Bosma Murder Trial 05.11.16 - Day 47 - Smich Defence commences

[SnooperDuper]

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
Now age 19/20, in 2009. Impaired driving. A $1000 fine. 12-month driving prohibition. #Bosma

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 2m2 minutes ago
Smich was also convicted of impaired driving in 2009 and got a 12 month driving suspension. #TimBosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
He also has an outstanding charge of fail to comply in a mischief charge relating to graffiti, he agrees. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 2m2 minutes ago
"Fail to comply" and "mischief" are outstanding charges Smich faces - to do with graffiti.

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 2m2 minutes ago Toronto, Ontario
Smich has a criminal record, his lawyer reading aloud in court: break + enter from his youth, cocaine possession, impaired driving #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 2m2 minutes ago
Also has outstanding charge of fail to comply and mischief charge for graffiti with Arthur. Millard knew Smich had adult record.

 

[RandomName479]

My understanding is that MS's criminal record would not be admissible unless introduced by TD or if TD made reference to MS's character it could be referenced on a cross. My point is that TD is bringing it up......IMO to show that MS was a troubled young adult but also showing that his previous crimes have been non-violent.....MOO

 

[SnooperDuper]

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
Dungey asks if Millard knew about his record. Smich says he wouldn't have known about the youth charges but yeah. #Bosma

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 2m2 minutes ago
Smich also has some outstanding charges, fail to comply and mischief. Smich said Millard knew about his record. #TimBosma

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 2m2 minutes ago
2007. Possession of drugs -coke. 2009 DUI. Mischief charge- graffiti. Smich says DM knew about this. Now to "stealing of truck" @AM900CHML

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 2m2 minutes ago
Smich's friend Arthur is co-charged in the graffiti incident. Now getting into the theft of #TimBosma truck

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 3m3 minutes ago
Dungey says next he wants to go into "what this trial is really all about. The stealing of the truck." "Ok," Smich says. #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 2m2 minutes ago Toronto, Ontario
Dungey now moving to May 2013, when Bosma disappeared #Bosma #HamOnt

 

[Typhoo1961]

Smich says it was Millard's idea to steal a truck. "He wanted one that was similar to the one he already had, expect diesel fuel."
by Adam Carter 11:58 AM

"It was a plan for quite some time ... well over a year."
by Adam Carter 11:58 AM

Smich says there were plans, and they would go "scope things out."
by Adam Carter 11:59 AM

Premeditated?

 

[Ontario_girl]

I think the jury decides whether he's guilty, and for what. Then the judge takes some time, like a couple of weeks usually to decide on a sentence. The jury has no part in sentencing.

 

[SnooperDuper]

Peter Akman ‏@PeterAkmanCTV 2m2 minutes ago
#Smich has a criminal record. Several convictions as youth and adult #Bosma @CTVNews

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
It was Dell's idea. He wanted one similar to the one he had already, but with diesel fuel. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 2m2 minutes ago
"NOw I want to move to what this trial is all about. That is the stealing of the truck," says Dungey. Whose idea? "It was Dell's idea."

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 3m3 minutes ago
Smich says it was Millard's idea to steal a truck. He wanted a diesel truck instead of gas, Smich says. #TimBosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 3m3 minutes ago Toronto, Ontario
Smich testifies it was 'Dell's idea' to steal a truck #Bosma #HamOnt

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 3m3 minutes ago
Dungey asks when Smich learned he wanted to steal a truck. "It was a plan for quite some time," he says. "Well over a year." #Bosma

 

[meterclicks]

"We'd see how long it was parked there, where it goes, stuff like that. There was more than one instance that we found that sort of truck and scoped it out."
by Adam Carter 11:59 AM

"We'd just smash the window, pop the hood and try to start the vehicle like that," Smich says about their plans.
by Adam Carter 12:00 PM

Smich is looking right at the jury as he's explaining this.
by Adam Carter 12:01 PM

 

[Just4TB]

Premeditated?

Acknowledging that truck theft was premeditated. Not acknowledging murder was... yet?

 

[SnooperDuper]

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 3m3 minutes ago
It was Millard's idea. "He wanted one similar to the one he had, only with diesel fuel instead of gas," Smich says it was plan for some time

Peter Akman ‏@PeterAkmanCTV 3m3 minutes ago
"It was Dellen's idea." to steal #Bosma truck says #MarkSmich @CTVNews

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 3m3 minutes ago
More than a year they planned to steal a truck. "What happened was, there was plans of stealing the truck, we'd scope things out..."

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 3m3 minutes ago
Smich says it had been a plan for well over a year. #TimBosma

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 3m3 minutes ago
Whose idea was it to steal a truck? Smich. "It was dels. Well over a yr." Why did it take so long? "We had to scope things out."

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 3m3 minutes ago
Wanted diesel truck. "It was a plan for quite some time. I can't give an exact date. Well over a year."

 

[meterclicks]

Smich says Shane Schlatman would show them how to start a truck without keys.
by Adam Carter 12:01 PM

Smich was supposed to be "keeping 6" -- watching out while Millard steals the truck. "He knows more about, you know," Smich says.
by Adam Carter 12:02 PM

Smich says he's "done it before" starting an older vehicle with just a flat head screwdriver.
by Adam Carter 12:02 PM

 

[SnooperDuper]

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 3m3 minutes ago
You can't just take stuff, Smich says. You have to check it out first.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 3m3 minutes ago
Dungey asks why it took so long. Smich says at first they'd go "scope things out." They scoped more than one. #Bosma

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 3m3 minutes ago
Often they'd scope out a truck, find out whether it's diesel or gas and find out where it goes. #TimBosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 3m3 minutes ago
They'd look to see if a truck was diesel, where and how long they'd be parked for. Millard and Smich "scoped" several, he says.

