AMAZING!! So much proof, so much testimony of so many critical decisions that were blatanly very bad decisions from BP. Yet they refuse to accept responsibility for this disaster because of their selfish idiotic decisions!
BP Oil Spill Approaching Gulf Coast
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I asked a friend who works for the EPA today about requiring relief wells upfront. Apparently, they're expensive and would raise the cost. My theory on that, honestly, is to let Americans pay European prices for gas. People will gripe to no end but most of them will still buy their gas.
The real bottleneck is at the refinery stage and they are sooo disgusting that it's pretty obvious our focus should have been on renewable energies
YEARS AGO.
The real bottleneck is at the refinery stage and they are sooo disgusting that it's pretty obvious our focus should have been on renewable energies
YEARS AGO.
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Animals caught in oil spill arrive on the Suncoast
Posted: May 31, 2010 07:46 AM MDT
EGMONT KEY - Some of the animals that have been caught in the oil spill are now calling the Suncoast their home.
Six birds were flown in from Louisiana and a team with the U.S. Fish and Wildlife released them at Egmont Key this weekend.
Officials say many Suncoast residents are lending a hand to help out both people and birds in the gulf coast.
"On any given day there is probably between five and a thousand people in city command trying to come up with the best solutions to deal with the spill handle the wildlife," says Dr. Sharon Taylor, U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service
http://www.mysuncoast.com/Global/story.asp?S=12569402
Posted: May 31, 2010 07:46 AM MDT
EGMONT KEY - Some of the animals that have been caught in the oil spill are now calling the Suncoast their home.
Six birds were flown in from Louisiana and a team with the U.S. Fish and Wildlife released them at Egmont Key this weekend.
Officials say many Suncoast residents are lending a hand to help out both people and birds in the gulf coast.
"On any given day there is probably between five and a thousand people in city command trying to come up with the best solutions to deal with the spill handle the wildlife," says Dr. Sharon Taylor, U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service
http://www.mysuncoast.com/Global/story.asp?S=12569402
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BP Prepared for Spill 10 Times Gulf Disaster, Permit Plans Say
May 31, 2010, 9:50 AM EDT
May 31 (Bloomberg) -- BP Plc said in permit applications for drilling in the Gulf of Mexico that it was prepared to handle an oil spill more than ten times larger than the one now spewing crude into the waters off the southern United States.
“Proper execution of the procedures detailed in this manual will help to limit environmental and ecological damage to sensitive areas as well as minimizing loss or damage to BP facilities in the event of a petroleum release,” the company said in its oil-spill response plan, filed with the U.S. Minerals Management Service in 2008.
The company listed as its worst-case scenario a blowout in an exploratory well 57 miles west of the disaster, in a valley on the seafloor known as Mississippi Canyon. It’s about 33 miles off the coast of Louisiana. Such a blowout could have spewed 250,000 barrels a day, according to the 582-page plan.
The representations show that BP overestimated its ability to control an oil spill in waters where it’s the biggest player in a Gulf energy extraction industry worth $52 billion a year, said Bob Deans, a spokesman with the Natural Resources Defense Council in Washington.
“BP has obviously overpromised and underdelivered,” Deans said. “They told us they had a plan that could deal with the consequences of a worst-case scenario. They don’t.”
http://www.businessweek.com/news/20...-10-times-gulf-disaster-permit-plans-say.html
May 31, 2010, 9:50 AM EDT
May 31 (Bloomberg) -- BP Plc said in permit applications for drilling in the Gulf of Mexico that it was prepared to handle an oil spill more than ten times larger than the one now spewing crude into the waters off the southern United States.
“Proper execution of the procedures detailed in this manual will help to limit environmental and ecological damage to sensitive areas as well as minimizing loss or damage to BP facilities in the event of a petroleum release,” the company said in its oil-spill response plan, filed with the U.S. Minerals Management Service in 2008.
The company listed as its worst-case scenario a blowout in an exploratory well 57 miles west of the disaster, in a valley on the seafloor known as Mississippi Canyon. It’s about 33 miles off the coast of Louisiana. Such a blowout could have spewed 250,000 barrels a day, according to the 582-page plan.
The representations show that BP overestimated its ability to control an oil spill in waters where it’s the biggest player in a Gulf energy extraction industry worth $52 billion a year, said Bob Deans, a spokesman with the Natural Resources Defense Council in Washington.
