Brainstorming Ron's flurry of phone calls

[butterfly1978]

Tommy lived on the street behind Misty and Ron, through the woods he was not their neighbor.

 

[Whisperer]

Interesting info from snopes on cell phone pings, can't copy from the page but it's worth a read.

http://www.snopes.com/crime/prevent/cellping.asp

Peli...you are correct, that was a good read. Thank You

 

[Whisperer]

I believe the brother lived close but not next door and it was definately neighbors and we had a couple on here sharing with us...

Ron had two neighbors, one on each side of him. One of the them were the Poppens and the other were the W's.

The Poppens both commented on what they saw and heard, but neither mentioned the children playing outside. One spoke about the Altima and the other spoke about the call in the morning made by misty.

The "W" neighbor has not said anything to the press to my kge. It was rumored they weren't home that night.

 

[Whisperer]

Hi,
I have been following this case since the beginning so NO I cannot remember the link to where it states this BUT there are SEVERAL threads about it and there as also a thread with locals that lived close to them and knew Ron and his kids etc and Misty too...

Those people you are referencing lived on Buchanan and Monroe where rc formerly resided. He had moved from Buchanan in November. They were not within earshot as their were woods between them now. He moved to a more remote area of the development on to Green Lane.

 

[Peliman]

Thanks for the info. I read it but still have a question. Even if you have no service (like no bars) on your phone it will still ping as long as it's turned on?

Hi mew, I've heard it said a number of times that a cell phone without service can dial 911 with a charged battery. The 911 call will go to the nearest cell tower of any carrier.

Can the phone ping a tower with no bars? I'm going to say no but I'm not an expert at it.

 

[Maryann123]

I believe the brother lived close but not next door and it was definately neighbors and we had a couple on here sharing with us...[/QUOTE

]Ronald Cummings lived in a trailer with his girlfriend, Misty, a year ago when the girl disappeared. Deputies made the trailer off-limits for weeks, and her family never moved back into the home in the Satsuma neighborhood near Highway 17.

Misty's brother, Tommy Croslin, and her father, Hank Croslin Sr., lived about 100 yards away in the same neighborhood.

This is the article where the neighbors are glad when the last Croslin moves out of the neighborhood.

 

[BlOnDe_GuRrL]

I just heard about this today too. I wonder why he was calling and why she wasn't answering!

 

[elle1919]

I just heard about this today too. I wonder why he was calling and why she wasn't answering!

This is another thing that throws a little wrench into the theory that these two are together on a cover up. Why wouldn't she answer?

If they were involved in the whole thing together there would have been no fight and no ignoring his phone calls to the point of him resorting to calling her brothers home to check if she was there. Doesn't make sense. So I am all for working out a theory and etc etc ....but I have yet to hear anyone explain why Misty was ignoring RC that night and the bigger question of why she called her brother Timmy Croslin first that night after she finally remembered that she had a phone and how to use it.

 

[Emeralgem]

I just heard about this today too. I wonder why he was calling and why she wasn't answering!

I know here I go again, but my delusional self is telling me someone told her to turn that phone off...I'm thinking she wasn't in the frame of mind to grasp they were perhaps trying to set her up to be the Fall Girl...
I have never seen so many diabolical twists in a case, but then again this is the ONLY case I have ever followed this closely...JMO

 

[elle1919]

I know here I go again, but my delusional self is telling me someone told her to turn that phone off...I'm thinking she wasn't in the frame of mind to grasp they were perhaps trying to set her up to be the Fall Girl...
I have never seen so many diabolical twists in a case, but then again this is the ONLY case I have ever followed this closely...JMO

If this were the case Misty would have barked to Law Enforcement that RC or whoever.....told her to turn off her phone that night, in my opinion. Misty is giving up people right and left, people who say they love her. If she had any goods whatsoever on Ronald or TN or GGS, she would be telling. Especially if they were trying to set her up as the fall girl. No way do I believe that. The Misty Croslin in those undercover video's is the real Misty Croslin in my opinion and she will be no-one's fall girl.

She wasn't speaking too kindly of RC and his family when she mentions how they all do pills...no....she is covering her own butt, and that is in my dim, uneducated opinion.....lol

 

[waltzingmatilda]

Here is an interesting article on LEA's tracking cell phones and the process required to do so. It is short but eye opening.....

http://www.newsweek.com/id/233916

wm

 

[Skully]

This is another thing that throws a little wrench into the theory that these two are together on a cover up. Why wouldn't she answer?

If they were involved in the whole thing together there would have been no fight and no ignoring his phone calls to the point of him resorting to calling her brothers home to check if she was there. Doesn't make sense. So I am all for working out a theory and etc etc ....but I have yet to hear anyone explain why Misty was ignoring RC that night and the bigger question of why she called her brother Timmy Croslin first that night after she finally remembered that she had a phone and how to use it.

The only way this would make sense is if They were establishing an alibi. Ron's phone is near PDM, and Misty has her's turned off. She can be anywhere or it is sitting at the MH. By it being turned off she can say, I was sleeping and didn't want to hear the phone ringing or what ever. Calling Tommy, he knows to check on Misty without being asked and that would get him over there, once there, he was to think she was sleeping, lights out, no one answers the door. But Tommy thinks she is out, not sleeping, so that back fired on them. Also, just because a phone pings somewhere, doesn't mean the owner is with it. JMO, I don't want to upset you, this is just a thought.....