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 3m3 minutes ago
"There was plans of stealing a truck. So we'd go scope things out." Would check out trucks, make sure they were diesel.

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 3m3 minutes ago
"There was more than one instance where we found that sort of truck and scoped it out."

 

[SnooperDuper]

Peter Akman ‏@PeterAkmanCTV 3m3 minutes ago
They were looking to steal a truck by "scoping it out." to see if sat alone, or for long before stealing it #Bosma @CTVNews

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 3m3 minutes ago
""We wld see the truck we wanted. See if it's diesel or gas. See where it's parked. Where it goes" then go back at night. @AM900CHML

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 3m3 minutes ago
They would become familiar with the habits of the truck they were "scoping." Then "smash the window, pop the hood, start it up."

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 3m3 minutes ago
Would go at night. "Then go and steal the truck. Smash the window, pop the hood and try to start the vehicle like that." Was plan.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 3m3 minutes ago
Dungey asks what the plan of action was. Smich says to go back at night time, make sure it's still there, and then move in. #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 3m3 minutes ago Toronto, Ontario
Once again, Smich consistently looks at the jury as he testifies #Bosma #HamOnt

 

[meterclicks]

Smich says taking trucks for a test drive was "more of a recent plan by Dell. All the other ones, nothing ended up happening."
by Adam Carter 12:03 PM

Smich says he was there on May 4, when they were both searching for trucks online. One was Kijiji, the other was Autotrader.
by Adam Carter 12:04 PM

Michalski and Meneses were also there. Also "some girl" there, he says.
by Adam Carter 12:04 PM

 

[SnooperDuper]

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 3m3 minutes ago
The plan was to go back at night and steal it. "Smash the window, pop the hood and start the vehicle like that." #TimBosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 3m3 minutes ago
"Smash the window, pop the hood and try to start the vehicle like that," he says. #Bosma

Peter Akman ‏@PeterAkmanCTV 3m3 minutes ago
#MarkSmich running through the two ways of stealing a truck without the keys. #Bosma @CTVNews

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 3m3 minutes ago Toronto, Ontario
He's explaining in detail how to steal a truck. #Bosma #HamOnt

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 3m3 minutes ago
Smich now telling the jury about the two differnt ways to steal a car. #TimBosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 3m3 minutes ago
Smich is explaining two ways to hotwire a vehicle. He's "not so familiar" with how to do the version under the hood.

 

[lclabtech]

Oh, there's Shane Schlatman again up to no good. No wonder AJ and him don't talk anymore.

 

[canadiangirl]

It has most definitely NOT been established that MS has SL's iPad.......he may have, but this has not once been reported in MSM. This is how rumours get started and perpetuated.....MOO

The poster said IMO

 

[SnooperDuper]

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 3m3 minutes ago
They wld smash the window. Pop the hood. Connect the wire and try to start it. Shane shlatman wld show them. @AM900CHML

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 3m3 minutes ago
Smich looks back and forth btwn Dungey and the jury as he explains this. #Bosma

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 3m3 minutes ago
Smich says his job was scoping it out and to "keep 6" watch Millard's back. #TimBosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 3m3 minutes ago Toronto, Ontario
Smich says his role was 'scoping' and going with Millard, to watch his back. #Bosma #HamOnt

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 3m3 minutes ago
Smich says 2 ways to steal truck. Older vehicles, "pop the ignition." Newer "pop the hood" and crack the engine. Shane taught them this.

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 3m3 minutes ago
Smich vaguely remembers the lessons Shane Schlatman, Millard's mechanic, gave on starting cars without keys. #TimBosma

 

[SnooperDuper]

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 3m3 minutes ago
Dungey asks what his role was. "Keep 6," he says. He'd watch Millard's back while he actually popped the hood. #Bosma

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 3m3 minutes ago
Smich says he was "watching' and it was DM who wld actually steal it. @AM900CHML

Peter Akman ‏@PeterAkmanCTV 3m3 minutes ago
#MarkSmich would "keep their 6." during thefts. He explains it is an army term for watching their backs. #Bosma @CTVNews

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 3m3 minutes ago
Smich was "the six," watching Millard's back. Who would steal the vehicle? "That would be Dell." #bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 3m3 minutes ago
"Would've been Dell," who did that work. Smich knew how to start older vehicles with a flathead screwdriver in the ignition.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 3m3 minutes ago
Smich says he knows how to steal older vehicles, "done it before" but Millard wanted a newer truck. #Bosma

 

[meterclicks]

Smich says Millard made arrangements for test drives.
by Adam Carter 12:05 PM

"He would go and call them," Smich says. "He would contact them himself."
by Adam Carter 12:05 PM

"he contacted them on his phone, not his personal phone. One time was with Igor, the other time was on May 6 with Mr. Bosma," Smich says.
by Adam Carter 12:06 PM

Smich paused and dropped his voice before saying Bosma's name.
by Adam Carter 12:06 PM

 

[SnooperDuper]

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 3m3 minutes ago
The trucks were newer, so Smich would be charged with watching out for unwanted attention.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 3m3 minutes ago
Dungey asks if they'd take other trucks out for a test drive. "No that was more of a recent plan by Dell," Smich says. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 3m3 minutes ago
All their past attempts had fallen through. Things didn't "fall into place," he says. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 3m3 minutes ago
Smich would "watch six." Test drives?

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 3m3 minutes ago
Something always went wrong with the trucks they scoped. They were moved or something. Deceided to try Kijiji & Autotrader #TimBosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 3m3 minutes ago
"That was more of a recent plan by Dell because all of the other ones, nothing ever ended up happening. othing would ever fall into place."