“BP has obviously overpromised and underdelivered,” Deans said. “They told us they had a plan that could deal with the consequences of a worst-case scenario. They don’t.”
http://www.businessweek.com/news/20...-10-times-gulf-disaster-permit-plans-say.html
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Factbox: Gulf oil spill impacts fisheries, wildlife, tourism
Here are some facts about effects of the worst ever U.S. oil spill, triggered by the April 20 explosion of the Deepwater Horizon rig:
THE SCALE OF THE CATASTROPHE
"This is probably the biggest environmental disaster we have ever faced in this country," top White House energy adviser Carol Browner said on Sunday.
"There could be oil coming up 'til August." Browner told CBS's "Face The Nation," "We are prepared for the worst."
Louisiana, the nearest state to BP's gushing undersea well that is 42 miles out in the Gulf of Mexico, has been the most impacted by the spill so far.
Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal said this week that more than 100 miles of Louisiana's 400-mile coast had so far been impacted by the spilled oil.
State officials have reported sheets of oil soiling wetlands and seeping into marine and bird nurseries, leaving a stain of sticky crude on cane that binds the marshes together.
Billy Nungesser, president of Plaquemines Parish, saw dying cane and "no life" in parts of Pass-a-Loutre wildlife refuge.
"Oil debris", in the form of tar balls and surface "sheen", has also been reported coming ashore since the April 20 accident in outlying parts of coastal Mississippi and Alabama.
In the week of May 17, Coast Guard officials found tar balls on some beaches in the Florida Keys, raising fears that the so-called Loop Current that runs from the Gulf of Mexico through the Florida Straits may have already brought oil from the spill far to the southeast. But laboratory tests subsequently showed the tar balls were not from the BP spill.
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE64T23R20100530
Here are some facts about effects of the worst ever U.S. oil spill, triggered by the April 20 explosion of the Deepwater Horizon rig:
THE SCALE OF THE CATASTROPHE
"This is probably the biggest environmental disaster we have ever faced in this country," top White House energy adviser Carol Browner said on Sunday.
"There could be oil coming up 'til August." Browner told CBS's "Face The Nation," "We are prepared for the worst."
Louisiana, the nearest state to BP's gushing undersea well that is 42 miles out in the Gulf of Mexico, has been the most impacted by the spill so far.
Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal said this week that more than 100 miles of Louisiana's 400-mile coast had so far been impacted by the spilled oil.
State officials have reported sheets of oil soiling wetlands and seeping into marine and bird nurseries, leaving a stain of sticky crude on cane that binds the marshes together.
Billy Nungesser, president of Plaquemines Parish, saw dying cane and "no life" in parts of Pass-a-Loutre wildlife refuge.
"Oil debris", in the form of tar balls and surface "sheen", has also been reported coming ashore since the April 20 accident in outlying parts of coastal Mississippi and Alabama.
In the week of May 17, Coast Guard officials found tar balls on some beaches in the Florida Keys, raising fears that the so-called Loop Current that runs from the Gulf of Mexico through the Florida Straits may have already brought oil from the spill far to the southeast. But laboratory tests subsequently showed the tar balls were not from the BP spill.
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE64T23R20100530
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Latest oil spill developmentsBy the CNN Wire StaffMay 31, 2010 2:28 a.m. EDT
(CNN) -- Here are the latest developments involving the BP oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico:
NEW:
Fisherman John Wutsell, Jr., has filed a temporary restraining order in federal court against oil company BP asking it to refrain from "altering, testing or destroying clothing or any other evidence or potential evidence" when workers, involved in the cleanup efforts, become ill. Graham MacEwen, a spokesman for BP, said he could not comment on the restraining order, or on allegations that BP confiscated clothing.
BP reported problems controlling the undersea well at the heart of the spill and won a delay in testing a critical piece of equipment in March, according to documents released Sunday. The company won a postponement from the New Orleans, Louisiana, district manager for the U.S. Interior Department's Minerals Management Service, the documents show.
