rat if she went to police about witness tampering?

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 4m4 minutes ago Toronto, Ontario
Noudga answers no.

 

[Velma]

Noudga says "over time" she realized she wasn't being followed. "Although I was, they're just very good at their job," she says.
by Adam Carter 11:08 AM

Noudga says she "didn't know it would be of interest" to the police that Millard was writing her. "I thought the police would be more interested in the truth."
by Adam Carter 11:09 AM

Noudga says if Millard had written her the truth, she "probably" would have gone to police.
by Adam Carter 11:10 AM

"So you make the judgement call as to if this would be important to police or not?" Dungey asks. "I suppose I did," Noudga says.
by Adam Carter 11:10 AM

 

[SnooperDuper]

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 4m4 minutes ago
She says she didn't want his "image" to be harmed because didn't feel drugs were relevant. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 4m4 minutes ago
"I would have to explain his involvement in drugs and I didn't want his image to be tampered," Noudga says.

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 4m4 minutes ago
She doesn't want to answer the question, but eventually says "no." #Bosma

Mark Carcasole ‏@MarkCarcGlobal 4m4 minutes ago
Noudga not directly answering the question at first. But eventually answers with a "no." #MillardSmich

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 5m5 minutes ago
"I wasn't concerned about his tampering of evidence because I hadn't received those letters."

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 5m5 minutes ago
Dungey asks again--re: witness tampering, would you consider going to police about that being a rat? She says no. #Bosma