Brandon Scott Lavergne - Guilty Plea and LWOP

[Deleted member 39678]

Yes. It's determined by blood count. If he kept anything from his truck that night before burning it, or any clothes he had on, it could be determined if hair or blood was from someone who was deceased at the time. He went home with her after she was dead, I'm sure something of his still contained her blood after she was deceased.

Forensics have come a long way

BBM
Why would your blood count change after you die?

A major portion of the complete blood count is the measure of the concentration of white blood cells, red blood cells, and platelets in the blood.

Do certain components of blood change or disappear when let from a dead person versus a live person?

http://www.medicinenet.com/complete_blood_count/article.htm

 

[danzn16]

BBM
Why would your blood count change after you die?


Do certain components of blood change or disappear when let from a dead person versus a live person?

http://www.medicinenet.com/complete_blood_count/article.htm

Yes I would love to have some article or website to read up on this as well if you have one! I'm in the medical field and don't understand why this would change. However we work on live people. Don't really have to determine if someone is alive or not by their blood normally!

And if it was by blood count then how can you tell if it was a healthy person versus someone that had an infection (high WBC count) or bled before death (low RBC) or had a blood disorder (low or high platelet) or any combination or these abnormalities as in cancer patients or blood disorders?

 

[bessie]

Shame on the Jefferson Parish Sheriff deputy that processed the incident report at Oschner Hospital; he should have connected the pieces as a result of his training and experience! This deputy met with a person with multiple stab wounds on May 19th, that drove a white truck identical to the surveillance photos, and no doubt the incident report had BSL's address showing he was from the same area as a missing college student earlier THAT day. For a victim to be so vague about details of where the crime occurred, to stop responding to questions and become "less cooperative" ... I would think this incident would stand out in the memory of a sheriff deputy! JMO :waitasec:
Was GPS tracking used in this investigation by the sheriff's dept to figure out where this incident may have occurred?

TV media showed surveillance photos & requested info over and over asking the public for info on a "white truck" with surveillance photos shown on TV, missing MICKEY posters plastered EVERYWHERE detailing dates/times and other info and this did not raise RED Flags with this deputy? We saw media reports in Houston, TX; no doubt Jefferson Parish received the same broadcasts.

Per KATC published: 07/13/2012 05:19 PM by Erin Steuber

May 19: The day Mickey Shunick went missing
KATC is working to fill in gaps in the timeline the day Mickey Shunick disappeared. Lets go back to the beginning of what we know.... whereabouts were unknown until we got our hands on a police report from Jefferson Parish. According to the report, on May 19, 21 hours after Mickey disappeared, Jefferson Parish Sheriffs deputies interviewed Lavergne at Oschner Hospital. Lavergne told them a stranger stabbed him earlier that day at a gas station, but he couldn't say where. He was stabbed in the chest, back, neck, and hand. Deputies say the more questions they asked, Lavergne became less and less cooperative. Lavergne was released from the hospital.

I think that's a little unfair. At the time the deputy questioned BSL at Ochsner, MS had not been reported missing, and it wasn't until a week or so later that the information about a white truck was released. I'm sure the deputy asked him what kind of vehicle he drove, but he had no reason to see it. BSL was an ER patient, so it's not like the deputy could say, "let's take a walk over to your car." The deputy obviously had suspicions, and he might even have driven around the parking lot to locate the truck. Without a report of a crime involving a white truck and a possible stabbing, there's not much more he could've done at the time. Do we know that the deputy didn't eventually make a connection and report the interview?

I'd like to know exactly what information BSL gave the LEO's who questioned him at Ochsner. He told them his wallet and driver's license were stolen. But, in the report, a driver's license number is blacked out (top of pdf p.3). Did he provide the correct number? If he did, then what was the purpose of reporting it stolen? He didn't report any credit cards being stolen, so saying the DL was stolen seemed to be deliberate. Some have speculated the purpose was to hide the fact that he was a RSO, but they would have learned that, anyway, if they ran a report on the number. So I'm really curious if he gave them his actual DL number. The hospital would have required identification. Did he give them an insurance card? Credit card? Those are questions I'd like answered. It's never been clear to me exactly how LE learned about the Ochsner ER visit.