The New York Times reported Sunday that BP documents indicated the company had "serious problems and safety concerns" with the rig's well casing and blowout preventer for months. Rep. Ed Markey, a Massachusetts Democrat who
leads an Energy and Commerce subcommittee, said he has seen documents that confirm the Times report
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/05/31/gulf.oil.spill.developments/
(CNN) -- Here are the latest developments involving the BP oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico:
NEW:
Fisherman John Wutsell, Jr., has filed a temporary restraining order in federal court against oil company BP asking it to refrain from "altering, testing or destroying clothing or any other evidence or potential evidence" when workers, involved in the cleanup efforts, become ill. Graham MacEwen, a spokesman for BP, said he could not comment on the restraining order, or on allegations that BP confiscated clothing.
BP reported problems controlling the undersea well at the heart of the spill and won a delay in testing a critical piece of equipment in March, according to documents released Sunday. The company won a postponement from the New Orleans, Louisiana, district manager for the U.S. Interior Department's Minerals Management Service, the documents show.
The New York Times reported Sunday that BP documents indicated the company had "serious problems and safety concerns" with the rig's well casing and blowout preventer for months. Rep. Ed Markey, a Massachusetts Democrat who
leads an Energy and Commerce subcommittee, said he has seen documents that confirm the Times report
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/05/31/gulf.oil.spill.developments/
Even "til August" assumes the relief well is going to be finished on schedule and actually work. So even "til August" is not the worst case scenario right now.
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I'm just so saddened and :furious: about the headlines today. Now, they (BP) aren't going to do ANYTHING until the relief well is finished in August? huh? Why?
What happened to Kevin Costner's machines? I heard when Baldwin was down there last week - he said that they (don't know if BP and/or govt) had Costner mired down in "red tape". huh? Baldwin also said Costner's machines work.
Also, where are the "sifting" ships? The "filter" ships? Why can't they get at least some of those going? At least TRYING is better than doing NOTHING?
It was almost laughable when LA talked about building "berms" in front of the barrier islands and the gov't said - "we have to do an environmental impact study first!" huh?
If I was Jindle - I would "thumb my nose at BP and the gov't" and authorize the work and get it started.
August, ppffftttt.............
What happened to Kevin Costner's machines? I heard when Baldwin was down there last week - he said that they (don't know if BP and/or govt) had Costner mired down in "red tape". huh? Baldwin also said Costner's machines work.
Also, where are the "sifting" ships? The "filter" ships? Why can't they get at least some of those going? At least TRYING is better than doing NOTHING?
It was almost laughable when LA talked about building "berms" in front of the barrier islands and the gov't said - "we have to do an environmental impact study first!" huh?
If I was Jindle - I would "thumb my nose at BP and the gov't" and authorize the work and get it started.
August, ppffftttt.............
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Fran thank you so much for this article! Since I have only been hearing bits & pieces of info, I cannot tell you how valuable this article is to me! Ugh so many mistakes/choices to save time & money...there are no words to even describe the level of frustration, anger, and sorrow that we are feeling!
[video=youtube;iw4-HQeduu8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iw4-HQeduu8[/video]
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Wow, pretty powerful video and recording. I couldn't watch without crying.
I live at the beach too and I know how I would feel if I saw this happening off our coast.
I'm so sorry for what you're going through. Let's pray that everyone gets their act together this next week and FIX IT!
{{hugs}}
Sincerely,
fran
Wow, pretty powerful video and recording. I couldn't watch without crying.
I live at the beach too and I know how I would feel if I saw this happening off our coast.
I'm so sorry for what you're going through. Let's pray that everyone gets their act together this next week and FIX IT!
{{hugs}}
Sincerely,
fran
If something similar had happened in NYC or the suburbs of D.C. or off the coast of NJ, I think a lot more would be being done to stop it. The Gulf Coast is treated like the ugly step-child who lives with the other parent, it seems like to me.
I know I shouldn't get political on this thread but something popped into my mind while reading this.
Halliburton is related to Dick Cheney.
Dick Cheney refused to allow some government agency or committee to see his records with oil company executives when he was vice president.
Whether that is related or not, it's time to get rid of the opacity that has blinded the American people to the inner workings of their government.
Halliburton is related to Dick Cheney.
Dick Cheney refused to allow some government agency or committee to see his records with oil company executives when he was vice president.
Whether that is related or not, it's time to get rid of the opacity that has blinded the American people to the inner workings of their government.
I hate to say it,but I think you are right. Imagine if this were near Cape Cod,the Hamptons etc..I think if they couldn't stop it there certainly would have been alot more done to prevent environmental damage.
