Bosma Murder Trial 05.16.16 - Day 49

[SnooperDuper]

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 18m18 minutes ago
morning break. #Bosma back soon.

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 18m18 minutes ago Toronto, Ontario
Judge calls for morning recess. 20 minute break. #Bosma #HamOnt #Smich

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 18m18 minutes ago
Sachak says the jury will decide if they think he's telling the truth. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 18m18 minutes ago
Sachak says he wants full picture. Smich says "That's why I'm here testifying and telling the truth."....Judge orders morning recess.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 18m18 minutes ago
Taking the morning recess. Back in 20 mins. #Bosma

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 18m18 minutes ago
MS gets irritated w persistent questioning on where the gun is. Sachak openly mocks him. "That's why I'm here testifying telling the truth"

 

[andreww]

MS is in for a marathon. The fact that Sachak is still circling the first question, MS will have his memory (time on stand) tested along with his endurance.

MOO

Smich is just as experienced at being a criminal as Sachak is at being a lawyer. I expect a long and frustrating few days, but already you are seeing obvious deception from Smich. By the time this is over the jury will have a very clear picture of him.

 

[SnooperDuper]

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 17m17 minutes ago
Sachak' "the jury will decide if you are telling the truth." @AM900CHML

Peter Akman ‏@PeterAkmanCTV 13m13 minutes ago
Break. #Bosma

 

[Errrr]

@PeterAkmanCTV [video=twitter;732228483905126400]https://twitter.com/PeterAkmanCTV/status/732228483905126400[/video] Millard seemingly enjoying the cross examination of Smich. Small smile on his face. Watching his co-accused. #Bosma @CTVNews

Not sure why DM is enjoying it. He's toast too.

I think DM is a vengeful guy. If MS doesn't give up the gun it makes himself look guilty but if he does he could be a target for the guy he gave it to. He's stuck and DM enjoys watching that.

 

[spanishshara]

Smich is just as experienced at being a criminal as Sachak is at being a lawyer. I expect a long and frustrating few days, but already you are seeing obvious deception from Smich. By the time this is over the jury will have a very clear picture of him.

I think DM's team doesn't have much to fall back on in terms of proving DM's role/innocence but I think by the time this is over it'll be enough where they both get first-degree. Although I thought that even before Smich took the stand.

 

[mimimic]

Why doesn't he just say the size of the shovel??! I keep picturing the little ones a foot long, for hand gardening - to fit in his backpack. This is weird.

 

[Ontario Mom]

Interesting short article about marijuana and memory:

http://www.hightimes.com/read/how-does-pot-affect-memory

"The latest research on the effect of cannabis on memory has shows that it affects spatial memory but not associative memory. Smoking marijuana might not affect your memory of what you and your friends talked about while walking around town, but you might not remember exactly what route you took."

...

"After waking up from a night of smoking with your buddies you’ll still have hazy recollections of everyone’s hilarious antics, but the exact location of the pizza place you ate at will always remain a mystery."

I think I posted that link a few days ago I have a family member who used to smoke pot daily from his teens until his late 20's and it's had a horrific affect on his memory. Now in his 50's it's something he struggles with all the time, and wishes he could go back & change

 

[NashBridges2]

Ummmm, I'd bury the gun no matter if I was the one who actually pulled the trigger as well. At that point, he was probably just trying to cover BOTH of their tracks, not just his own. There's no way I'd want to be caught with a gun used in a murder even if I didn't pull the trigger.

Am I alone in that?

 

[Inspector_North]

MS remembered everything DM did the night of the 6th and morning of the 7th. He even remembered giving MM a hug when he picked her up. And this was immediately after the horror night, an all nighter where he claimed to collapse once home.
MM remembered everything Daly told him.
MS remembered everything about the moment he received the toolbox from Arthur
MS remembered where the gun was in the garage, and that he wrapped it.

Too much of a memory loss the moment he decided to bury it for me to accept as truth.

MOO

 

[JPC]

I hope eventually it gets released to the public. <modsnip>

If someone is in court today, does the video indicate that MS has a black eye or facial abrasions? I am still trying to figure out if it happened during the time of his arrest or while incarcerated before his first court appearance of if MSM got that wrong.

 

[SnooperDuper]

Shannon Martin &#8207;@ShannonMartinTV 4m4 minutes ago
BOSMA TRIAL: Smich faces rapid fire questioning

After two days on the stand telling HIS version of the truth,... http://fb.me/7fPtpwwmx

 

[andreww]

I think DM is a vengeful guy. If MS doesn't give up the gun it makes himself look guilty but if he does he could be a target for the guy he gave it to. He's stuck and DM enjoys watching that.

I don't think he gave it back to ISHO. I honestly believe he buried it. The would he say about taping the gun up if he didn't bury it, that just makes him look more guilty. I feel that he buried two guns and that is why he can't reveal anything about it.

 

[spanishshara]

Ummmm, I'd bury the gun no matter if I was the one who actually pulled the trigger as well. At that point, he was probably just trying to cover BOTH of their tracks, not just his own. There's no way I'd want to be caught with a gun used in a murder even if I didn't pull the trigger.

Am I alone in that?

I suggested this scenario as well. MS is scum IMO but I can understand why he would respond that way and want rid of it. Especially with his sister telling him. He was likely paranoid and knew either way he had a massive role in Tim's murder. He knew either way he would be implicated. He benefits from not knowing but it doesn't 100% convince me that DM didn't pull the trigger either. Everybody is so sure of what they'd do if it were them but the brain reacts to crisis, stress and trauma differently. There is a psychology aspect there. I think MS knows way more than he's letting on but he's gonna go the CN route. But I could understand why he wanted rid of it thinking that would solve all his problems.