 

[B4igo2it]

I feel the BSL as a victim case should have been further investigated as there were many red flags, especially with him being "uncooperative" AND
He had multiple stab wounds! If this happened at a gas station, an ambulance would have been called, there would have been witnesses ... KWIM? NOPD investigators questioned him for 2+ hours (per BSL) and then a deputy was called in. The police dept, sheriff's dept and hospital security received reports. A license check should have shown he was a RSO (that is if he told them his correct name). Did he have insurance? How was this bill paid and in who's name? He had to show ID, and if his license was stolen, proof of insurance and/or VIN would have worked. IDK, maybe LE was too busy to deal with him and didn't really care about what happened to him? Esp. since he is an out of towner. Maybe they see this sort of situation often, IDK. Yes, It was too early for a connection to be made with Mickey, during the ER visit.

But, I would think the hospital and both agencies rec'd a BOLO notification of a missing college girl within a day or so of this incident ... and I am surprised it didn't raise any red flags for anyone - New Orleans is not that far from Lafayette. JMO

 

[GulfCoastKAT]

I find it unfair to say that LEOs should have made the connection between BSL in the ER on Saturday night and missing Mickey Shunick. Even after her story was plastered everywhere. How could they possibly put the two together? In the end, would it have changed anything if they had? BSL had already murdered Mickey by the time he arrived at the hospital.

 

[Ihavenoname]

Has it been proven that he was in NO in his white Z71? Didn't he also have a Dodge Stealth at his house?

 

[justwundering]

Has it been proven that he was in NO in his white Z71? Didn't he also have a Dodge Stealth at his house?

He ditched the bicycle at WB on his way to NO. Couldn't have carried that in the Stealth.

 

[Ihavenoname]

He ditched the bicycle at WB on his way to NO. Couldn't have carried that in the Stealth.

With a back wheel that was bent, it could of fit in the trunk and if it was a hatch back model, he could of lower the back seat and it would of fit. Remember no one knew she was missing and the bike wasn't on the radar yet, and he didn't have to worry about it sticking out of his vehicle.

 

[KinseyWannabe]

With a back wheel that was bent, it could of fit in the trunk and if it was a hatch back model, he could of lower the back seat and it would of fit. Remember no one knew she was missing and the bike wasn't on the radar yet, and he didn't have to worry about it sticking out of his vehicle.

Agree. Plus, unclamping the front wheel of a bike's usually a simple matter. That's how I carried mine in the back seat of a car.

Thanks.:bicycle:

 

[justwundering]

Agree. Plus, unclamping the front wheel of a bike's usually a simple matter. That's how I carried mine in the back seat of a car.

Thanks.:bicycle:

LOL....O.K.........I stand corrected.....(though I think I'm probably right. The bike was already in the truck. With a partially severed finger, it might have been a little more difficult to fit a bike in the backseat....)

 

[Ihavenoname]

LOL....O.K.........I stand corrected.....(though I think I'm probably right. The bike was already in the truck. With a partially severed finger, it might have been a little more difficult to fit a bike in the backseat....)

How do we know that BSL told the truth about the finger? Maybe he got his finger caught on the sprocket or some sharp edge of the bike when he threw it. Remember the bike suppose was to have been hit by a truck as per BSL.

 

[Jkg005]

How do we know that BSL told the truth about the finger? Maybe he got his finger caught on the sprocket or some sharp edge of the bike when he threw it. Remember the bike suppose was to have been hit by a truck as per BSL.

IMO there were a couple things in his plea that had been thoughts, ideas from here and TD. Do I believe his details of how it went down? NOPE! He is a great story teller with a bit of truth weaved in as another poster said. As far as the stolen wallet with his DL in it. Definately didn't believe. I work with several men, have two brothers, two sons, a husband and son-in-law that I had pull their wallets. Not one of them had just their drivers license in it! I don't believe even BSL knows what the truth is.

 

[kkdj]

I thought Mickey was in the news by 6:30 pm and he went to the hospital after 9.
So unless I'm not remembering correctly, LE and hospitals should have been notified of her missing by the time BSL went to ER.