Every last one of these politicians arew in up to their eyeballs,check this out.
http://thenextright.com/ironman/bps-strange-democrat-bedfellows
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From what I understand criminal charges are being sought against all three companies BP, Transocean and Halliburton, I bet Dick Cheney will come out smelling like a rose.
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President Obama said Tuesday that he has directed federal authorities to triple manpower in the Gulf of Mexico in places where oil from a ruptured underwater pipe has hit shore or is close to impact.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/06/01/gulf.oil.spill/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/06/01/gulf.oil.spill/index.html
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Louisiana's state bird, the brown pelican, under assault from spreading oil, biologists say
By Bob Marshall, The Times-Picayune
June 01, 2010, 5:48PM
Chicks are born without feathers, but quickly develop down. They are fed regurgitated fish from their parents sack-like bills, and within 62 to 75 days are fledged. But the BP oil poses an unprecedented lethal threat to the this next generation of pelicans from egg to fledgling, and beyond, biologists said, because waves of poison will be washing toward these nesting sites for months to come.
Matthew Hinton/The Times-Picayune
Egg shells are porous to allow embryos to exchange carbon dioxide for oxygen through the shell, so if enough pores are blocked by oil, suffocation could result. These eggs were photographed May 23 in Barataria Bay.The worries start with the oil smudges already seen on many eggs, carried there by parents after swimming in the oiled waters of Barataria Bay.
Egg shells are porous to allow embryos to exchange carbon dioxide for oxygen through the shell, so if enough pores are blocked, suffocation could result. Another concern is that the oil's toxic components - called volatile organic compounds, or VOCs - could pass through the shell, bringing certain death to the embryo inside.
"It all depends on the composition of those smudges," Carloss said. "If it's been heavily weathered and most of the VOCs are dissipated, then that wouldn't be a concern.
"We'd like to know, but going out there to inspect eggs could do more harm than good, because the nests could be abandoned. So we just have to wait."
After hatching, chicks face skin and internal injury from oil passed to them by their parents' feathers and the food being supplied, biologists said. The heavy oil residue picked up by parents foraging in the bay can cause lesions on the skin of featherless chicks. And like adult birds, oil residue can be ingested by chicks trying to clean contaminated feathers. Remnants of VOCs can quickly injure internal organs, including kidneys and liver.
Any of these things can happen to chicks and young birds while still on the nests, but they would be almost unavoidable when the young birds begin wading in the circle of oil sludge around their nesting islands.http://www.nola.com/news/gulf-oil-spill/index.ssf/2010/06/brown_pelicans_under_assault_f.html
By Bob Marshall, The Times-Picayune
June 01, 2010, 5:48PM
Chicks are born without feathers, but quickly develop down. They are fed regurgitated fish from their parents sack-like bills, and within 62 to 75 days are fledged. But the BP oil poses an unprecedented lethal threat to the this next generation of pelicans from egg to fledgling, and beyond, biologists said, because waves of poison will be washing toward these nesting sites for months to come.
Egg shells are porous to allow embryos to exchange carbon dioxide for oxygen through the shell, so if enough pores are blocked by oil, suffocation could result. These eggs were photographed May 23 in Barataria Bay.The worries start with the oil smudges already seen on many eggs, carried there by parents after swimming in the oiled waters of Barataria Bay.
Egg shells are porous to allow embryos to exchange carbon dioxide for oxygen through the shell, so if enough pores are blocked, suffocation could result. Another concern is that the oil's toxic components - called volatile organic compounds, or VOCs - could pass through the shell, bringing certain death to the embryo inside.
"It all depends on the composition of those smudges," Carloss said. "If it's been heavily weathered and most of the VOCs are dissipated, then that wouldn't be a concern.
"We'd like to know, but going out there to inspect eggs could do more harm than good, because the nests could be abandoned. So we just have to wait."
After hatching, chicks face skin and internal injury from oil passed to them by their parents' feathers and the food being supplied, biologists said. The heavy oil residue picked up by parents foraging in the bay can cause lesions on the skin of featherless chicks. And like adult birds, oil residue can be ingested by chicks trying to clean contaminated feathers. Remnants of VOCs can quickly injure internal organs, including kidneys and liver.
