Bosma Murder Trial 06.10.16 - Day 59 - Charge to jury

[ILoveDateline]

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 47s47 seconds ago
Goodman recalls Sloots's testimony about random match probability for DNA. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 53s53 seconds ago
Blood stains from lip of Eliminator "was from Bosma."

Adam Carter ‏@AdamCarterCBC 57s57 seconds ago
He says it's "safe to say no one else on this planet" could have been the source the the DNA talked about at trial. #TimBosma #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 59s59 seconds ago
Another expert testified about DNA sample testing. 2 blood stains on lip of Eliminator were from #TimBosma

Adam Carter ‏@AdamCarterCBC 1m1 minute ago
Goodman also talking about the DNA evidence. #TimBosma #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 2m2 minutes ago
He testified about random match probabilities. 1 in 1 quadrillion means no one else on this planet could have the same DNA.

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 2m2 minutes ago
Sloots testified about blood stains and DNA testing.

 

[Kamille]

You can't "match" DNA samples, but we've been told they're consistent with Bosma's to the level of 1 in several quadrillion.
by Adam Carter 12:19 PM

He's now reading out all the places Bosma's blood was found.
by Adam Carter 12:20 PM

 

[ILoveDateline]

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 48s48 seconds ago
Black nitrile glove seized from Millard's pocket during arrest has DNA that cannot be excluded at Bosma's.

Adam Carter ‏@AdamCarterCBC 1m1 minute ago
He's now reading out all the places Bosma's blood was found. #TimBosma #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 1m1 minute ago
Also, blood stains on Tim's truck: #Bosma cannot be excluded as the source. Goodman citing long list of blood stains on truck.

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 2m2 minutes ago
Goodman tells jury if they accept DNA expert's opinion "no one else on this planet could be the source of the DNA found on the Eliminator."

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 2m2 minutes ago
The expert also found #TimBosma blood inside and outside his truck.

Adam Carter ‏@AdamCarterCBC 2m2 minutes ago
You can't "match" DNA samples, but we've been told they're consistent with Bosma's to the level of 1 in several quadrillion #Bosma #TimBosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 2m2 minutes ago
"It is safe to say no one else from this planet could be the source of that deposit of DNA on the Eliminator," says judge.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
With a RMP like 1 in 18 quadrillion, he says it is "safe to say that no one else on the planet could've been the source of that DNA." #Bosma

 

[Kamille]

Millard's satchel that was seized tested negative for blood or DNA, Goodman says. It was found inside a washing machine.
by Adam Carter 12:22 PM

Now taking the lunch break. Back at 1:30 p.m.
by Adam Carter 12:22 PM

 

[ILoveDateline]

Adam Carter ‏@AdamCarterCBC 8s9 seconds ago
Now taking the lunch break. Back at 1:30 p.m. #TimBosma #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 21s22 seconds ago
We are taking the lunch break now. Back at 1:30pm. #Bosma

Adam Carter ‏@AdamCarterCBC 27s28 seconds ago
Millard's satchel that was seized tested negative for blood or DNA, Goodman says. It was found inside a washing machine. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 31s32 seconds ago
Lunch break #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 58s59 seconds ago
Millard satchel bag tested negative for blood and DNA. Found in washing machine.

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 1m1 minute ago
Millard's and Noudga's and #Bosma's DNA were all found on gloves in Millard's pocket upon arrest.

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 1m1 minute ago
MS not on trial for drug trafficking, thievery or vandalism."u can't make conclusions based on his rap music." Can be used for context.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
Goodman is running through items on which Bosma's blood/DNA was found. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 1m1 minute ago
Noudga admitted wearing gloves at hangar on May 9. Her DNA found on a black nitrile glove.

 

[ILoveDateline]

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 33s33 seconds ago
Going through expert testimony and how it can be applied to this case. @AM900CHML

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 36s36 seconds ago
This is hard for Sharlene #Bosma to listen to. She is weeping....Lunch now for jury.

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 51s51 seconds ago
Jury going to lunch, returns at 1:30pm. #TimBosma

 

[NashBridges2]

Holy, judge is really being thorough. Sometimes, too much is just that, too much. Hope he doesn't confuse anyone.

