Bosma Murder Trial 05.11.16 - Day 47 - Smich Defence commences

[matou]

Where did this "sheet" come from? Was it already in Tim's truck? Did DM carry it in his murse??? I doubt it.

 

[Kamille]

I'm sure that is exactly it. He just learned his best friend killed someone and has a gun with him. I'd be scared for my life. I believe MS's testimony.

He is driving a different vehicle. No reason why he had to stay around after they stopped at Bobcat. IF he didn't know what was happening and he was scared of DM. Not buying it.

MOO

 

[SnooperDuper]

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 3m3 minutes ago
"The blue um, toilet paper, no, paper towel, mechanic type towels.." Smich is describing all the cleaning supplies they got rid of after

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 3m3 minutes ago
Dungey says we've seen photos of the truck on a green tarp--asks if it was on a tarp at this point. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 3m3 minutes ago
Smich says no. It got moved onto a tarp afterwards. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 3m3 minutes ago
At first #Bosma truck not on a tarp. "It got moved onto a tarp afterwards...I'm just trying to think of what happened next."

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 3m3 minutes ago
#TimBosma's truck was moved to a tarp after -- as it was in the photo Art Jennings snapped before calling Crimestoppers

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 3m3 minutes ago
Smich says next Millard "pulled the incinerator into the hangar, making text messages to police who work for him." #Bosma

 

[SnooperDuper]

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 3m3 minutes ago
Dungey asks how he knew that. Smich said he was there. He saw it. #Bosma

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 3m3 minutes ago
Bosma truck initially on tarp. Moved after. DM pulls incinerator inside. Smich says he then texted employees to stay away. @AM900CHML

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 3m3 minutes ago
Millard pulled Eliminator into hangar. Then he texted his staff. "I was there. I seen him do it." Smich used MIllard's cell to text Marlena.

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 3m3 minutes ago
Smich saw Millard texting his employees to not come into work. Smich was trying to get hold of Marlena but his phone was dead. #TimBosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 3m3 minutes ago
He said he needed to get ahold of Marlena but his phone was dead. Used Millard's phone and messaged the iPad. Got no reply. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 3m3 minutes ago
He iMessaged Marlena. "There was no reply." #bosma

 

[Kamille]

We're going to find out why somebody left the hangar for 40 minutes. Timmy's run. Propane run. Heard lots of theories.

edit: OK. To get gas. I didn't post quick enough.

40 minutes to get gas? :waitasec:

MOO

 

[brightii]

Sorry but this gruesome testimony convinces me even more that MS is guilty of 1st degree murder! How and why if DM had taken MS by surprise would MS not veered off the path and headed for the nearest police station? Why would MS not have called police to report TB's murder and he could have led LE to DM right then and there?

No normal innocent person no matter how shocked would have followed DM blindly in the dead of night to his deserted farm location after having just witnessed the victim slumped over dead in the front seat of his truck and knowing that DM had just executed TB for no reason but for his desire for a truck! A normal person who had no involvement in the murder would never have trusted DM alone with himself afterwards, IMO.

All MOO.

 

[SnooperDuper]

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 3m3 minutes ago
Smich said he needed to get a hole of Marlena but his phone was dead. He used Millard's but there was no answer. #TimBosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 3m3 minutes ago Vaughan, Ontario
Smich says Millard pulled incinerator into hanger. Here's a police photo, when it was found in woods #Bosma #HamOnt



molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 3m3 minutes ago
Dungey stops him. Asks: "when you were leaving the #Bosma home and went back into the Yukon--did you have occasion to talk to Marlena?"

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 3m3 minutes ago
Smich says yes he did talk to her while he was in the Yukon. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 3m3 minutes ago
While leaving #Bosma neighbourhood, Smich talked to Marlena on phone...Once #Bosma truck stripped and Eliminator in hangar went to Oakville.