 

[justwundering]

How do we know that BSL told the truth about the finger? Maybe he got his finger caught on the sprocket or some sharp edge of the bike when he threw it. Remember the bike suppose was to have been hit by a truck as per BSL.

He MAY have cut it shaving.....one thing is for sure, the finger was cut, since doctors at Opelousas General Hospital performed surgery on the finger the day after he returned from NO. Does it matter whether he was driving a DWT or a Stealth when he went to NO? Someone on this forum reported traveling pass BSLs house after his arrest and noticing someone working on a red car in the back. BSL was known for buying cars, fixing them up then selling them. It was assumed at the time, that someone was trying to get the vehicle in running order. (BTW, LE described the bicycle as having a bent rear wheel, consistent with being hit from behind).

 

[Ihavenoname]

He MAY have cut it shaving.....one thing is for sure, the finger was cut, since doctors at Opelousas General Hospital performed surgery on the finger the day after he returned from NO. Does it matter whether he was driving a DWT or a Stealth when he went to NO? Someone on this forum reported traveling pass BSLs house after his arrest and noticing someone working on a red car in the back. BSL was known for buying cars, fixing them up then selling them. It was assumed at the time, that someone was trying to get the vehicle in running order. (BTW, LE described the bicycle as having a bent rear wheel, consistent with being hit from behind).

Well whoop tee do, if he cut himself shaving. The reason I brought up him taking the Stealth to NO, was because some were trying to blame the LE in NO for not seeing that he was in a white Z71, so yes it does matter if he was in his truck or not.
What does this " (BTW, LE described the bicycle as having a bent rear wheel, consistent with being hit from behind)" have to do with what I was trying to explain, about a bike fitting in a car?

 

[K.jill]

Did we ever learn anything about the bike's handle bars being removed? Since he was injured it would seem they would be even more difficult for him to remove.

 

[justwundering]

Well whoop tee do, if he cut himself shaving. The reason I brought up him taking the Stealth to NO, was because some were trying to blame the LE in NO for not seeing that he was in a white Z71, so yes it does matter if he was in his truck or not.
What does this " (BTW, LE described the bicycle as having a bent rear wheel, consistent with being hit from behind)" have to do with what I was trying to explain, about a bike fitting in a car?

Why would you bring up cutting his hand on the sprocket? LE placed BSL at WB either through traffic cameras or from his Onstar. Either would have been identification of DWT. Why would NOPD be expected to determine what he was driving? The officer apparently did everything by the book. He interrogated BSL, when BSL became uncooperative the officer advised his supervisor. Apparently his supervisor told him to take a make report. They had nothing to hold him on. The Shunicks filed missing persons report only 3-4 hours previous. LE didn't even have video of DWT at that time.

To understand my 'BTW' sentence, read your last sentence in post 1911.

 

[CajunA]

With a back wheel that was bent, it could of fit in the trunk and if it was a hatch back model, he could of lower the back seat and it would of fit. Remember no one knew she was missing and the bike wasn't on the radar yet, and he didn't have to worry about it sticking out of his vehicle.

This makes you wonder...I don't think he'd be that stupid to risk driving in a vehicle that he just had knife fights,and shot someone in the head inside of. But then again, how would the LE be able to say that they placed him around WB area if he wasn't in his truck? Unless they got this info through his cell phone! Technology now a days has spying eyes. Pretty amazing I think.

 

[Ihavenoname]

I know they got a subpena for OnStar records but if there would of had any, they could of known that he went to that burial place twice. They sure would of had search such an isolated area if they had such records.

 

[justwundering]

Did we ever learn anything about the bike's handle bars being removed? Since he was injured it would seem they would be even more difficult for him to remove.

I may have missed the handlebar issue...were there reports that they were removed? I remember something about the gold handlebar grips, but I don't recall in regards to what. I assume to remove the handlebars he would have to also remove the handbrakes. Guess I can't imagine why BSL would remove them. Now, one report I got was that the fisherman who found the bike picked it up and returned to his camp with it intending to scrap it.. Once there, some family member advised him that it might be Mickey's bike. They advised SMSO who contacted LPD. I have not seen this verified or reported by LE.....