Bosma Murder Trial 05.11.16 - Day 47 - Smich Defence commences

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  • #281
Smich says Millard made arrangements for test drives.
by Adam Carter 12:05 PM

"He would go and call them," Smich says. "He would contact them himself."
by Adam Carter 12:05 PM

"he contacted them on his phone, not his personal phone. One time was with Igor, the other time was on May 6 with Mr. Bosma," Smich says.
by Adam Carter 12:06 PM

Is Smich the first witness out of all these shmucks who actually referred to TB by his name? Like acknowledged him as a human?

TD trained the S&^% out of him.
 
  • #282
I don't think the jury decides/recommends on sentencing? They can convict of a lesser charge for which sentencing could be presumed to be less, but I don't think they have any direct say. Maybe somebody else can confirm.

Sorry, the charge is what I ment.
 
  • #283
molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 3m3 minutes ago
Dungey asks about searching online listings for trucks, specifically on May 4, 2013. Smich says he was there. #Bosma

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 3m3 minutes ago
Nothing ever happened because the truck wld be moved. Didn't fall into place. So another plan was find one on kijhiji @AM900CHML

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 3m3 minutes ago
Millard and Smich were on separate computers, one on Kijiji one on Autotrader. They were also playing a game. Others were there too

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 3m3 minutes ago Toronto, Ontario
Smich tells the jury he and Millard searched Kjiji and Autotrader, to look for the truck Millard wanted #Bosma #HamOnt

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 3m3 minutes ago
He says it was him, Marlena, Millard, Michalski and "some girl" he'd never met before. #Bosma

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 3m3 minutes ago
Smich helped with searching online for a truck to steal on May 4 2013. He, Meneses, Millard, Michalski and some girl were there. #Bosma
 
  • #284
Some girl was present when they were all looking at ads for trucks on the 4th??? WTH???
 
  • #285
Smich describing the test drive with Igor Tumanenko. He says he was hung over that day, May 5.
by Adam Carter 12:07 PM

Smich says Millard came to pick him up and they went to Igor's building, a highrise in Toronto.
by Adam Carter 12:07 PM

Smich says they parked across the street so they wouldn't see the vehicle they were in.
by Adam Carter 12:08 PM
 
  • #286
molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 50s50 seconds ago
"Dell came, picked me up, I don't remember what the conversation would've been before that," he says. "Then we went to Toronto I believe."


12:08pm. You were close, andreww. MOO
 
  • #287
Is Smich the first witness out of all these shmucks who actually referred to TB by his name? Like acknowledged him as a human?

TD trained the S&^% out of him
.

That is good because the Bosmas might at least have some closure with this knowing what happened.
 
  • #288
Peter Akman ‏@PeterAkmanCTV 3m3 minutes ago
#MIllard and #Smich searched on @autoTRADER_ca and @Kijiji to find a truck to steal. He says that's how they found #Bosma @CTVNews

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 4m4 minutes ago
Smich says Dell made the test drive arrangements. Dungey asks how. Smich says he wasn't "fully aware of everything." #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 3m3 minutes ago
May 3. With Millard searching for trucks on-line. Michaski was there "& some girl." Millard would print stuff out from "Autotrader website."

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 3m3 minutes ago
Smich says Millard would print out the ad, call the seller and make arrangements. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 4m4 minutes ago
Smich says Millard would print off the listings and then call the seller. Smich says he wasn't there when he contacted them. #Bosma

Peter Akman ‏@PeterAkmanCTV 4m4 minutes ago
Smich says #Millard would call the ppl selling their vehicles and line up the sale. Smich claims he wasn't there. #Bosma @CTVNews
 
  • #289
I think it's been established already, that the girl in that photo was actually MS's friend.. the one that was crying in the news when he was first arrested...

I was the one who I believe originally floated that idea that it was CD, however I was proved wrong when ABro confirmed it was not her.
 
  • #290
He says they waited by the truck, and Igor came down.
by Adam Carter 12:08 PM

"We hopped in the car and we went for a ride," Smich says. He was in the back, Millard front passenger, Igor drove.
by Adam Carter 12:09 PM

"At this time we were scoping the vehicle, asking questions," Smich says. He says they were making sure there was no tracking device.
by Adam Carter 12:09 PM
 
  • #291
Some girl was present when they were all looking at ads for trucks on the 4th??? WTH???

Maybe one of the Lisas? I guess 'girl' implies younger, though.
 