 

[billandrew]

Yes, the post assumed the additional truck sightings were not Tim's. As I said the post was intended to generally match Smich's account, deviating only to include the testimony from Bullman that claimed they continued west on Book. The post also does not assume SS video is only 3 hours out because in my post the SS time it is relative only to itself. I attempted to explain 34 minutes between Yukon sightings on the SS video in a way that might fit selective evidence supporting MS's claim. It is not the only or the best hypothesis, but it's one that would work. Every interpretation of the timeline evidence in this case is selective in some way.

So you agree there is a 10 minute (give or take a few minutes) gap in MS's story, and you fill it in by adding a loop on Book Rd before reaching Super Sucker. That's fair.

 

[brightii]

:heartbeat::cupcake: :cupcake::cupcake:Love and treats for the tweet team! :tyou:

 

[ILoveDateline]

:heartbeat::cupcake: :cupcake::cupcake:Love and treats for the tweet team! :tyou:

Thanks.

That's it for me today though, I have to get some work done this afternoon. I'm hoping someone can take over.

 

[Kamille]

So you agree there is a 10 minute (give or take a few minutes) gap in MS's story, and you fill it in by adding a loop on Book Rd before reaching Super Sucker. That's fair.

Either way, whether it be the 10 minute gap with the truck going back and forth in front of SS or a 10 minute gap for a detour on Book Rd, it's likely TB was killed somewhere within that gap IMO.

 

[brightii]

I know it had to be said, but it must have felt harsh for Tim's family to hear when the judge admonished TL for asking the jury not to forget TIm in his closing statement.

The trial is really not about the victim, it is about both accused. Sometimes the law sucks, IMHO.

All MOO.

 

[teamsundin]

I know it had to be said, but it must have felt harsh for Tim's family to hear when the judge admonished TL for asking the jury not to forget TIm in his closing statement.

The trial is really not about the victim, it is about both accused. Sometimes the law sucks, IMHO.

All MOO.

The thing is I don't think the crown is any more genuine than Smich's lawyer when they bring up Bosma as if they are looking for justice for him. The crown is looking for convictions and using an emotional appeal to work on the jury...I don't think it's any other reason. I don't think any side is really interested in the truth. They all just want to 'win'

 

[JuneBug67]

So you agree there is a 10 minute (give or take a few minutes) gap in MS's story, and you fill it in by adding a loop on Book Rd before reaching Super Sucker. That's fair.

Yes. It's always been clear that there is a 10 minute problem in the timeline. Loop via Book is one thought, potentially supported by Bullman testimony. That assumes Smich misremembered the route they took, which is possible for a variety of reasons. The SS timestamp being out/additional sightings being Tim's truck is of course another significant and quite credible possibility. But, the fact remains that every permutation has a compromise of some kind.

ETA I always felt that the 10 minute problem existed mostly before they arrived at the Bosma's if you accept the Crown/MS timeline that assumes SS timestamp is 3 hours out. So really the gap I filled was the 10 minutes of recon before the walk to Bosma's.

 

[canadiangirl]

Holy, judge is really being thorough. Sometimes, too much is just that, too much. Hope he doesn't confuse anyone.

The case has been ongoing since Feb 1. There's a lot of information to cover and consider and since the charge is going to take 2 days it's to be expected. Anything missed could be critical. Definitely important to be thorough, especially as the trial is coming to a close. I have a lot of respect for this judge from what we've heard about him and how he conducts the court and instructs the jury. Added to this his empathy towards the jurors, and how he addresses them. Exceptional IMO.

 

[MorningStar22]

Sounds like the judge wants a"not guily" verdict based on his instructions so far.

errrmmm how do you figure? I'm yawning along with the jurors, but it all seems completely impartial. Don't get where you are coming from on this comment.

 

[Sillybilly]

C'mon guys ... let's not accuse or insinuate that a judge is gearing his charge toward a certain outcome. The law is very specific as it relates to determining guilt or non-guilt of an accused.

The length and content of these instructions is typical of any judge's instructions to any jury.

:tyou:

 

[Kamille]

Court is now back in session.
by Adam Carter 1:31 PM

 

[Kamille]

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 4m4 minutes ago
Back from lunch. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 27s28 seconds ago
Jury is back and Justice Andrew Goodman is resuming his charge at the Tim #Bosma murder trial. We're now locked into the courtroom.

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 1m1 minute ago
Jury back-charge continues. going through expert testimony. @AM900CHML

 

[Kamille]

He's continuing by going through all of the expert witnesses we've heard.
by Adam Carter 1:33 PM

We're now going through the info from the electronic devices seized from Millard's home and Smich's home.
by Adam Carter 1:34 PM