Bosma Murder Trial 05.17.16 - Day 50

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  • #21
Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 2m2 minutes ago Toronto, Ontario
Smich repeats. 'I was a drug dealer, I was doing illegal things. I was also doing thefts with Dell... I wouldn't call it that.' #Bosma

molly hayesVerified account ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
Smich says he was also doing thefts with Dell. Sachak suggests he had no faith in any police. He disagrees. #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 2m2 minutes ago Toronto, Ontario
Sachak doesn't give up. Says Smich doesn't believe in police. Smich disagrees. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 5m5 minutes ago
Smich says Sachak is changing his words. He did illegal things like sell drugs and steal with Millard. Sachak trying to ID "value system"

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 1m1 minute ago Toronto, Ontario
Sachak started to bring up Smich's rap career, his lyrics. #Bosma #HamOnt

molly hayesVerified account ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
Sachak says we've heard about his musical aspirations and his rap songs. Smich says yes. Started as a hobby then became a career goal #Bosma

Peter Akman ‏@PeterAkmanCTV 2m2 minutes ago
"Your value system are to run from police at all costs" Millard's lawyer. Smich "that is absolutely not correct." #Bosma @CTVNews

molly hayesVerified account ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
He and Dell were thinking of starting a studio. #Bosma\

molly hayesVerified account ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
Sachak suggests he was a prolific writer. Smich says yes, he grew up on that stuff. #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 2m2 minutes ago Toronto, Ontario
Sachak: The raps reflect your innermost thoughts don't they? Smich: No they do not. #Bosma #HamOnt

molly hayesVerified account ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
Sachak suggests the raps reflect his value system, his "innermost thoughts." Smich says "absolutely not...it's an art form." #Bosma

Peter Akman ‏@PeterAkmanCTV 2m2 minutes ago
"I grew up with rap music. I wanted to pursue a career." Smich in cross #Bosma @CTVNews

molly hayesVerified account ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
Sachak suggests this again. "Your raps are a diary of your innermost thoughts." Smich says "absolutely not." #Bosma

Peter Akman ‏@PeterAkmanCTV 2m2 minutes ago
"You were writing rap music even after Mr. Bosma was shot." Millard's lawyer. "No I was not." Smich. #Bosma @CTVNews

molly hayesVerified account ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
Sachak says we're going to look at some of his raps. #Bosma

molly hayesVerified account ‏@mollyhayes 51s52 seconds ago
First seeing an extraction report on the screen now. It's a text file, not a video. #Bosma
 
  • #22
"Its me muthphuka, so relentless
Runnin from the cops outta them spots, over them fences
Im high, so im half fu--kin demented
But i still
gotta get away nice and plendid
Got my 9
So im running like its nothing .. til Im dead, kid
I am NOT unstoppable
But I like to live my life without the cops involved
Its not probable, but if it happened to me ... problem solved!

Im just comin for the loot, so shoot first, i come for your new purse and wallets
I want some chronics, and that juice cuz Im an alcholic
Im runnin away from the place in a cash race
by Adam Carter 10:20 AM

Sachak told Smich to rap that in front of the jury, Goodman says he only has to read it.
by Adam Carter 10:21 AM
 
  • #23
Peter Akman ‏@PeterAkmanCTV 1m1 minute ago
Millard's lawyer asking Smich to wrap for the jury. Smich lawyer objects. He will read it. #Bosma @CTVNews

molly hayesVerified account ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
Smich says this is just a partial song.

Sachak asks Mark Smich to rap the lyrics we see on the screen.
Dungey objects. #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 1m1 minute ago Toronto, Ontario
Smich is now reading them lyrics. #Bosma #HamOnt

molly hayesVerified account ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
"It's me muthaf...a so relentless," it starts. Smich is reading (but not rapping/performing) the text now. #Bosma

Peter Akman ‏@PeterAkmanCTV 1m1 minute ago
Smich rap lyrics "It is me mother f..kers... running from the cops... i have got my nine... i'm so demented..." #Bosma @CTVNews

molly hayesVerified account ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
"Runnin from cops, outta them spots, over them fences..." One line references "got my 9." #Bosma
 
  • #24
I understand what Sachak is attempting to do by showing the jury MS lyrics and wanting to be a rapper but I also think IMO it shows how little they have. Sure some hip hop artists have had criminal pasts but plenty don't and are in character when they rap and write their lyrics. Like I said - I get what he's trying to do and it helps poke holes in the image MS wants to display to the jury but boy do I think Sachak is reaching here. I think MS should get first-degree but this makes me feel like DM's team is throwing anything to the wall that sticks.
 
  • #25
@susanclairmont [video=twitter;732578145849749504]https://twitter.com/susanclairmont/status/732578145849749504[/video]Sachak makes error on date. Smich points it out: "It may be one of those brain cramps again sir. You're probably under a lot of stress."

Ok I got a chuckle out of that.
 