  • #292
Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 3m3 minutes ago
Millard made test drive arrangements. Smich says he wasn't there at the time. "He contacted them on a different phone, not his personal"

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 3m3 minutes ago
"Well, sorry I don't want to mix this up," he says. "He contacted them on a different phone. Not his personal phone." #Bosma

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 4m4 minutes ago
Smich says he wasn't there when Millard contacted them, but he knew he used a differnt phone. Smich says he saw it. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 4m4 minutes ago
"I wasn't there when he contacted them. He contacted them on a different phone. No his personal phone. "

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 3m3 minutes ago
May 4th. Explains DM was looking at computer. Andrew michalski. Meneses. "I wasn't fully aware of everything.He would contact them himself"

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 3m3 minutes ago
"I seen the other phone, but I wasn't aware of the whole contact, he made them when I wasn't there." Smich says he never used "other" phone
 
  • #293
Smich says Millard made arrangements for test drives.
by Adam Carter 12:05 PM

"He would go and call them," Smich says. "He would contact them himself."
by Adam Carter 12:05 PM

"he contacted them on his phone, not his personal phone. One time was with Igor, the other time was on May 6 with Mr. Bosma," Smich says.
by Adam Carter 12:06 PM

Smich paused and dropped his voice before saying Bosma's name.
by Adam Carter 12:06 PM


Not ONCE did CN mention Tim Bosma's name. It may just be excellent coaching by TD, but MS is coming off much better than she did......he is looking at the jury, being respectful...MOO
 
  • #294
molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 4m4 minutes ago
"the first one was Igor. The second was May 6. Mr. #Bosma," he says quietly.

Peter Akman ‏@PeterAkmanCTV 4m4 minutes ago
Smich also says Millard used a different phone when contacting ppl selling trucks including #TimBosma @CTVNews

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 4m4 minutes ago
Millard would make arrangements when Smich wasn't there and Smich saw it used to contact Tumenenko and Bosma to say he was on his way.

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 4m4 minutes ago
Smich remembers test drive with Igor Tumenenko. "I was sick, prior to going," Smich says he was hung over.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 4m4 minutes ago
Dungey asks about May 5, 2013. Smich says he was sick. Hungover. Not feeling well. #Bosma

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 4m4 minutes ago
Smich says he wasn't there when DM called. It was DM who called Igor Tumanenko and Tim Bosma. @AM900CHML
 
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Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 4m4 minutes ago Toronto, Ontario
For the first time, Smich says 'Mr. Bosma.' He lowered his voice and looked down before speaking. #Bosma #HamOnt

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 4m4 minutes ago
Contacted "Igor and Mr. Bosma." Smich said he wasn't there when Millard made the calls. May 5. "I was sick prior to going. I was hungover."

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 4m4 minutes ago
"Dell came, picked me up, I don't remember what the conversation would've been before that," he says. "Then we went to Toronto I believe."

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 4m4 minutes ago
Smich says on May 5 he was hungover. They went to see Igor Tumenenko's truck in Toronto. They parked on a side road and approached on foot.

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 4m4 minutes ago
Millard picked him up. He doesn't remember the conversation. They went to Tumanenko's. Parked across from his building.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 4m4 minutes ago
Smich says they parked outside the building, across the street. Dungey asks if that was for a reason. #Bosma
 
  • #296
He says Millard was also asking about the vehicle. Igor then asked Millard if he wanted to drive it on the highway, and they switched.
by Adam Carter 12:10 PM

Igor testified he said that they "didn't want to know" what he did in the Israeli army on that drive. Smich says he didn't react to that and doesn't recall if one came from Millard.
by Adam Carter 12:11 PM

Smich says they then talked about how they were still going to look at two other vehicles Millard was looking at. This was "scoping out" the first one.
by Adam Carter 12:12 PM
 
  • #297
"We'd see how long it was parked there, where it goes, stuff like that. There was more than one instance that we found that sort of truck and scoped it out."
by Adam Carter 11:59 AM

"We'd just smash the window, pop the hood and try to start the vehicle like that," Smich says about their plans.
by Adam Carter 12:00 PM

Smich is looking right at the jury as he's explaining this.
by Adam Carter 12:01 PM
Omggggg. This gave me the creeps. They watched Tim? MOO
 
  • #298
Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 4m4 minutes ago
Millard picked Smich up, drove to high rise in Toronto. Parked across the street so "he wouldn't see the vehicle we were in, right?"

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 4m4 minutes ago
On May 5th. Smich was hungover. DM picked him up. They arrive at Tumanenko place. Park so he can't see them.

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 4m4 minutes ago
"I guess the reason was so he wouldn't see the vehicle we were in, right?" Smich says

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 4m4 minutes ago
"I guess the reason would be that they wouldn't see the vehicle we were in," Smich says. #Bosma

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 4m4 minutes ago
Smich said it was so no-one would see the vehicle they were in. #TimBosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 4m4 minutes ago
Then they spotted the truck in the parking lot outside Igor's building and waited for him to arrive. #Bosma
 
  • #299
Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 4m4 minutes ago
They checked out the only Dodge Ram in the apartment lot. Waited for Tumanenko. They looked at the truck for a bit.

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 4m4 minutes ago
Stood near the only Dodge Ram parked outside building. "Mr Tumanenko arrived. He greeted us." Igor and Dell looked at truck.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 4m4 minutes ago
He says Igor came, they looked around the car for about a minute, then hopped in the car. #Bosma

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 4m4 minutes ago
Tumenenko greeted them, try hopped in the car and went for a ride. #TimBosma

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 4m4 minutes ago
"We were waiting for him. He came. Greeted us. We hopped in the car and went for a ride. I was in the back behind the driver" @AM900CHML

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 4m4 minutes ago
"Then, we went for a ride." Smich says he sat behind the driver. Igor was driving first.
 
  • #300
It seems like some info dropouts are starting to happen now.
 
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