Peter Akman ‏@PeterAkmanCTV 3m3 minutes ago
Smich "Once the interior was stripped out. then we left to go back to Oakville." #Bosma @CTVNews

 

[SnooperDuper]

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 3m3 minutes ago
Smich says the Eliminator was brought into the hangar and they left to Oakville to pickup Marlena Meneses. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 3m3 minutes ago
After everything was stripped, they go back to Oakville. Picked up Marlena. He recalls making a stop before that to get a phone.

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 3m3 minutes ago
The next morning they picked up Marlena in Oakville. We have seen footage of them arriving. She testified Smich & Millard were happy

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 3m3 minutes ago
"I believe we needed to make a stop before we had to pick up Marlena." Smich wanted to pick-up one of his other phones. Changed SIM cards.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 3m3 minutes ago
He says he had multiple phones so took a SIM card from one into the other. Can't remember exactly which was which. #Blsma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 3m3 minutes ago
He says he had multiple phones so took a SIM card from one into the other. Can't remember exactly which was which. #Bosma

 

[JPC]

He is driving a different vehicle. No reason why he had to stay around after they stopped at Bobcat. IF he didn't know what was happening and he was scared of DM. Not buying it.

MOO

Not buying it either. I think that everything that he is saying step by step is true but he is leaving out the fact the he was aware that it was a premeditated murder. He seems to be very convincing of this so good work on TD's part. MOO

Justice for Tim Bosma

Justice for Laura Babcock

 

[SnooperDuper]

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 3m3 minutes ago
Smich says he didn't see the Eliminator flare at the hangar. #TimBosma

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 3m3 minutes ago
Smich claims he never saw eliminator flame.
After interior stripped. Eliminator brought in. Went to Oakville to get Marlena. @AM900CHML

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 3m3 minutes ago
Meneses was at 30 Speers when she was picked up. Smich managed to contact her through one of the devices. "I give her a hug," Smich says

Peter Akman ‏@PeterAkmanCTV 2m2 minutes ago
Smich says he did not see the elimator lit or the flames coming out. #Bosma @CTVNews

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
Marlena gets in the Yukon and asked where they were. Smich says she was kind of stressed out. Says it was also early am. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 3m3 minutes ago
"She asked where we were," Smich says "She was kinda stressed out. It was early in the morning, but she was maybe mad she couldn't get me."

 

[SnooperDuper]

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 2m2 minutes ago
Smich says he stayed away when Millard used Eliminator at hangar...now picking up Marlena at her sister's place morning of May 7.

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 2m2 minutes ago Vaughan, Ontario
Crown presented this surveillance photo, believed to be the moment the Eliminator was used, at the hangar #Bosma



molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 3m3 minutes ago
"Dell said he got the truck. We proceeded to go to my mother's house. Got dropped off there. He told me he'd be back later to pick me up...

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 3m3 minutes ago
They picked her up and Millard dropped Smich off at his mother's house. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 3m3 minutes ago
"Dell said we got the truck. We proceeded to go to my mother's house. He said he'd be back to pick me up so we could move the incinerator."

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 3m3 minutes ago
Says Marlena was stressed out. DM told her he got the truck. We went to our mothers home. Went to sleep. @AM900CHML

 

[SuperSpy]

40 minutes to get gas? :waitasec:

MOO

The incinerator runs on propane, not gas.

 

[SnooperDuper]

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 3m3 minutes ago Vaughan, Ontario
Smich glazed over this - saying only 'he tried to get as far away as possible' when it was in use #Bosma #HamOnt

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 3m3 minutes ago
"...so that we could move the incinerator. I ended up going to sleep." He says he didn't tell Marlena what had happened. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 3m3 minutes ago
Told Marlena they got the truck. Dell dropped him at his mom's. Dell said they would go back to hangar later to get Eliminator.