 

[Errrr]

Shannon Martin &#8207;@ShannonMartinTV 21m21 minutes ago Toronto, Ontario
Millard's lawyer attempts humour, gets a few laughs from the public gallery. Smich remains straight faced. #Bosma #HamOnt

molly hayes &#8207;@mollyhayes 21m21 minutes ago
"I don't recall exactly what happened that night," Smich says. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner &#8207;@HefCHCHNews 21m21 minutes ago
Smich says he doesn't recall how many hands he used to cycle to the forest to bury the gun. #TimBosma

Susan Clairmont &#8207;@susanclairmont 21m21 minutes ago
"I don't recall exactly what happened that night," Smich tells the court. Asked if he put spade in knapsack? Doesn't remember.

molly hayes &#8207;@mollyhayes 21m21 minutes ago
Sachak asks if he taped the spade to his head. Smich says "well that's highly unlikely...but like I said I do not remember." #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner &#8207;@HefCHCHNews 21m21 minutes ago
Highly unlikely he taped it to his head, he says. "Sir, like I said, I do not remember." #TimBosma

This sounding like Green Eggs and Ham!

 

[Velma]

Court back in session, the jury is being recalled.
by Adam Carter 11:59 AM

Sachak asks Smich to describe the area where he buried the gun. "I don't recall," Smich says. He says he couldn't see any city lights.
by Adam Carter 12:00 PM

Smich says all he could see was starlight or moonlight.
by Adam Carter 12:01 PM

"Is there a road you can recall or a main intersection?" Sachak asks. "I don't recall," Smich says while sighing.
by Adam Carter 12:01 PM

 

[SnooperDuper]

Peter Akman &#8207;@PeterAkmanCTV 26s26 seconds ago
We are back #Bosma @CTVNews

Susan Clairmont &#8207;@susanclairmont 38s38 seconds ago
Jury coming back. Smich on the stand...Some problems with Twitter lagging, but we'll hope for the best. #Bosma

Colin Butler &#8207;@ColinButlerCBC 57s58 seconds ago
Jury back. Mark Smich continues his cross examination with Millard lawyer Nadir Sachak. #TimBosma

molly hayes &#8207;@mollyhayes 42s43 seconds ago
Back. Sachak asks him to describe the area where he buried the gun. Type of trees etc. Smich doesn't remember. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner &#8207;@HefCHCHNews 1m1 minute ago
Sachak asking Smich to describe the area where he buried the gun. "I don't recall." Could he see city lights? No. Woulda been forest smwhre

Alex Pierson &#8207;@AlexpiersonAMP 1m1 minute ago
Jury back. Resumes w questions on where the gun is buried. "A forest somewhere?" @AM900CHML

 

[Jug Up]

Too much of a memory loss the moment he decided to bury it for me to accept as truth.

MOO

This. We aren't talking about smoking getting high and forgetting where you put your bag of Cheetos.

This is burying a gun used in the horrific murder of an innocent man, potentially putting MS in serious legal trouble and a life in jail. You don't forget where you buried that gun because you were high.

Blaming it on marijuana? Come on.

 

[SnooperDuper]

Peter Akman &#8207;@PeterAkmanCTV 1m1 minute ago
Back to asking questions about where #Smich buried the gun "What kind of trees were there... maples, pine?" #Bosma @CTVNews

Susan Clairmont &#8207;@susanclairmont 2m2 minutes ago
Sachak asking what forest looked like. What kind of trees? Could he see city lights?

Shannon Martin &#8207;@ShannonMartinTV 2m2 minutes ago Toronto, Ontario
And we're back. Millard's lawyer still focused on the forest (which could be ANY forest in Oakville) where Smich buried the gun. #Bosma

molly hayes &#8207;@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
Sachak asks him if there were any city lights. Smich says Oakville is a town. Sachak asks if he could see lights. #Bosma

Colin Butler &#8207;@ColinButlerCBC 2m2 minutes ago
Sachak again pressing for details of where Smich buied the gun. "Did you see any lights?"

Colin Butler &#8207;@ColinButlerCBC 2m2 minutes ago
"I don't really recall" Smich says. #Bosma

 

[Velma]

Sachak asks him to "describe the grass." Smich says he doesn't recall, but it was trimmed.
by Adam Carter 12:02 PM

Sachak asks if it was a park or a playground, and Smich says no, it's a forest. Sachak asks if he saw any wildlife, and Smich says no.
by Adam Carter 12:02 PM

Why would the grass be trimmed in a forest? He remembers that tiny detail but nothing else of the night?

"How deep into the ground did you dig?" Sachak asks. "Im not exactly sure," Smich says. Also says he doesn't know how long he dug.
by Adam Carter 12:03 PM

"Tell us, how many seconds were you digging for?" Sachak says. "I don't recall," Smich says. He says the hole he dug would have been "relatively small."
by Adam Carter 12:04 PM

 

[littlesauce]

MS remembered everything DM did the night of the 6th and morning of the 7th. He even remembered giving MM a hug when he picked her up. And this was immediately after the horror night, an all nighter where he claimed to collapse once home.
MM remembered everything Daly told him.
MS remembered everything about the moment he received the toolbox from Arthur
MS remembered where the gun was in the garage, and that he wrapped it.

Too much of a memory loss the moment he decided to bury it for me to accept as truth.

MOO

As someone with a horrific memory, I feel for him. I have a very hard time remembering specifics in many situations, however other moments in my life are as clear as can be.