  • #26
I understand what Sachak is attempting to do by showing the jury MS lyrics and wanting to be a rapper but I also think IMO it shows how little they have. Sure some hip hop artists have had criminal pasts but plenty don't and are in character when they rap and write their lyrics. Like I said - I get what he's trying to do and it helps poke holes in the image MS wants to display to the jury but boy do I think Sachak is reaching here. I think MS should get first-degree but this makes me feel like DM's team is throwing anything to the wall that sticks.

Well...but seeing that Smich actually modified lyrics to this rap on May 21, 2013 is pretty relevant.
 
  • #27
The iPad data says those lyrics were first created on Feb 16, 2013, and modified on May 21, 2013.
by Adam Carter 10:23 AM

"A nine is a 9 millimetre handgun, right?" Sachak says. Smich yes it is, yes. Sachak says 9 mm is written on the Walther PPK. Smich says it does, but it has something following it after that too.
by Adam Carter 10:25 AM

Sachak just messed up a time period, and Smich takes advantage: "It's probably one of those brain cramps again sir," Smich says. "You're probably under a lot of stress."
by Adam Carter 10:26 AM



Zing.
 
  • #28
molly hayesVerified account ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
Smich says he and Millard would write raps together. Says some of those ones won't be able to be presented. #Bosma

Peter Akman ‏@PeterAkmanCTV 1m1 minute ago
"We would write rhymes together." Smich with Millard about rap music. Hundreds of words and lyrics found on ipad. #Bosma @CTVNews

molly hayesVerified account ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
Sachak asks when he wrote the part about running from cops. He says these are different raps, written at different times. #Bosma

molly hayesVerified account ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
He's not sure when he wrote it, but says it would've been between those two dates shown. #Bosma

molly hayesVerified account ‏@mollyhayes 58s58 seconds ago
Smich says he's not sure, Dellen could've even written it but says it looks more like something he wrote. #Bosma

Peter Akman ‏@PeterAkmanCTV 1m1 minute ago
More Smich rap lyrics - "I am high so I am half f..kin' demented." #Bosma @CTVNews

molly hayesVerified account ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
Sachak asks about "got my 9." Smich agrees this is a reference to a 9mm handgun. #Bosma

Colin ButlerVerified account ‏@ColinButlerCBC 1m1 minute ago
The rap makes reference to "running from cops" being high, being an alcoholic, "got my 9," which Smich admits is a reference to a gun #Bosma

molly hayesVerified account ‏@mollyhayes 57s58 seconds ago
Sachak says the Walther PPK has a 9 on the side. Smich suggests going back to the photo of it in Millard's hand to see it. #Bosma

***Oh snap LOL


Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 1m1 minute ago Toronto, Ontario
Smich lyrics: 'Got my 9, so im runnin like its nothing. Til im dead, kid!' #Bosma #HamOnt

molly hayesVerified account ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
Sachak asks again if there's a 9 written on it. Smich says it does but something following as well. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 2m2 minutes ago
Smich is recalling the evidence of forensics expert Plath on what 9mm means on the murder weapon, "The one with Dell's fingerprints."

Susan ClairmontVerified account ‏@susanclairmont 1m1 minute ago
This rap was created Feb. 16, 213, modified May 21, 2013, after #Bosma murder.

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 1m1 minute ago
Millard's fingerprints were identified by an officer from the hands in a photo with a gun. #TimBosma

molly hayesVerified account ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
Sachak makes a mistake. Smich catches it. Smich says "might be one of those brain cramps again, sir." #Bosma

molly hayesVerified account ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
"You're probably under a lot of stress," Smich says. #Bosma

molly hayesVerified account ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
Justice Goodman steps in, moves things along. #Bosma


***MS should have been a comedian LOL
 
  • #29


Sachak told Smich to rap that in front of the jury, Goodman says he only has to read it.
by Adam Carter 10:21 AM

RSBM

Hahaha is this guy for real? Sorry but he's really annoying me and I'm not in any "camp" for either of the accused.
IMO he's treating this like a circus with all his antics.
 
  • #30
Well...but seeing that Smich actually modified lyrics to this rap on May 21, 2013 is pretty relevant.

Sure. But we don't convict people based on rap lyrics.

Sachak's angle seems a bit desperate to me. But I'm sure it'll help poke holes in Smich's image which is ultimately the goal for DM and his team.
 
  • #31
@susanclairmont [video=twitter;732578145849749504]https://twitter.com/susanclairmont/status/732578145849749504[/video]Sachak makes error on date. Smich points it out: "It may be one of those brain cramps again sir. You're probably under a lot of stress."

Ok I got a chuckle out of that.

Interesting. I'm starting to believe that MS is not as dumb as what I first thought. Which fits with at least one of his sisters seeming to be quite intelligent.
He has some pretty good responses to Sachak which leads me to think he's more on the ball than I first assumed.
 
  • #32
Hope for his sake MS doesn't get too cocky with Sachek. Can't imagine the jury would like that.
 
  • #33
Sure. But we don't convict people based on rap lyrics.