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 3m3 minutes ago
"I ended up going to sleep that day." Smich says he was exhausted, out of it. #TimBosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 3m3 minutes ago
"I was so exhausted, out of it, at that point." #Bosma

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 4m4 minutes ago
Smich said he slept and didn't tell Meneses about what happened. #Bosma

 

[cckp72]

Sorry but this gruesome testimony convinces me even more that MS is guilty of 1st degree murder! How and why if DM had taken MS by surprise would MS not veered off the path and headed for the nearest police station? Why would MS not have called police to report TB's murder and he could have led LE to DM right then and there?

No normal innocent person no matter how shocked would have followed DM blindly in the dead of night to his deserted farm location after having just witnessed the victim slumped over dead in the front seat of his truck and knowing that DM had just executed TB for no reason but for his desire for a truck! A normal person who had no involvement in the murder would never have trusted DM alone with himself afterwards, IMO.

All MOO.

Agree with you. But it seems to me that DM has some sort of 'hold' on people - ie CN, and the rest of the rotten bunch of them. I don't think any of them are 'normal'.

 

[SnooperDuper]

Peter Akman ‏@PeterAkmanCTV 4m4 minutes ago
Smich says he didn't tell his ex-gh Meneses about what happened. "I was so exhausted. I was out of it at that point." #Bosma @CTVNews

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 4m4 minutes ago
He says he then woke up, got in contact with Dell. Can't recall the exact conversation. #Bosma

Peter Akman ‏@PeterAkmanCTV 3m3 minutes ago
Smich says he didn't tell his ex-gf Meneses about what happened. "I was so exhausted. I was out of it at that point." #Bosma @CTVNews

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 4m4 minutes ago
Says his shoulder was still in pain when he woke. He contacted Dell. Doesn't remember the conversation"I was trying to, i guess, play along"

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 4m4 minutes ago
He didn't say much to Marlena. "I was so exhausted." Woke he was "still in pain" because of his shoulder. "I was trying to play along."

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 3m3 minutes ago
"I was trying to play along, I guess, like everything was alright," he says. #Bosma

 

[raining]

Ummm if MS's is telling the truth, does this mean that CN helped burn all the stuff from Tims truck>??

ETA: oops got ahead of myself. Never mind.

 

[SnooperDuper]

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 3m3 minutes ago
Smich says he woke up and his shoulder hurt, talked to Millard and just tried to play along as if everything was alright. #TimBosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 3m3 minutes ago Vaughan, Ontario
On the day after, Smich says 'I was trying to play along, like everything was okay' #Bosma #HamOnt

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 4m4 minutes ago
Dungey asks what he means. He says he didn't want to not answer the phone or anything and cause some suspicion.. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 4m4 minutes ago
"There were so many thoughts going through my head," Smich says he didn't want to not answer the phone and cause suspicion.

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 4m4 minutes ago
"He said he was coming to pick me up. I didn't want to not answer the phone and cause some kind of suspicion. After seeing him like that..."

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 3m3 minutes ago
"After seeing him like that... I was just trying to pretend like everything was normal, even though it was not." #Bosma

 

[cckp72]

What gets me though is why he didn't come clean to the police after DM was aleady in custody. Seems to me any 'threat' he might have had would be over by then.

 

[Kamille]

Sorry but this gruesome testimony convinces me even more that MS is guilty of 1st degree murder! How and why if DM had taken MS by surprise would MS not veered off the path and headed for the nearest police station? Why would MS not have called police to report TB's murder and he could have led LE to DM right then and there?

No normal innocent person no matter how shocked would have followed DM blindly in the dead of night to his deserted farm location after having just witnessed the victim slumped over dead in the front seat of his truck and knowing that DM had just executed TB for no reason but for his desire for a truck! A normal person who had no involvement in the murder would never have trusted DM alone with himself afterwards, IMO.

All MOO.

We do say this with the knowledge of the other two alleged murders though. MS was not afraid of DM IMO. He was his "partner in crime" , his "bro from another ho" and knew about everything DM was capable of. As well as what he himself was capable of.

MOO

 

[tinman]

The incinerator runs on propane, not gas.

The breslau airport, despite being an airport is pretty isolated/remote. The time seems right, I know the area well, grew up near that airport.