 

[Emeralgem]

The only way this would make sense is if They were establishing an alibi. Ron's phone is near PDM, and Misty has her's turned off. She can be anywhere or it is sitting at the MH. By it being turned off she can say, I was sleeping and didn't want to hear the phone ringing or what ever. Calling Tommy, he knows to check on Misty without being asked and that would get him over there, once there, he was to think she was sleeping, lights out, no one answers the door. But Tommy thinks she is out, not sleeping, so that back fired on them. Also, just because a phone pings somewhere, doesn't mean the owner is with it. JMO, I don't want to upset you, this is just a thought.....

Bern, I can relate to that theory, and it did backfire on them, but I'm not ruling out he and his family weren't making plans to throw both she and Tommy under the bus...JMO

 

[4Jacy]

But maybe the phone calls that night etc are related to his drug business. So we should get to see them. Because I want to see them. Because I am curious.

I know there is no need for us to see them. I just want to.

(You can't see that there is a smile behind my posts so I thought I better say it I'm kidding, but not really. I do wanna see them)

Don't you go stamping your feet now. You are too funny. (And I know the frustration you feel)

 

[dodie20]

This is another thing that throws a little wrench into the theory that these two are together on a cover up. Why wouldn't she answer?

If they were involved in the whole thing together there would have been no fight and no ignoring his phone calls to the point of him resorting to calling her brothers home to check if she was there. Doesn't make sense. So I am all for working out a theory and etc etc ....but I have yet to hear anyone explain why Misty was ignoring RC that night and the bigger question of why she called her brother Timmy Croslin first that night after she finally remembered that she had a phone and how to use it.

maybe Ron told her to turn the phone off, to avoid pings & missed calls. Also, we don't know what times these calls were coming in. Maybe they were made before anything haappened. Maybe her not answering made him mad enough to leave work & check on her & THEN whatever happened, happened, & then the cover-up. I've always been very suspicious of his job's reaction to this. They've been very tight lipped & unsympathetic towards Ron. As far as I know, the other employees haven't spoken up in his defense, & then PDM unceremoniously, but very legally, fired him. & if I'm not mistaken, they even hired extra security after the firing. Where were the donations, the benefits, the compassion for a grieving father? No, I take their reaction as a very bad sign for Ron. They either know or highly suspect something incriminating, so they immediately distanced themselves from him-they got out while the gettin' was good.

 

[dodie20]

& why didn't Ron pursue a lawsuit against PDM? I'm sure he could've used his job back, the back pay, or a settlement. As a matter of principle, why didn't he argue that being fired was a hardship & that it sullied his reputation? maybe he was scared of PDM's, testimony?

 

[Skully]

& why didn't Ron pursue a lawsuit against PDM? I'm sure he could've used his job back, the back pay, or a settlement. As a matter of principle, why didn't he argue that being fired was a hardship & that it sullied his reputation? maybe he was scared of PDM's, testimony?

FL is a "right to work State", that means they can fire you without cause. He was new and may have been on 90 day probation. He didn't return and they don't have anything in writing from him giving them a clue as to when he was coming back. I don't think he had a case. JMO I am not a lawyer, but if there was one, you can bet your bottom dollar a lawyer would have jumped on it.

 

[TXangel]

Hi mew, I've heard it said a number of times that a cell phone without service can dial 911 with a charged battery. The 911 call will go to the nearest cell tower of any carrier.

Can the phone ping a tower with no bars? I'm going to say no but I'm not an expert at it.

This is something that *may* have to do with your statement or not. I'm by no means a cellular phone expert, lol. But several years ago during some talk about 911 calls and cell phones, I'd heard the most important thing was to let them know your location first because a call made from a cell phone will go through the first available cellular exchange, which may not necessarily be the closest. This was several years ago, I'm thinking before the whole E911 thing.

It also made me think of the days of the hurricanes when everyone was trying to use their cell phone and you couldn't get through because there were too many people trying to use too few towers. The service would try several in the area before telling you your call couldn't go through. So when he made a call would that mean that because that was the tower it pinged off of , it was the tower he was closest too? Or that it was the one that happened to "pick up" the call he was making/trying to make at the time? Weren't they both close enough so that really it could have been either one would have worked either time?

 

[dodie20]

FL is a "right to work State", that means they can fire you without cause. He was new and may have been on 90 day probation. He didn't return and they don't have anything in writing from him giving them a clue as to when he was coming back. I don't think he had a case. JMO I am not a lawyer, but if there was one, you can bet your bottom dollar a lawyer would have jumped on it.

You're right...but what company isn't concerned about public relations? Who would want to be seen as dumping all over a grieving dad, who still had a family to supprt? My feelings are that if Ron had pursued it, he would've been given a settlement-unless he had something to hide. The fact that PDM DID dump him, tells me that as far as public relations went, they decided they were better off breaking ties with him, than showing support.They very obviously, did NOT want to be associated with him.

 

[Donjeta]

Didn't Kimball and Snyder say they referred him to another lawyer who had experience in unlawful dismissal cases or something? I haven't heard that anything ever came of it. Wonder if he ever contacted another lawyer or if it was just PR.