Sachak's angle seems a bit desperate to me. But I'm sure it'll help poke holes in Smich's image which is ultimately the goal for DM and his team.

BBm Obviously. My point is that for a guy who is scared, paranoid, in great shock, blah blah blah, it's interesting that he would be modifying these rap lyrics at that time.
 
  • #34
Sachak points out some of these lyrics were written after Millard was arrested. Smich says no. "With any iPhone or smart device ... there's an auto save funtion on it. Even if you had one letter or subtract a space ... then that can be a modification."
by Adam Carter 10:28 AM

Smich says there's no period after "Im never last place," so that could be the case there.
by Adam Carter 10:29 AM

"I don't need to learn how an iPad works," Sachak says, as Smich is explaining it.
by Adam Carter 10:30 AM



MS is giving Sachak a taste of his own medicine this morning.
 
  • #35
Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 2m2 minutes ago Toronto, Ontario
Rap lyrics were modified May 21, 2013. This is after Millard's arrest (May 10) and Bosma's disappearance (May 6) #Bosma #HamOnt

molly hayesVerified account ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
The modified date is after Dellen Millard's arrest on May 10, 2013. So Sachak suggests at least some lyrics were added after that. #Bosma

molly hayesVerified account ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
Smich says that even if you add one letter or a space or a period, that would count as a modification. #Bosma

Susan ClairmontVerified account ‏@susanclairmont 2m2 minutes ago
Smich: "with any iPhone or smart device...there's an auto save function on it." Saying he didn't rewrite his rap after #Bosma death.

molly hayesVerified account ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
Sachak asks what was modified on May 21, 2013. "It's on your iPad," he says. Smich says lots of people used it. #Bosma

molly hayesVerified account ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
"Tell us sir what part was modified on May 21, 2013," Sachak says. Smich explains again that it could've been something small. #Bosma

Susan ClairmontVerified account ‏@susanclairmont 2m2 minutes ago
Smich says if someone opened rap on his iPad it would show as "modified" on May 21, 2013. Says he wasn't working on his rap. #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 2m2 minutes ago Toronto, Ontario
Smich maintains he didn't touch his lyrics, stored on his ipad, after Bosma's death. Millard's lawyer trying to suggest otherwise. #Bosma

molly hayesVerified account ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
Smich points out that the last line doesn't have a period or exclamation mark (as the other lines do). Says maybe that was it. #Bosma
 
  • #36
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Sachak just messed up a time period, and Smich takes advantage: "It's probably one of those brain cramps again sir," Smich says. "You're probably under a lot of stress." Adam Carter

Haaa .... good comeback Mark . He is pretty quick on his feet when he wants to be.
 
  • #37
Smich says his girlfriend or someone else could have also been using it. He says he also could have added or deleted a character.
by Adam Carter 10:31 AM

"We're you planning a police officer lined up and doing 100 metre sprint?" Sachak says. "It's not a plan, it's a rhyme," Smich says.
by Adam Carter 10:32 AM

Smich says the lyrics are "probably more in the sense of drug dealing."
by Adam Carter 10:33 AM
 
  • #38
Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 57s58 seconds ago Toronto, Ontario
Smich suggests his gf could've possibly used his ipad, explaining possible reason for modification to lyrics after Bosma's death. #Bosma

Susan ClairmontVerified account ‏@susanclairmont 50s51 seconds ago
Smich says Marlena also used his iPad. #Bosma Sachak: "I don't need to learn the workings of an iPad."

Peter Akman ‏@PeterAkmanCTV 55s55 seconds ago
Now Millard's lawyer asking what rap lyrics Smich wrote after #Bosma murdered. Smich not sure. Might be his ex-gf #Bosma @CTVNews

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 1m1 minute ago Toronto, Ontario
Sachak focusing on this line "im just comin for the loot, so shoot first" #Bosma #HamOnt

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 59s59 seconds ago
Sachak asks about the lyrics about running from police. "It doesn't mean anything, it's a rhyme, sir," Smich says. #TimBosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 55s56 seconds ago Toronto, Ontario
Smich "This is a portion of something that is not completed" about the lyric #Bosma #HamOnt

Peter Akman ‏@PeterAkmanCTV 52s53 seconds ago
"I am running away from police in a cash race." Smich rap lyric. He says it is just a rhyme. Nothing else. #Bosma @CTVNews
 
  • #39
"Somebody modified these lyrics ... after Dell was arrested," Sachak says.
by Adam Carter 10:33 AM

Now onto another set of lyrics.
by Adam Carter 10:34 AM

Title: Im dark white

Never lonely, it's just me and my chrome piece
by Adam Carter 10:34 AM

Goodman says shut it off, and the jury is sent out.
by Adam Carter 10:34 AM
 
  • #40
BBm Obviously. My point is that for a guy who is scared, paranoid, in great shock, blah blah blah, it's interesting that he would be modifying these rap lyrics at that time.

Some people take to writing as a way to de-stress. Many people have journals and such which can range from anything to inner most thoughts to absolute garbage nothing.
I think they are reaching here.
 
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