Any of these things can happen to chicks and young birds while still on the nests, but they would be almost unavoidable when the young birds begin wading in the circle of oil sludge around their nesting islands.http://www.nola.com/news/gulf-oil-spill/index.ssf/2010/06/brown_pelicans_under_assault_f.html
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Feds conducting criminal, civil probe of oil spill, U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder says
By David Hammer, The Times-Picayune
June 01, 2010, 8:45PM
In the face of stiffening criticism of its management of the oil crisis in the Gulf of Mexico, the Obama administration took the unusual step Tuesday of acknowledging a sweeping federal investigation into the cause of the spill.
Attorney General Eric Holder said the FBI and lawyers from his office's civil and environmental divisions have been in Louisiana investigating for weeks, and he said they have reason to believe criminal charges may be warranted. He also said his investigators are building a case for levying civil penalties against those responsible for the spill, but he declined to name any specific targets or subjects of the probe.
http://www.nola.com/news/gulf-oil-spill/index.ssf/2010/06/us_attorney_general_eric_holde_1.html
Hmm...we'll see.
By David Hammer, The Times-Picayune
June 01, 2010, 8:45PM
In the face of stiffening criticism of its management of the oil crisis in the Gulf of Mexico, the Obama administration took the unusual step Tuesday of acknowledging a sweeping federal investigation into the cause of the spill.
Attorney General Eric Holder said the FBI and lawyers from his office's civil and environmental divisions have been in Louisiana investigating for weeks, and he said they have reason to believe criminal charges may be warranted. He also said his investigators are building a case for levying civil penalties against those responsible for the spill, but he declined to name any specific targets or subjects of the probe.
http://www.nola.com/news/gulf-oil-spill/index.ssf/2010/06/us_attorney_general_eric_holde_1.html
Hmm...we'll see.
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Oil from Gulf spill could hit Florida beaches Wednesday
By The Associated Press June 01, 2010, 5:20PM
Michael DeMocker / The Times-Picayune
Tar balls and oil from a massive oil slick could hit Florida's pristine white beaches as soon as Wednesday.
Escambia County officials said late Tuesday an oil sheen was confirmed just 9.5 miles off of Pensacola Beach. Officials have begun laying out boom and making other plans for the oil's arrival.
http://www.nola.com/news/gulf-oil-spill/index.ssf/2010/06/oil_from_gulf_spill_could_hit.html
Maybe we'll finally see some serious action taken to stop this catastrophe. I mean no malice to the good people of Florida. I'm sorry that you will be among the victims of this crime, but the truth is the truth.
By The Associated Press June 01, 2010, 5:20PM
Tar balls and oil from a massive oil slick could hit Florida's pristine white beaches as soon as Wednesday.
Escambia County officials said late Tuesday an oil sheen was confirmed just 9.5 miles off of Pensacola Beach. Officials have begun laying out boom and making other plans for the oil's arrival.
http://www.nola.com/news/gulf-oil-spill/index.ssf/2010/06/oil_from_gulf_spill_could_hit.html
Maybe we'll finally see some serious action taken to stop this catastrophe. I mean no malice to the good people of Florida. I'm sorry that you will be among the victims of this crime, but the truth is the truth.
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Oil from Gulf spill could hit Florida beaches Wednesday
By The Associated Press June 01, 2010, 5:20PM
Michael DeMocker / The Times-Picayune
Tar balls and oil from a massive oil slick could hit Florida's pristine white beaches as soon as Wednesday.
Escambia County officials said late Tuesday an oil sheen was confirmed just 9.5 miles off of Pensacola Beach. Officials have begun laying out boom and making other plans for the oil's arrival.
http://www.nola.com/news/gulf-oil-spill/index.ssf/2010/06/oil_from_gulf_spill_could_hit.html
Maybe we'll finally see some serious action taken to stop this catastrophe. I mean no malice to the good people of Florida. I'm sorry that you will be among the victims of this crime, but the truth is the truth.
Sad; just beyond sad............we went to Pensacola for a dysfunctional family vacation when I was 4 months pregnant with our son and told hubby JUST TODAY; I want to take Jake back there because it is so beautiful. We stayed at the Porto Fino (very very HIGH class). SOB.........was hoping to take him in early July. This is just beyond sickening!
How can oboma say the White House is "on top of things" yet say he didn't know that the next step could actually worsen the current flow of oil be spilled into the gulf if it doesn't work. :furious:
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